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Todd McCarthy for The Hollywood Reporter posted:In the annals of sequels, Dawn is to Rise of the Planet of the Apes what The Empire Strikes Back was to Star Wars — it’s that much better. A mainstream blockbuster with a lot on its mind, director Matt Reeves' synthesis of brains and brawn kicks it over the goalposts and out of the stadium.
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Bolocko posted:Saw this on Monday, and of the critic reviews I've read this bit from McCarthy rings particularly true. The film is incredible, the best of the summer and easily a contender for best of the year. It's not just a remarkable entry in the series, but an outstanding achievement of cinema. Yeah, I've seen nothing but incredibly high praise for this. I absolutely loved Rise, so I'm beyond excited for this.
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Jul 3, 2014 02:21
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I caught what I think is the newest trailer today when the ape kills the two people on guard duty and it loving chilled me to the bone. It's just done so nonchalantly and reminded me of something I saw on the news where *spoiling cause of context* a robber walks into a store and just loving shoots the cashier immediately. I cannot wait - this movie is going to hit hard I think.
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Jul 3, 2014 04:58
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Vintersorg posted:I caught what I think is the newest trailer today when the ape kills the two people on guard duty and it loving chilled me to the bone. It's just done so nonchalantly and reminded me of something I saw on the news where *spoiling cause of context* a robber walks into a store and just loving shoots the cashier immediately. I saw the trailer too a few days ago and yeah that part is really chilling. But I think it's really clear the ape doesn't shoot the other guard-dude, they just recycle the same gunfire soundbite and cut to black. There are other parts in the trailers as well where I think they are trying to make it seem something "actiony" or dramatic happens, when it clearly doesn't. Still, the movie is looking really good and you can tell it's going to be more than your average summer blockbuster.
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Jul 3, 2014 10:47
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I think this might be my most anticipated movie of the Summer!
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Jul 3, 2014 20:14
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Touching on the inconsistencies, I've learned to chalk it up to ever-shortening attention spans. This is a perfect example, but one of the better ones. In the original(s), a spaceship mistakenly travels some thousands of years into the future where apes outlived humans and evolved naturally over time. In Burton's "Shyamalaned" reboot, one man is thrust through time during a rescue while the rest of his ship crashed (both at the whim of a cosmic storm) with surviving crew and space-chimps. Ape evolution takes place between the crash and arrival on a planet that is not Earth. In Rise, chimp intelligence is augmented for research and goes viral, accelerating both ape dominance and human eradication. The only bad one? Burton's. Spare yourself.
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Jul 4, 2014 11:43
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The Vice-affiliated YouTube channel Motherboard has teamed up with 20th Century Fox to produce this web series of three shorts fit within the ten years between 'Rise' and 'Dawn'. The shorts are set at the one, five, and ten-year intervals. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTlJK3kwZIbQJn1L-Z0oTqKxYDE0NmNwg
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Jul 7, 2014 22:14
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Frkzd posted:Touching on the inconsistencies, I've learned to chalk it up to ever-shortening attention spans. This is a perfect example, but one of the better ones. You do realize Burton's film ended pretty similar to the novel, right? So your order is all messed up, since the novel comes first. Shyamalaned?
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Jul 8, 2014 15:20
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Darko posted:You do realize Burton's film ended pretty similar to the novel, right? So your order is all messed up, since the novel comes first. Shyamalaned? I assume he's talking about the nonsensical "twist" at the end that the apes had a guy that for some reason looks exactly like Lincoln and they also made the exact same statue of him that we did. I guess its not a proper term in this case because Shyamalan has a few of the most well-executed twists ever on his resume, and the twist in Planet of the Apes is a decent idea, only Burton hosed it up by shoehorning Lincoln in there. Stringing along the audience and executing the twist has never been Shymalan's problem.
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Jul 8, 2014 15:35
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It wasn't Lincoln, it was clearly General Thade.
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Jul 8, 2014 15:56
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:It wasn't Lincoln, it was clearly General Thade. It was Licolnafied Thade, who I guess went through the time tunnel (after Marky Mark) somehow and landed on earth, or something, and took it over in the past. Time somehow progressed in such a way that a statue that looks exactly like the Lincoln memorial was made to honor Thade, I guess. The monkey makeup in the movie was good though.
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Jul 8, 2014 16:18
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Ape makeup, you racist.
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Jul 8, 2014 16:21
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loving PC tumblr generation has made it so bad you can't say anything anymore
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Jul 8, 2014 16:24
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Just so you know We Hate Movies are talking about Planet of Apes (2001)
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Jul 8, 2014 16:25
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Essentially, Sterling, etc. took a book with a bum bum bummmm surprise twist at the end, and instead revamped that into a more poignant social commentary, in which the twist organically perfectly matched the progression and themes of the film and provided a different perspective for the entire film on rewatch (Zaius was actually justified in his viewpoint, given that humanity's violent nature and destroying itself is what created the society as-is). Since everyone already knew that twist when the movie was remade, they attempted to just do the original book twist with a few small changes (no robots, no disbelief from the apes, etc.) for the Burton movie instead. However, as stated, it wasn't as good of a twist, so nobody liked it as much. It's just that 99% of people didn't really know it was based on the original. Fun Burton connection fact, the ape planet in the book's sun was Betelgeuse.
