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colonel_korn posted:More golfing cartoons. More!! I wonder what it must be like to live in a James Bond world where you seriously believe a terrorist organization has a possibility for world domination. What is ISIS gonna build a giant railgun satellite to shoot meteors at countries or something?
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Oh come on conservative cartoonists, surely you must have something more substantive to talk about than golf On the bright side it reached the tipping point where it was no longer banal and became funny to me a bit ago. Just golf cartoon after golf cartoon; it's insane.Isn't Obama supposed to be some socialist hitler that wants to destroy america or something? Got any updates on that, anyone? No? Golfing, you say? Well, alright.
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Sep 2, 2014 19:18
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Merciful heaven...it looks like another journalist was beheaded.
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resurgam40 posted:Merciful heaven...it looks like another journalist was beheaded. God drat. Poor guy.
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Sep 2, 2014 19:34
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resurgam40 posted:Merciful heaven...it looks like another journalist was beheaded. Keep in mind the story behind this. They executed Foley, said if the US continued operations against ISIS, Sotloff would die, Obama didn't back down, and then Sotloff was executed. That's going to be interesting context for how these fools portray Obama on this.
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Sep 2, 2014 19:53
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Volkerball posted:Keep in mind the story behind this. They executed Foley, said if the US continued operations against ISIS, Sotloff would die, Obama didn't back down, and then Sotloff was executed. That's going to be interesting context for how these fools portray Obama on this. They're going to be split on "RAWR Obama's such a goddamn warmonger" and "Why didn't he do more to find him?!", just you wait.
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Sep 2, 2014 19:58
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Regalingualius posted:They're going to be split on "RAWR Obama's such a goddamn warmonger" and "Why didn't he do more to find him?!", just you wait. I'd imagine a lot of indirect implications that Obama should've negotiated with or given into the demands of terrorists, which they obviously would have attacked him over had he done so. And a Republican president would've done no differently except they might have carpet bombed the poo poo out of Iraq and Syria, which still would've resulted in Sotloff's death.
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Sep 2, 2014 20:08
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Volkerball posted:Keep in mind the story behind this. They executed Foley, said if the US continued operations against ISIS, Sotloff would die, Obama didn't back down, and then Sotloff was executed. That's going to be interesting context for how these fools portray Obama on this. "Why did Obama keep John Rambo in prison when he could have singlehandedly rescued all American prisoners held by ISIS, yes just the Americans gently caress everybody else."
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Regalingualius posted:They're going to be split on "RAWR Obama's such a goddamn warmonger" and "Why didn't he do more to find him?!", just you wait. There's no conflict of interest at all. Fighting ISIS is the job of ARE BOYS  , finding the journalist was the personal responsibility of Barack Obama (golfing President).
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Sep 2, 2014 20:11
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Only those drat dirty liberals politicize tragedy. - Every wingnut cartoonist
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So are the cartoonists just gonna ignore that ISIS has been called IS since June?
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Shai-Hulud posted:So are the cartoonists just gonna ignore that ISIS has been called IS since June? doing that would mean acknowledging what IS is actually trying to do rather than just calling them terrorists and being done with it
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Sep 2, 2014 20:19
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Shai-Hulud posted:So are the cartoonists just gonna ignore that ISIS has been called IS since June? Calling them IS is giving legitimacy to their claims of establishing a caliphate, so a lot of middle east specific journos refuse to call them that. There's a big debate over it, and a ton of people still call them ISIS or daesh.
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Sep 2, 2014 20:20
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I would watch the poo poo out of The Incredibles 2, whatever form it took
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JT Jag posted:I would watch the poo poo out of The Incredibles 2, whatever form it took The first one was already kinda dark.
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Sep 2, 2014 20:27
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Volkerball posted:Calling them IS is giving legitimacy to their claims of establishing a caliphate, so a lot of middle east specific journos refuse to call them that. There's a big debate over it, and a ton of people still call them ISIS or daesh. Am I wrong in thinking that this sounds really similar to Nazi Germany calling itself the Third Reich?
