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Meat Recital
Mar 26, 2009

by zen death robot
NewBee won and everyone was sad.


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Welcome to the 3rd edition of the Pro Dota 2 thread. (Previous threads 1 2) There are professional Defense of the Ancients Two events taking place every day all over the world, and this is the place for live reactions and commentary. Posting here is more relaxed than in the main Dota 2 thread, and more in line with SAS GDT or TVIV style posting.

The main Dota 2 thread is located here.

:siren: There is a TI4 Goon meet happening here :siren:




Every year, Valve Software hosts The International (TI), bringing the top 16 Dota 2 teams in the world to compete for a prizepool of over 1 million dollars. The past two events have been held in Seattle in August, with last year paying out over $2.7 million in total with a top prize of over $1.3 million. Games are broadcast free through the Dota 2 client and on Twitch and other streaming platforms. The event lasts about two weeks, and last year there was a strong goon contingent who made the trip to Seattle for the final weekend.

Past Winners
2011: Natus Vincere
2012: Invictus Gaming
2013: The Alliance
2014: TBD

The 2014 edition, The International 4, begins on July 8th with preliminary stages, with the Main Event taking place at Seattle's Key Arena from the 18th to the 21st. The total prize pool is currently over 10 million dollars, with the winning team receiving almost $5 million.

Sixteen teams will be competing at this year's International. Eleven of the top teams in the world were invited directly, four teams were invited after winning their regional qualifiers, and one wild card team will earn their way in. In Phase One, the four regional runners-up will fight for the wild card slot to enter the main tournament. In Phase Two, each team will play each other once in a round robin, with the top ten teams being seeded further in to the playoff and the bottom six teams eliminated. In Phase Three, teams will face off in successive Best-of-3s to advance to the main event.

Games on broadcast through the Dota 2 client, and on Twitch.tv. Broadcasts will be available in many languages, English, French, Russian, Chinese, Portugese, Korean, and likely others. Last year's event doubled the previous year's viewership, reaching over 1 million concurrent viewers for the Finals.

http://www.dota2.com/international/overview/

SCHEDULE

July 8 - Playoffs Phase One, Wild Card play-ins

July 9-12 - Playoffs Phase Two, round robin

July 13-14 - Playoffs Phase Three, elimination rounds

July 18-21 - Main Event, conclusion of the upper and lower brackets, and the Grand Finals

MEET THE TEAMS

The 11 Invites

Team DK

quote:

DK’s roster is one of the most versatile in Dota. Looking at the number of different heroes played by each player since 6.80, DK has three players in the top 10. Mushi–who played the most different heroes at TI3–, Burning–who played a different hero in each game of DK’s undefeated run at StarLadder 9–and MMY. Being able to pull from such a large hero pool gives DK a few advantages like making them hard to predict, allowing the team to play a variety of strategies, and giving the team flexibility in the draft.
Team Preview


BARONS GAMES WHINER posted:



THANKS DK YOU FUCKS


ROSTER:
Carry: Xu "Burning" Zhilei (c)
Mid: Chai "Mushi" Yee Fung
Offlane: Daryl "Iceiceice" Koh Pei Xiang
Support: Zhi "LaNm" Cheng Zhang
Support: Lei "MMY" Zengrong

Natus Vincere (Na'Vi)

quote:

NaVi is the most successful and perhaps the most popular team in Dota 2. NaVi was the winner of The International (TI) 2011, and runners up at TI2 and TI3. Puppey, XBOCT, and Dendi have been with the team for all three TIs while KoroKy and Funn1k joined prior to TI3. Dendi is one of the top mid players in the world, XBOCT is a great carry, Puppey and KuroKy are fantastic supports, and Funn1k is a dynamic offlaner. So why is a team this experienced and this talented performing so poorly heading into TI4?
Team Preview

ROSTER:
Support: Clement "Puppey" Ivanov (c)
Carry: Oleksandr "XBOCT" Dashkevych
Mid: Danil "Dendi" Ishutin
Offlane: Gleb "Funn1k" Lipatnikov
Support: Kuro "KuroKy" Salehi Takhasomi

