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Endless Mike posted:Marvel will be publishing Star Wars comics starting in 2015, as expected. Well goodbye Dark Horse
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redbackground posted:They'll still be able to sell their old/current output, right? I don't think so. Comics licenses have tended to come with the rights to reprint previous companies' comics using that license. See: Marvel reprinting Boom! Disney comics, IDW reprinting DC's Star Trek books, Marvel's Transformers, and Topps' X-Files, and of course, Dark Horse previously reprinting Marvel's Star Wars and Indiana Jones books.
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Jan 3, 2014 20:08
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redbackground posted:They'll still be able to sell their old/current output, right? Can Marvel reprint ROM?
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Jan 3, 2014 20:09
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bobkatt013 posted:Well goodbye Dark Horse They should spend the next 12 months trying everything. Throw poo poo at the walls and see what sticks. If they can convince some respected creators to come there with new series ideas rather than Image then they could start building so it's not such a shock to the system when Star Wars stops. Develop IP. Do it now.
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Jan 3, 2014 20:14
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This really is the critical moment for Dark Horse, especially since Hellboy/BPRD won't be there forever.
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Jan 3, 2014 20:20
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Dr. Hurt posted:This really is the critical moment for Dark Horse, especially since Hellboy/BPRD won't be there forever. Can they move to Image?
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Jan 3, 2014 20:21
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Dr. Hurt posted:This really is the critical moment for Dark Horse, especially since Hellboy/BPRD won't be there forever. The also don't have their fall back of "Whedon shows" anymore since Marvel took that.
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Jan 3, 2014 20:22
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All Dark Horse needs to do is get Adam Warren to start doing a monthly Empoweahahahahahaha. Can't even finish the thought.
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Jan 3, 2014 20:24
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bobkatt013 posted:Can they move to Image? I'm not sure but it's not going to matter much longer. The story's only going to keep going for 2-3 more years anyway, so that's not really good for long term Dark Horse survival.
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Jan 3, 2014 20:31
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CaptainApathyUK posted:They should spend the next 12 months trying everything. Throw poo poo at the walls and see what sticks. If they can convince some respected creators to come there with new series ideas rather than Image then they could start building so it's not such a shock to the system when Star Wars stops. They should have been spending the last 12 months doing this when the inevitable may not have been so obvious to everyone.
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Jan 3, 2014 20:36
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I cannot wait for the Expanded Universe to get loving dynamited into dust and never spoken of again.
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Jan 4, 2014 00:19
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CapnAndy posted:I cannot wait for the Expanded Universe to get loving dynamited into dust and never spoken of again. That's understandable in most cases, but Dark Horse's comics are unquestionably the best EU stuff out there. Legacy is like the best Star Wars-related thing in the past decade or so. It's a shame they're losing the license, but I'm also kind of excited to see what Marvel's going to do with it.
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Jan 4, 2014 00:26
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CapnAndy posted:I cannot wait for the Expanded Universe to get loving dynamited into dust and never spoken of again. It will always live on in all of the time I wasted as a youth reading horrible, horrible books.
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Jan 4, 2014 00:27
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EU is literally poo poo spun to gold. It will never die.
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Jan 4, 2014 00:28
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Not sure why people are so rabidly anti-EU. Most of it is dumb, but such is the case with every piece of licensed fiction. Some of it is also pretty good, particularly the comics. Either way, it's mostly harmless, and has done way less damage to that franchise than Lucas himself has.
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Jan 4, 2014 00:31
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I hope DH does another omnibus sale before this all disappears.
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Jan 4, 2014 00:33
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I asked this in the DC thread but I guess it also applies to the Marvel NOW! stuff as well but: I was thinking about the "The New 52!" (or "Marvel NOW!") tagline on all these books. How long will something like that stick? How many years will it take for these books to just be regular continuity and no longer the supposed big deal as it is?
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Jan 4, 2014 00:52
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Sundowner posted:I asked this in the DC thread but I guess it also applies to the Marvel NOW! stuff as well but: I was thinking about the "The New 52!" (or "Marvel NOW!") tagline on all these books. How long will something like that stick? How many years will it take for these books to just be regular continuity and no longer the supposed big deal as it is? The New 52 is probably permanent,(until the next reset, I suppose.) but Marvel Now! doesn't actually change anything continuity wise. It was a pure marketing move.
