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Guy A. Person posted:Even so, her scene with Fiona this past episode helped a lot to re-humanize her, hopefully there is more stuff like that in the coming weeks. I really loved that scene at the end with her crying and Fiona comforting her. I'm also very relieved that she didn't get molested by the pizza delivery guy.
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smg77 posted:I really loved that scene at the end with her crying and Fiona comforting her. I'm also very relieved that she didn't get molested by the pizza delivery guy. Fiona and Debbie have such a great relationship. I'm really enjoying the new season, even the parts others aren't liking. There was that Mandy/Debbie scene that I found odd, though. Mandy laughing off the whole concept of statutory rape, and Debbie not knowing what it was, seemed weird in light of their actions last season, even if the situations weren't the same.
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cptInsane0 posted:I feel like there is not enough hate for Debbie's terrible friends in this thread, especially lumpy space princess. Why should people hate Debbie's friends, unless you think you should also hate Mandy or the slutbag Fiona used to be. Her friends/associates are also just young kids who don't know any better. Might as well hate Carl for that matter. Don't hate tha playa, hate tha game.
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Drifter posted:Why should people hate Debbie's friends, unless you think you should also hate Mandy or the slutbag Fiona used to be. True. Maybe I just really don't like the LSP one.
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Drifter posted:Why should people hate Debbie's friends, unless you think you should also hate Mandy or the slutbag Fiona used to be.
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BreakAtmo posted:Mandy laughing off the whole concept of statutory rape, and Debbie not knowing what it was, seemed weird in light of their actions last season, even if the situations weren't the same. Mandy is a girl who regularly gets molested/raped by her father, yet doesn't leave the house or tell anyone about it (out of desperation, fear or just having nowhere else to go) so "abuse" or "rape" for her means that.
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I have not watched the American version but I have watched all 11 seasons of the original British version. I can't even imagine my favorite characters being portrayed in any other light. I'm very sad that I can't get a fan shirt from the real series but all I found online were fan shirts with the American characters.
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LostInThread posted:I have not watched the American version but I have watched all 11 seasons of the original British version. This version is so far superior to the UK one that it's quite amazing that it's actually based on that one.
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Vincent posted:Mandy is a girl who regularly gets molested/raped by her father, yet doesn't leave the house or tell anyone about it (out of desperation, fear or just having nowhere else to go) so "abuse" or "rape" for her means that. And yet she was revolted by the twenty-something woman having sex with 14-15-year-olds. I know there was the aspect of her having slept with Lip, but the way she called her 'kid fucker' really made it seem like that wasn't all.
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BreakAtmo posted:And yet she was revolted by the twenty-something woman having sex with 14-15-year-olds. I know there was the aspect of her having slept with Lip, but the way she called her 'kid fucker' really made it seem like that wasn't all. Maybe she called the teacher/molester a standard derogatory term in the heat of the moment, especially since that teacher lady seemed really upset by being one and outed again as being one? I'd have to watch that scene again, but it seemed like there was a lot of her being pissed that someone else was loving 'lip. Drifter fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Feb 10, 2014 |
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Drifter posted:Maybe she called the teacher/molester a standard derogatory term in the heat of the moment, especially since that teacher lady seemed really upset by being one and outed again as being one? It was partly that, but she absolutely said something in the vein of “You think I'm gonna let you off because if what's between your legs, kid-fucker?!" My impression was absolutely that she hates pedophiles in general, and that it went beyond Lip. Might be a subjective thing, though. BreakAtmo fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Feb 10, 2014 |
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Good lord I just caught up with this season and drat is it dark. I don't think I can enjoy this show the same way I had previously as something about it has just taken a turn for the severely depressing. e: Kevin and V remain a bright spot in the show. i love their chemistry and escapades
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Brennan posted:So is Ian on coke now?
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Ok, this was the best episode of the season so far. Liam getting into the coke stash was pretty jarring, akin to when Monica slit her wrists; poo poo caught me WAY off guard and everyone's reaction wrecked me. I also really enjoyed Lip's romp through Chicago to find Ian. His actions this episode painted a pretty definitive picture that says, at least to me, that Lip is finally starting to realize he's the only one who can save his family from the poo poo life they've been living. The look on his face as Fiona tried to figure out what was going on at the hospital said it all. It was pretty moving.
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So much for "No Distractions," eh Lip? Very interested to see where this goes. This season hasn't been the greatest because of the stories all feeling a little stale, but the past two episodes have given those stories a bit of closure or at least a shot in the arm, and it looks like things are gonna be CRAZY again soon. Also, I liked how Jimmy/Steve's dad had a quick throwaway line about whether Lip and Debbie had heard from his son at all, if only because closure on his plot from last season (ie: is he wearing cement shoes at the bottom of Lake Michigan or not?) is the #1 thing I want out of this season. I just want a concrete (  ) answer!