The Alliance

quote:

Alliances returns everyone from The International (TI) 2013 winning team. Alliance was the favorite entering TI3 and–outside of the grand finals at TI3–dominated the competition. The roster is talented and experienced. Loda is a versatile player (he’s played the 4th most heroes in 6.80 and later) and one of the best carry players in the game.
Team Preview

ROSTER:
Carry: Jonathan "Loda" Berg
Mid: Gustav "s4" Magnusson
Offlane: Henrik "AdmiralBulldog" Ahnberg
Support: Jerry "EGM" Lundkvist
Support: Joakim "Akke" Akterhall

Fnatic

quote:

Fnatic has the 8th highest tournament winnings since TI3. Notable performances include 2nd place at the EMS Fall Finals, 2nd in the D2L Season 4, 1st in the MLG TKO, and 2nd at in the D2CL Season 3.
Team Preview

ROSTER:
Support: Tal "Fly" Aizik (c)
Support: Johan "n0tail" Sundstein
Carry: Adrian "Era" Kryeziu
Mid: Kai "H4nni" Hanbueckers
Offlane: Kalle "Trixi" Saarinen
Coach: Steve "Xcalibur" Ye

Invictus Gaming (iG)

quote:

iG sports the 2nd most tournament winnings since TI3. Highlights include 1st place at ESL Frankfurt, 1st place in the 2014 WPC ACE, 2nd place in the 2013 WPC ACE, and 1st in the Redbull ECL 2014.
Team Preview

ROSTER:
Offlane: Jiang "YYF" Cen (c)
Mid: Luo "Ferarri_430" Feichi
Support: Zeng "Faith" Hongda
Carry: Luo "Luo"/"Xi" Yinqi
Support: Wong Hock "Chuan" Chuan

Vici Gaming

quote:

VG shuffled its roster in the post TI3 transition period. The two supports–Fenrir and fy– remained and were joined by former DK players rOtK and Super. Sylar joined in October and since then VG has had one of the most stable rosters in China, behind only DK. Sylar is a premiere carry, best known for his days in LGD.cn. fy is a fantastic support and has been known to win 1v1 tournaments.
Team Preview

ROSTER:
Offlane: Bai "rOtk" Fan (c)
Carry: Liu "Sylar" Jiajun
Support: Chao "Fenrir" Lu
Support: Linsen "fy" Xu
Mid: Xie "Super" Juanhao

Cloud 9

quote:

C9′s victory at MLG Columbus was impressive. Not only did the team play so well but did so with a stand-in and with the Speed.int’s manager undercutting the players. C9 has the talent to compete with anyone and has shown short stretches of being among the best team in the world. The team has a lot of upside.
Team Preview

ROSTER
Support: Johan "pieliedie" Åström (c)
Mid: Weh "SingSing" Sing Yuen
Offlane: Pittner "bOne7" Armand
Support: Kurtis "Aui_2000" Ling
Carry: Jacky "EternalEnvy" Mao

Titan Esports

quote:

Titan formed in September when kYxY, Net, Ohaiyo, and XtiNcT left Orange to join Titan. The only member not to come from that Orange squad that finished third at The International (TI) 2013 was Mushi, who was arguably the squad’s most important player (and possibly the best player at TI3). Titan went through a few players before YamateH joined in January.
Team Preview

ROSTER
Support: Joel "XtiNcT" Chan Zhan Leong (c)
Carry: Ng "Yamateh" Wei Poong
Support: Wai "Net" Pern Lim
Offlane: Chong "Ohaiyo" Xin Khoo
Mid: Lee "kYxY" Kong Yang

Evil Geniuses

quote:

EG retooled after failing to qualify for TI3. The post TI3 roster struggled well into the winter, until current EG players Fear and Universe played under the tag sadboys with Arteezy, ppd, and zai. Eventually, sadboys ended and the five were officially incorporated into EG in February. Since then EG has been on fire. Even when an injury ended Fear’s season, the stand-in (now an official member) mason performed admirably and EG has kept up its strong performance.
Team Preview