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The Marvel NOW! branding is over. Now it's All-New Marvel NOW! In six months they'll start Even More Marvel NOW! You Thought It Was Over But Oh Lookie We Got You Some More Newer Marvel NOW! Sundowner posted:You really think The New 52 thing will be permanent? I figured it would stick around for a few years as promotional and eventually be phased out. Are we talking branding or continuity? I bet those three words will be phased out next year. Marvel NOW! and The New 52! badges serve the same purpose to be pointed at when someone is asking about getting into comics and not wanting to read years and years of stuff. Once these volumes get into 30ish issue runs, that'll start to get meaningless and I'm guessing it's then they'll be gone (at least from DC. Marvel are going volume reset crazy right now. We might never see high issue numbers again from them.) Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Jan 4, 2014 |
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Jan 4, 2014 01:00
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You really think The New 52 thing will be permanent? I figured it would stick around for a few years as promotional and eventually be phased out. Edit: I quite literally meant the New 52 logo and the general idea of it being "The New 52" and not just regular comics. (I know they are just regular comics but from a marketing and branding view point) Sundowner fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Jan 4, 2014 |
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Jan 4, 2014 01:09
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Hakkesshu posted:That's understandable in most cases, but Dark Horse's comics are unquestionably the best EU stuff out there. Legacy is like the best Star Wars-related thing in the past decade or so. It's a shame they're losing the license, but I'm also kind of excited to see what Marvel's going to do with it. Republic is better than Legacy. It's from the same creative team.
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Jan 4, 2014 01:16
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Metal Loaf posted:Republic is better than Legacy. It's from the same creative team. I disagree, but yes, Ostrander/Duursema do quality work.
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Hakkesshu posted:That's understandable in most cases, but Dark Horse's comics are unquestionably the best EU stuff out there. Legacy is like the best Star Wars-related thing in the past decade or so. It's a shame they're losing the license, but I'm also kind of excited to see what Marvel's going to do with it. Yeah, I really wish Legacy got a proper ending instead of a "To be continued". I don't have high hopes of Disney/Marvel picking it up.
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Hakkesshu posted:I disagree, but yes, Ostrander/Duursema do quality work. Legacy isn't a bad series by any means. I like Republic better because a) it was the favourite comic of my early adolescnce and b) I generally prefer the material that's reasonably close, chronologically speaking, to the setting of the films.
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Jan 4, 2014 01:31
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Dr. Hurt posted:I'm not sure but it's not going to matter much longer. The story's only going to keep going for 2-3 more years anyway, so that's not really good for long term Dark Horse survival. I'm not entirely sure that's accurate. I might be misremembering, and I can't find the article now, but I'm pretty sure within the last five years or so, Mignola has said he's only about halfway done with Hellboy, meaning we probably have at least another ten years of stories.
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Sundowner posted:You really think The New 52 thing will be permanent? I figured it would stick around for a few years as promotional and eventually be phased out.
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Jan 4, 2014 16:26
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This Star Wars poo poo reminds me of a question I had: has anyone read John Wagner's Boba Fett comics? We've got 'em at my library and both John Wagner and Boba Fett are rad so I assume said comics are rad.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:This Star Wars poo poo reminds me of a question I had: has anyone read John Wagner's Boba Fett comics? We've got 'em at my library and both John Wagner and Boba Fett are rad so I assume said comics are rad. I've only read "Enemy of the Empire" but I think it's good fun. They have two things going for them, namely a) they came out before Episode II, so there isn't any clone baggage at play and b) they came out before Karen Traviss started writing EU books, so there's no Mandalorian fetishism either. I think he writes Fett kinda like Dredd (though I've not read much 2000 AD, so maybe someone better versed in both series can correct me) insofar as he's portrayed as being highly competent and very determined, but the writer and the plot aren't necessarily in complete awe of him.
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Jan 4, 2014 17:58
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Anyone have any strong feelings about Matt Wagner's Mage comics? Saw the trades in the store cheap, and realized it's one of those series I never really heard anything about, other than basic premise. I remember enjoying a couple of his Grendel books back in the day, though I'm not sure how well they hold up. Worth picking up?