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Sep 2, 2014 20:27
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Wanamingo posted:Am I wrong in thinking that this sounds really similar to Nazi Germany calling itself the Third Reich? The goal of IS is to create essentially a Sunni state which is why I don't think America really has a "plan" to deal with that, because all the borders in the Middle East were drawn by the west anyways so trying to fight "ISIS" is essentially like trying to fight an idea that's the end of colonialism.
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Sep 2, 2014 20:32
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bassguitarhero posted:The goal of IS is to create essentially a Sunni state which is why I don't think America really has a "plan" to deal with that, because all the borders in the Middle East were drawn by the west anyways so trying to fight "ISIS" is essentially like trying to fight an idea that's the end of colonialism. ISIS is slaughtering Sunni's in Syria. They aren't a hivemind.
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bassguitarhero posted:The goal of IS is to create essentially a Sunni state which is why I don't think America really has a "plan" to deal with that, because all the borders in the Middle East were drawn by the west anyways so trying to fight "ISIS" is essentially like trying to fight an idea that's the end of colonialism. I'm... trying to figure out how this isn't a pro-ISIS post.  Is this a pro-ISIS post? That seems way too LF for D&D. Someone tell me I'm reading it wrong.
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Pee pee doo doo she is a woman
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He made Obama look more angry and vengeful against the US than the literal terrorist. It's the little things.  1Who wouldn't want to see that personification of privacy in the nude? Rowr.  2drat moderates, not killing every Muslim in sight.  3Looks like he's trying to hand Obama a gun so he can join in the whitey slaughter.  4TELEPROMPTERS  5INCISIVE COMMENTARY  6
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Sep 2, 2014 20:50
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Volkerball posted:ISIS is slaughtering Sunni's in Syria. They aren't a hivemind. Sunni's what?
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loquacius posted:I'm... trying to figure out how this isn't a pro-ISIS post.
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So if using drones to bomb ISIS is considered doing noting exactly what do they see doing something as? Another loving Middle East bullshit war no one loving wants to do? Weren't the first two enough?
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Mister Adequate posted:The problem with Ike (for modern conservatives) is that he supported various types of welfare, enacted some huge spending programs in the form of the Interstate system and laying the groundwork for NASA, and believed war was an ugly and evil thing which was, sometimes, a regrettable necessity, rather than being an awesome badass thing that all true men should be eager for. "I have just one purpose... and that is to build up a strong progressive Republican Party in this country. If the right wing wants a fight, they are going to get it ... before I end up, either this Republican Party will reflect progressivism or I won't be with them anymore." Man, the southern strategy must have been one hell of a drug.
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Radish posted:The first one was already kinda dark. Incredibles spoilers to follow, though if you haven't watched the movie you really should: A couple days later it hit me that everyone in that archive besides the main cast was dead. Either killed by some iteration of the killer robot or dead to some cape incident. It was a really morbid realization.
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Guavanaut posted:You can concede that the borders slapped over the Middle East after the fall of the Ottoman Empire were some bullshit and led to deep seated rifts without approving of IS. Comparing it to "an idea that's the end of colonialism" sounds a little iffy though 
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Internet Webguy posted:
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loquacius posted:I'm... trying to figure out how this isn't a pro-ISIS post. you unfortunately have a fragile and tiny mind Guavanaut posted:You can concede that the borders slapped over the Middle East after the fall of the Ottoman Empire were some bullshit and led to deep seated rifts without approving of IS. better explanation loquacius posted:Comparing it to "an idea that's the end of colonialism" sounds a little iffy though trying to fight groups devoted to ending colonialism is like having a "war on terror" or a "war on drugs"
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Dr. VooDoo posted:So if using drones to bomb ISIS is considered doing noting exactly what do they see doing something as? Another loving Middle East bullshit war no one loving wants to do? Weren't the first two enough? The only thing that will keep "Iraq" together in the sense that the West set out would basically require overwhelming force because the three factions of Iraq CLEARLY don't want to live together or share the same state but damned if we're going to let them draw their own borders.