ROSTER
Support: Peter "ppd" Dager (c)
Carry: Mason "mason" Venne
Mid: Artour "Arteezy" Babaev
Offlane: Saahil "Universe" Arora
Support: Ludwig "zai" Wahlberg

NewBee

quote:

Don’t let the recent join dates of the players fool you. This is an experienced squad. Banana, Hao, Mu, and SanSheng played together as TongFu on the 4th place The International (TI) 2013 team. xiao8 is the former captain of LGD.cn and brings many of the positive traits that LGD had to Nb. Hao is one of the premier carries in the game and Banana and Mu impressed a lot of people last year at TI3.
Team Preview

ROSTER
Offlane: Zhang "xiao8" Ning
Mid: Zhang "Mu" Pan
Carry: Chen "Hao" Zhihao
Support: Jiao "Banana" Wang
Support: Zhaohui "SanSheng" Wang

Empire


quote:

Empire reformed in August-September of 2013 in the post TI3 transition period. A couple of months later Resolut1on joined the squad and the team started to gel. Over the winter of 2013-2014 Empire had one of the hottest stretches of Dota of any team, winning nearly 80% of their games over a three month span. Unfortunately that stretch occurred during online play, and the squad was not able to see if its hot streak would carry over to an offline environment. Empire is a bit light on major offline event and TI experience compared to most of their competitors but a 2nd place finish against the stacked field at StarLadder 9 has allayed most of those concerns.
Team Preview


ROSTER:
Offlane: Andrew "MAG~" Chipenko (c)
Carry: Airat "Silent <3 Mila" Gaziev
Mid: Roman "Resolut1on" Fominok
Support: Ivan "VANSKOR" Skorokhod
Support: Andrey "ALWAYSWANNAFLY" Bondarenko

The Four Qualifiers

LGD Gaming

quote:

Yao, DD, and DDC return from The International (TI) 2013 team that finished tied for 9th. The all-star carry Sylar left in September for xiaotuji and former long-time captain xiao8 left in February. The team went through multiple replacements (Icy and Maybe) before settling on lin. LGD qualified for TI4 by dominating the TI4 China Qualifiers, only losing two matches, and at the time looked like the best team at the any of the qualifiers. However since then results have been middling.
Team Preview

ROSTER:
Mid/Offlane: Yao "Yao" Zhenzheng (c)
Mid/Offlane: Xu "Lin" Ziyang
Carry: Wang "Rabbit"/"Xiaotuji" Zhang
Support: Xie "DD" Bin
Support: Leong "DDC" Fatmeng

Mousesports

quote:

mouz picked up the former team DOG in May, prior to mouz winning the The International (TI) 2014 European Qualifiers. DOG formed in February of 2014 when former LGD.int teammates Misery and Pajkatt joined with MSS and others. DOG then picked up Sigma.int players paS and FATA prior to becoming mouz. All the players except for MSS have TI experience, though mouz (FATA and paS’s TI3 team) and LGD.int (Misery and Pajkatt’s TI3 team) both had disappointing TI3 performances and finished outside the money.
Team Preview

ROSTER:
Carry: Per Anders "Pajkatt" Olsson Lille (c)
Mid: Adrian "FATA-" Trinks
Offlane: Arif "MSS" Anwar
Support: Rasmus "MiSeRy" Filipsen
Support: Pasal "paS" Lohmeier

Arrow Gaming

quote:

Arrow is one of the newer teams to qualify for The International (TI). The squad formed in January of 2014, though most of the roster had some history together while playing under the Lowyat name. While the team looked impressive in the TI4 SEA qualifiers and against SEA competition, the roster is light on experience and is largely untested. ddz is a player to keep an eye on. While he may not be as accomplished as some other solo mid players, he can be electric in his playmaking.
Team Preview