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Madrox posted:Anyone have any strong feelings about Matt Wagner's Mage comics? Saw the trades in the store cheap, and realized it's one of those series I never really heard anything about, other than basic premise. I remember enjoying a couple of his Grendel books back in the day, though I'm not sure how well they hold up. Worth picking up? I only read the first part but it was really good, if it's cheap and you like Grendel I'd say definitely snag it.
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I like Matt Wagner's Mage a lot, though I haven't read them in like, god, over a decade now. The first one is slightly dated, though not in a bad way-- it just reads like what it is, a super early work by a really talented writer/artist who's still kinda growing into himself (which is actually what the series is metaphorically about). It's definitely less rough than the early Grendel, and if you dig urban fantasy then by all means go for it. The second series is much more polished artwise (though I still love the sorta-grafitti-ish character of the first series' art), but way more meandering in story, and it kind of peters out. To a degree this is intentional, since Mage is sort of a magical realist autobio the same way Scott Pilgrim is for Bryan Lee O'Malley, and this one is "about" Matt Wagner's career in comics (literally every character I can think of is visually based on and often named in homage to someone he's worked with or is related to, which is a fun bit of trainspotting for industry supernerds), which, obviously, was far from over when he wrote it. It's an interesting read, but overall weaker than the first, and I have no idea where it'll go whenever he gets around to doing a third. So definitely check out the first series, and if you like that certainly don't avoid the second, but temper your expectations a bit going in.
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I was just checking what's coming out this Wednesday and I see Avengers World #1 and Black Widow #1 are coming out. I am not reading any Marvel books right now and I thought it would be nice to start reading some from a #1 so are either of these two looking to be good? I love Phil Noto's art work so I think I'm sold on Black Widow regardless but I'm still curious. Edit: Oh also, what about All-New X-Factor #1 coming out too? Sundowner fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Jan 5, 2014 |
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Jan 5, 2014 04:04
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If you really want to start at the beginning of stuff I'd suggest tracking down the start of the recent volumes of Avengers and New Avengers instead of starting at Avengers World. Those series both are starts of all new story arcs that are being continued in Avengers World.
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The series will probably be spinning heavily out of Infinity, so I'd recommend reading all of Hickman's MARVEL NOW!! Avengers stuff to start, which is a pile of great comics. The crossover event was even pretty good, and those things are never good. e: Sundowner posted:Are there enough trades out yet to get me caught up? It looks like the latest Avengers, New Avengers and Infinity trades are all out by mid-feb. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Jan 5, 2014 |
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Are there enough trades out yet to get me caught up? Avengers was the one I was interested in the least of the 3 I mentioned mostly because I just can't work up the initial interest in reading Avengers. Maybe the movies spoiled it for me (everyone kinda annoyed me) or whatever but I was willing to give it a shot because there's a #1 coming out this week and I still have a bit of a complex with not wanting to read books mid-run even though that'll probably change soon with a lot of DC stuff I'm outright missing due to it. In any case, I think I'll definitely go for Black Widow and I'll flip through All New X-Factor in the shop to see if it looks interesting at a glance. I'll probably just catch up on the Avengers stuff mentioned above via trades whenever I can muster up the motivation.
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Jan 5, 2014 07:01
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bobkatt013 posted:Well goodbye Dark Horse They're not worried. The single best selling DH comic ever was Buffy Season 8 #1. They'll survive just fine.
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Jan 5, 2014 08:53
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Rhyno posted:They're not worried. The single best selling DH comic ever was Buffy Season 8 #1. They'll survive just fine. Until all the Whedon stuff moves to Marvel too. Wouldn't surprise me much.
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Decius posted:Until all the Whedon stuff moves to Marvel too. Wouldn't surprise me much. Doubt it. Joss doesn't own Buffy, Angel or Firefly.
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Jan 5, 2014 09:30
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I am not a Whedon fan but I am currently really thankful for his rabid fanbase. 
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While of course I'd prefer Dark Horse to go through something like the Image Renaissance, I think they really should look towards the success Boom has had. You probably can't pick up something with the fanbase of Star Wars, but getting a few other solid licenses should help a lot. They should get creative and try to forge a relationship similar to Boom's relationship with Cartoon Network, something that fosters a few solid properties. On the sadder end of things though, if Dark Horse did go under, it would be a loving coup if Image became the home of Hellboy stuff.
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