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JT Jag posted:After I bought the Incredibles DVD years ago, I went through all the extras, and there was this big archive detailing all the various superheroes in the world, including voice clips and stuff. And I was really hyped up and thought "oh cool, you could make a sequel with this much backstory." Actually, a few of the heroes from the archive are still alive! But only like two or three (not counting Mr. Incredible, his family, and FroZone). I can't remember which ones, but if you re-watch the scene where Mr. Incredible checks the Hero database Syndrome hadn't killed or been able to find a few. I'm pretty sure one of them was a bug woman with powers that disrupted electronic equipment so her voice couldn't be archived, but it's been a LONG time since I watched the DVD so I'm not sure.
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bassguitarhero posted:you unfortunately have a fragile and tiny mind Oh hey, condescension. Thought this Internet discussion was missing something, thanks  quote:trying to fight groups devoted to ending colonialism is like having a "war on terror" or a "war on drugs" Yeah I'm still not really seeing the parallel between "a group which summarily massacres anyone who does not conform to their specific form of religious extremism" and "a group devoted to ending colonialism," is my issue. I can parse it as a different type of colonialism, but that's it.
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Given his use of a monolithic "West", full equation of all actions in the region, and treatment of their influence analogous to the naturalistic fallacy, and use of the title "IS", yeah, it's basically a Rallesque indirect pro-ISIS position. Inquiry will be redirected with a "But the West".
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bassguitarhero posted:Then you fail at understanding colonialism and that's why you don't understand what IS is doing. quote:the policy or practice of acquiring full or partial political control over another country, occupying it with settlers, and exploiting it economically. But enough about ISIS and rich Saudi's.
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bassguitarhero posted:Then you fail at understanding colonialism and that's why you don't understand what IS is doing.  Putting aside how unbelievably condescending you're continuing to be, why is it important whether I "understand colonialism" or even "understand what IS is doing" for you to tell me how defining a group as "anti-colonialism" above other details like "genocidal" shouldn't be read as support of that group?
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bassguitarhero posted:Then you fail at understanding colonialism and that's why you don't understand what IS is doing. ISIS is a nouveau-colonialist movement dedicated to importing a foreign government, religion, and culture onto the native peoples of Iraq and Syria. They're not anti-colonialists and they're definitely not anti-imperialist, they're really overtly aware and intentional about making their artificial country. It's even in their name.
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loquacius posted:
Trying to paint me as supporting something by explaining how it works is an rear end in a top hat thing to do which helps you earn the condescension that you're getting, but this whole "oh gee whiz but that mean ol mr bassguitarhero just won't educate me aww shucks" thing is getting real tiring real fast Direwolf posted:ISIS is a nouveau-colonialist movement dedicated to importing a foreign government, religion, and culture onto the native peoples of Iraq and Syria. They're not anti-colonialists and they're definitely not anti-imperialist, they're really overtly aware and intentional about making their artificial country. It's even in their name. "artifical" country is the real moneyquote here. It isn't artificial when the towns they're taking over are outright supporting them.
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bassguitarhero posted:Trying to paint me as supporting something by explaining how it works is an rear end in a top hat thing to do which helps you earn the condescension that you're getting, but this whole "oh gee whiz but that mean ol mr bassguitarhero just won't educate me aww shucks" thing is getting real tiring real fast Dude I wasn't trying to paint you as anything, my post was "this looks like it's pro-ISIS but that's obviously a dumb idea, someone tell me how I'm reading it wrong". You still haven't answered the question or anything; I guess you don't have to if you don't want but I'm gonna stick with my initial impression if you don't give me a new one, and "you are a dum-dum and my genius opinions are beyond the ability of your feeble, feeble mind to comprehend" doesn't really count
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