ROSTER:
Offlane: Johnny "JoHnNy" Lee (c)
Mid: Kok Yi "ddz" Liong
Carry: Fua "Lance" Hsien Wan
Support: Chung "MoZuN" Kah Sheng
Support: Chiok "xiangzia" Soon Siang

Na`Vi.US

quote:

As NAR, these five players won the The International (TI) America Qualifiers before being picked up by the NaVi organization and branded as NaVi.US . NAR formed in April of 2014 when some of the best known, teamless North American players banded together. All five of the players appeared at TI3. Fogged and Sneyking for Dignitas, Korok for Liquid, and Brax and 1437 for LGD.int. In the months following TI3, the players left their teams for a variety of reasons until finding success as NAR.
Team Preview

ROSTER:
Offlane: Braxton "Brax" Paulson (c)
Carry: Jing Jun "Sneyking" Wu
Mid: Steven "Korok" Ashworth
Support: Ioannic "Fogged" Loucas
Support: Sivatheeban "1437" Sivanathapillai

The Wild Card Teams

CIS Game

Chinese Qualifiers. One of the more innovative teams in China. Started the trend of Blink Dagger Wraith King and solo mid Sniper in the competitive scene. Ayo's support Mirana is top notch. Despite the language barrier, goon favorite Black^ has been a mentoring force for this young team.

ROSTER:
Carry: Dominik "Black^" Reitmeier (c)
Mid: He "inflame" Yongzheng
Offlane: Lin "June" Shiyang
Support: Fan "Ayo" Tianyou
Support: Xiao "demons" Zuoyi

Virtus.Pro

European Qualifiers. Can beat anyone on a good day, but unfortunately good days can be few and far between for this team. After a middling 5-4 in the Qualifier group stages, they surprised everybody beating RoX.KiS to make it to the finals, and even took eventually winners Mouz to 5 games before losing 3-2. Very experienced team.

ROSTER:
Support: Yaroslav "NS" Kuznetsov (c)
Carry: Ilya "Illidan" Pivcaev
Mid: Sergey "God" Bragin
Offlane: Sergey "ARS-ART" Revin
Support: Egor "JotM" Surkov

Team Liquid

American Qualifers. The 2013-14 season has been very disappointing for Liquid after a surprisingly strong finish at TI3. Qojqva had been playing out of his mind in the leadup and during the American Qualifiers, but other players will need to step up. The players have a lot of experience, but there's been a lot of turmoil surrounding this team, and this group has only been together for a short while.

ROSTER:
Carry: Tyler "TC" Cook (c)
Mid: Max "Qojqva" Broecker
Offlane: Sam "Bulba" Sosale
Support: Jimmy "Demon" Ho
Support: Peter "Waytosexy" Nguyen

MVP.Phoenix

South-East Asian Qualifiers. Historically the second best team in Korea, they've been on a tear since the addition of QO. Their run through the Qualifiers surprised many, though their magic seemed to wear off for the finals where they looked outclassed against Arrow. Very young team, and without a lot of Dota experience to draw from in their home country.

ROSTER:
Carry: Park "March" Tae Won (c)
Mid: Kim "QO" Seon Yeob
Offlane: Lee "Forev" Sang Don
Support: Lee "Reisen" Jun Yeong
Support: Lee "Heen" Seung GoN



What can I earn for watching this and other event?
By watching games in client or on Twitch, you can earn special ingame drops. These drops will be tied to specific ingame events, such as first bloods or multikills, and will be tagged with the time, date, and players involved. For most tournaments, you will have to have bought the ticket to be eligible for drops.

I want to earn cool hat drops and level up my Meepo set but I'm stuck going to the movies with my wife. What can I do?
You have two options. Using the console command dota_spectator_auto_spectate_games leagueid you can set Dota 2 to automatically join tournament games of a given tournament. See this page for individual league IDs. Alternatively, you can link your twitch.tv account to Steam, making you eligible for ingame item drops.

UPDATE: There is now a tickbox on each tournament page allowing you to autospectate games.

I'm having issues with Twitch/DailyMotion/Ustream/whatever. Help!