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teagone posted:I also really enjoyed Lip's romp through Chicago to find Ian. His actions this episode painted a pretty definitive picture that says, at least to me, that Lip is finally starting to realize he's the only one who can save his family from the poo poo life they've been living. See, my wife thought this too but to me his expression at the end of the episode was 100% "the second I left the family everything went to utter poo poo". Also he is literally the only adult Gallagher around at the moment so this is just going to completely derail his college chances. Also I didn't fully buy Fiona and Vi being THAT irresponsible with loving coke around Liam. They have been shown to indulge before but holy poo poo, this puts them in Frank and Monica territory at least and Fiona was never about that. If she had just forgotten to throw away the stash and he ate it thinking it was sugar or something (do Pixie Sticks still exist?) that would be one thing, but this was just too out of character for 3 people who used to be among the more reasonably responsible adults.
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Guy A. Person posted:See, my wife thought this too but to me his expression at the end of the episode was 100% "the second I left the family everything went to utter poo poo". Also he is literally the only adult Gallagher around at the moment so this is just going to completely derail his college chances. Yeah, I didn't like that either. The whole episode up until that point was about Fiona trying to get rid of her crazier impulses and dealing with the fallout from them. It was such a 180 to then be doing coke in the same room as Liam.
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Jesus Christ. That was some seriously brutal stuff with Liam. Loved this episode, and the promise of a hosed up, dark rest of the season ahead. It all seemed a little too good to be Shameless. It felt like a finale though, and we're what, like 4 episodes in? Can't wait to see where this stuff goes. But all I can think of when Running Tree is on screen is 
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again - 3.5 seasons in and I have no loving clue if Shameless leans more to drama or comedy. It makes me laugh hard and then shanks me in the back, and I love it. The thing with the coke is a little weird - I imagine they were going to be keeping a close eye on Liam, then they got high and THOUGHT they were keeping a close eye in him, and suddenly, bam. Stupid, stupid mistake, but this is still nowhere near Frank and Monica level. The on;y thing that strikes me as off is that Fiona was confused about why the police were arresting her. Maybe it's just because she was still high? BodyMassageMachine posted:So much for "No Distractions," eh Lip? Brilliant. I didn't even realise this.  quote:Very interested to see where this goes. This season hasn't been the greatest because of the stories all feeling a little stale, but the past two episodes have given those stories a bit of closure or at least a shot in the arm, and it looks like things are gonna be CRAZY again soon. It was stated in an interview months ago that Jimmy's dead and they simply lost the permit to shoot on the boat before they could film the death scene. That being said, the fact that we never saw it in the show means they could totally change their minds later down the road. I honestly wonder if the multiple mentions of Jimmy are building to something, or if the writers just think the characters never talking about him would be weird and unrealistic.
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Brennan posted:So is Ian on coke now? Nobody's first instinct was mental health issues, stemming from genetics or something that happened in ARMY, Michael! His mother, at least, has been revealed to have bipolar disorder. Not saying drugs can't be involved too.
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Fuckstick Electric posted:Nobody's first instinct was mental health issues, stemming from genetics or something that happened in ARMY, Michael! His mother, at least, has been revealed to have bipolar disorder. Not saying drugs can't be involved too. That's how I read the scene he seemed to be manic and or high on MDMA.
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^^^ - Jesus, I'm slow. Did I miss it where they discover Ian's on coke? It couldn't just be E or something?
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I need to remember to sandwich this show between some 'real' comedies from now on  I can't handle bad stuff happening to babies and pets. That and it looks like Ian's following his mom's path down the mental health highway.. he may have been on drugs as well, but completely flipping out while in the Military, which was his life's goal, seems like a very Monica thing to do. The last third or so of that episode gave me serious flashbacks to the Thanksgiving episode, right down to finding Liam/Monica in the kitchen.
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mcmagic posted:Lets hope the "Mike's BAD BOY brother" storyline was over. That was awful. Thousands of PUAs were frantically taking notes each time a scene with him and Fiona took place. "gently caress me? No, gently caress you" *bangs furiously*
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Drifter posted:Thousands of PUAs were frantically taking notes each time a scene with him and Fiona took place.
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It looked like the sweat lodge idea didn't work out for Frank either as he was shown to be unresponsive and was going to be transported to the hospital after the cops found him at the end. That was a fantastic episode and I'm glad it finally straightened out the show just before the halfway point in the season. Good observation with the irony of the "No Distractions" sign at the beginning. They better have very good reasons for bringing back Robbie and Debbie's ex-boyfriend if they do because they can just about be written off the show from this point. I hope we get a Fiona in jail subplot.
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Dr Christmas posted:Yeah, I didn't like that either. The whole episode up until that point was about Fiona trying to get rid of her crazier impulses and dealing with the fallout from them. It was such a 180 to then be doing coke in the same room as Liam. A 180 from screwing her boyfriend's brother on his kitchen countertop while he was passed out in his own bathroom? Seemed more like par for the course for Fiona this season. teagone fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Feb 10, 2014 |
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Dr Christmas posted:Yeah, I didn't like that either. The whole episode up until that point was about Fiona trying to get rid of her crazier impulses and dealing with the fallout from them. It was such a 180 to then be doing coke in the same room as Liam. Did Fiona ever do coke before on the show?
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