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Jul 8, 2014 16:29
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Darko posted:Essentially, Sterling, etc. took a book with a bum bum bummmm surprise twist at the end, and instead revamped that into a more poignant social commentary, in which the twist organically perfectly matched the progression and themes of the film and provided a different perspective for the entire film on rewatch (Zaius was actually justified in his viewpoint, given that humanity's violent nature and destroying itself is what created the society as-is). Didn't the DVD also come with an insert that tried to explain it?
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Jul 8, 2014 16:31
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I still want to see an Apes movie that takes place in the kind of world that exists in the original book, where the ape society is just as technologically advanced as the present day. As lovely as the Tim Burton movie was, I still wish we could've had a sequel for that reason alone.
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Jul 8, 2014 16:34
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Diabolik900 posted:I still want to see an Apes movie that takes place in the kind of world that exists in the original book, where the ape society is just as technologically advanced as the present day. As lovely as the Tim Burton movie was, I still wish we could've had a sequel for that reason alone. It's coming if the positive reviews of this new one are any indication.
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Jul 8, 2014 16:42
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bobkatt013 posted:Didn't the DVD also come with an insert that tried to explain it? never owned it, so I dunno!
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Jul 8, 2014 16:59
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Has anyone seen the poster that looks like a painting with the ape riding the horse in the water with the gun raised? It's a really cool poster and looks 70's as gently caress.
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Jul 8, 2014 17:01
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Szmitten posted:Has anyone seen the poster that looks like a painting with the ape riding the horse in the water with the gun raised? It's a really cool poster and looks 70's as gently caress. Yeah, it's the theatrical poster, from what I've seen at the ol' multiplex. bobkatt013 posted:Didn't the DVD also come with an insert that tried to explain it? Yeah, and it's got a featurette of Tim Burton being pissy about it, too.
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Jul 8, 2014 17:29
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So excited to see this. Weekend can't come soon enough.
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Jul 8, 2014 17:38
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Yeah, it's the theatrical poster, from what I've seen at the ol' multiplex. Yeah, it is. There's also a HUGE cardboard standee of it in our theater, it's fantastic.
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Jul 8, 2014 17:44
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The thing that bothered me about Burtons PoTA is that Helena Bonham Carters' character looked like Michael loving Jackson. Also, it was poo poo.
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Jul 8, 2014 17:57
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The original movie makes me wish Rod Serling had worked on more movies. Planet of the Apes is basically just a long, big budgeted Twilight Zone episode to begin with, and hits all the notes of classic sci fi that I love. At the very least they could get Max Landis to do a Night Gallery adaptation.
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Jul 9, 2014 01:31
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Mantis42 posted:The original movie makes me wish Rod Serling had worked on more movies. Planet of the Apes is basically just a long, big budgeted Twilight Zone episode to begin with, and hits all the notes of classic sci fi that I love. You want a Landis to do another movie version of a tv show?
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Jul 9, 2014 03:10
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Holy poo poo watch this movie.
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Jul 9, 2014 08:07
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Drunkboxer posted:It was Licolnafied Thade.
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SwissCM posted:Holy poo poo watch this movie. That was all I needed to hear.
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Just when it seemed like blockbusters could never evolve, in rides this extraordinary epic — a towering fable of humanity and brutality that takes a great movie myth and launches it forward.
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Jul 9, 2014 19:35
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Chimply magnificent.
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Szmitten posted:Has anyone seen the poster that looks like a painting with the ape riding the horse in the water with the gun raised? It's a really cool poster and looks 70's as gently caress.  Got a bad feeling about that Metaphor Bridge.
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Jul 9, 2014 19:47
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TV spots piqued my interest, anyone able to quickly answer whether I should bother watching the 2001 Apes beforehand as well as Rise, or only the latter?
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Jul 9, 2014 21:56
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Anae posted:TV spots piqued my interest, anyone able to quickly answer whether I should bother watching the 2001 Apes beforehand as well as Rise, or only the latter? Don't watch the 2001 POTA under any circumstances.
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Jul 9, 2014 21:57
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Don't watch the 2001 POTA under any circumstances. Haha. Thanks for the decisive answer.
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Jul 9, 2014 22:02
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Anae posted:Haha. Thanks for the decisive answer. He's right, though. Definitely watch Rise, though, it's awesome.
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Jul 9, 2014 22:14
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I watched the original and its loving incredible. Are any of the sequels worth a watch?
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Jul 9, 2014 22:17
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bobkatt013 posted:I watched the original and its loving incredible. Are any of the sequels worth a watch? Kind of, but the only movie that's close to as good as the original is Rise. The sequels are good fun.
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Jul 9, 2014 22:18
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bobkatt013 posted:I watched the original and its loving incredible. Are any of the sequels worth a watch? The original sequels are varying degrees of fun, and I have a real fondness for them all, but they're definitely not at the same level as the original. I say watch them all, just don't expect to like them in the same way as the first.
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bobkatt013 posted:I watched the original and its loving incredible. Are any of the sequels worth a watch? Beneath is a bit boring despite being so weird, but it does set-up the remainder of the films. Escape is probably my favorite of the sequels. It's a really weird movie. I'm not a huge fan of Conquest and Battle, but they are still pretty fun movies. They deviate from humans as animals to just a subjugated minority which I've never found that as interesting. They're analogues for Rise and Dawn, respectively. Battle definitely gives a definitive yet ambiguous ending for the series for what it's worth. Back in the 90s, Sci/Fi aired all five movies over the course of five days. It might have been the most important week of my childhood. When Rises came up, my roommate hated it. And, yes, he's wrong. But he argued that my love for the movie stems from my nostalgia. My DVD collection built into a bust of Caesar made it hard to disagree with him.
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