Kyrosiris posted:

I have noticed that people who have stream issues with either Twitch or DailyMotion have them considerably reduced with Livestreamer.

https://github.com/chrippa/livestreamer/releases + a batch file that you can make to auto-run for you: http://pastebin.com/iuMuZVdN



RESOURCES

Statistics
http://www.datdota.com
http://dotabuff.com/esports
http://dotametrics.wordpress.com/

VOD/Streams
http://dailydota2.com/
http://www.dotacinema.com/vods
Dota 2 Match Ticker extension for Chrome

News
http://esportsexpress.com/category/dota-2/
http://www.liquiddota.com
http://www.joindota.com
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2

Betting
http://dota2lounge.com/ - Bet Dota 2 items on games.

Meat Recital fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Oct 20, 2014

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Guidos Python
Sep 7, 2009
Orange is gonna win TI4

Firebatgyro
Dec 3, 2010
Just a heads up, Speed are all home from China and don't plan on going back because they all hated it there.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
Demon is the best ringer. #roadtoti4 #DEDICATION

Meat Recital
Mar 26, 2009

by zen death robot

Guidos Python posted:

Orange is gonna win TI4

Maybe Winter will finally get married :unsmith:

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
Godspeed, old thread. You were great for a huge bunch of laughs and tears.

I wonder how the second big Chinese roster shuffle is gonna pan out.

Kainser
Apr 27, 2010

O'er the sea from the north
there sails a ship
With the people of Hel
at the helm stands Loki
After the wolf
do wild men follow

Meat Recital posted:


Speed Gaming

Speed Gaming, formerly RattleSnake.int, formerly Kaipi, are the new kids on the block. Surprised everyone upsetting Team DK in the finals of MLG Columbus, they recently signed an agreement with Chinese organizations RattleSnake and will be playing in Chinasomewhere in 2014. They dont play the prettiest Dota, but they understand how to grind out small advantages, and how to turn that in to wins.

Carry: Jacky "EternalEnvy" Mao (c)
Mid: Weh "SingSing" Sing Yuen
Offlane: Pittner "bOne7" Armand
Support: Kurtis "Aui_2000" Ling
Support: Johan "pieliedie" Åström


Pieliedie is the captain of Speed for the record.

(I thought it was EE as well for the longest time)

Firebatgyro
Dec 3, 2010
Its going to be interesting to see what changes Alliance make if they get blown up again at Starladder next weekend. At this point I'd put Navi and Fnatic as fairly heavy favorites against them, and Sigma are probably even.

Equilibrium
Mar 19, 2003

by exmarx

Firebatgyro posted:

Just a heads up, Speed are all home from China and don't plan on going back because they all hated it there.

This is good because 6 months without aui, EE, or sing's streams would have sucked a whole lot.

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Firebatgyro posted:

Its going to be interesting to see what changes Alliance make if they get blown up again at Starladder next weekend. At this point I'd put Navi and Fnatic as fairly heavy favorites against them, and Sigma are probably even.

I had the same feeling, but the overall post-TI3 stats don't look like there are any heavy favourites against Alliance as such. If anything I think Alliance has a very large tendency to lose games that really matter at the moment.

At any rate an update on that is that there will be no roster changes (probably wise), but that probably means position or drafting/calling responsibility changes.

Reoxygenation
Dec 8, 2010

if wishes were fishes fuck you this is my pie

Firebatgyro posted:

Its going to be interesting to see what changes Alliance make if they get blown up again at Starladder next weekend. At this point I'd put Navi and Fnatic as fairly heavy favorites against them, and Sigma are probably even.

Navi has a good chance of winning it, but we all know what happens when Fnatic makes it to a grand final :v:

I say that but Navi might do some weird poo poo to. I think it all depends on what Alliance does at this point I think


e: I missed that part about LGD.int in the OP, didn't they just straight up disband according to Black?

OHOHSEVEN
Jan 21, 2013

"Bond...James Bond."

Reoxygenation posted:

Navi has a good chance of winning it, but we all know what happens when Fnatic makes it to a grand final :v:

I say that but Navi might do some weird poo poo to. I think it all depends on what Alliance does at this point I think


e: I missed that part about LGD.int in the OP, didn't they just straight up disband according to Black?

Yea LGD.int disbanded and Black might be going to Korea? Fnatic plays so well but they always seem to choke when it matters.

A Magical Lamp
Aug 16, 2010

OHOHSEVEN posted:

Yea LGD.int disbanded and Black might be going to Korea? Fnatic plays so well but they always seem to choke when it matters.

To be fair they did just get to the finals of a pretty big tournament with multiple standins.

Firebatgyro
Dec 3, 2010

Nikolaos posted:

To be fair they did just get to the finals of a pretty big tournament with multiple standins.

They get to the finals of every tournament lately. They just always lose.

A Magical Lamp
Aug 16, 2010

Firebatgyro posted:

They get to the finals of every tournament lately. They just always lose.

It's improvement!

Ragingsheep
Nov 7, 2009
You listed LGD.Int but not TongFu?

Not that it matters that much, there's going to be a whole bunch of roster changes after 31st of Jan.

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Fnatic is the 2nd best team in the world.
If only we knew who the best was.

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Firebatgyro posted:

Its going to be interesting to see what changes Alliance make if they get blown up again at Starladder next weekend.

In fact, I'll call it now: They are switching EGM to the offlane, making Bulldog play support. Bulldogs offlane pool has been punished badly in 6.79, and he has trouble staying effective. EGM seems flexible and all-around excellent at the game, and a more impactful role may serve him well.

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
Bulldog is one of the best offlaners in terms of getting farm while having incredible map awareness. I think he just has to get better at other heroes instead of changing him into a roaming support guy or something, which I'm not sure if he can even do at a competitive level.

No Safe Word
Feb 26, 2005

Excuse me where is Team Zephyr in the OP??

No Safe Word fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Jan 10, 2014

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010
Dear god, that picture is literally esports.jpg

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
The Malaysian tourney has actually been pretty good the past few days I've been watching it. They have been playing games during the morning hours EST but I don't know what their full schedule is

http://www.twitch.tv/dotatalktv2

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy
Is there a thread anywhere for actually getting into competitive dotes a la the TF2 one? Probably some way off playing with anyone but mates as I'm hilariously scrub-tier but I never see anyone on SA talking about playing outside of normal matchmaking.

Skeletome
Feb 4, 2011

Tell them about the tournament!

^ you'll never be good enough

Baron FU
Apr 3, 2009

mfcrocker posted:

Is there a thread anywhere for actually getting into competitive dotes a la the TF2 one? Probably some way off playing with anyone but mates as I'm hilariously scrub-tier but I never see anyone on SA talking about playing outside of normal matchmaking.

If you have to ask other people about playing professionaly in Dota 2 you aren't good enough. The standard Dota 2 thread is fine for everything else.

If you are serious about getting a team I think now is the time to impress lower tier teams and go for a 6k MMR in solo queue. This might be a way in for very skilled players without a solid team.

I also don't think it's reasonable to compare TF2 and Dota 2 as competitive games. TF2 has a fraction of everything Dota 2 has, that includes lan events, sponsorship money, teams, tournaments, viewers as well as overall playercount.

Baron FU fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Jan 10, 2014

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

RedHotKick posted:

^ you'll never be good enough

Most of the guys playing at the top level were children when Warcraft III came out, and have been playing Dota for their entire trip to adulthood. I was already n0tail's age before Dota was created. :sweatdrop:

You could always get some guys and join IXDL or something. It's not going to get you sponsorships and invited to The International, but if you just like arranged games instead of pub stomps, there you go.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Craptacular! posted:

You could always get some guys and join IXDL or something. It's not going to get you sponsorships and invited to The International, but if you just like arranged games instead of pub stomps, there you go.

There's also this: http://www.joindota.com/en/news/14759-joindota-league-global,-for-everyone

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Baron FU posted:

I also don't think it's reasonable to compare TF2 and Dota 2 as competitive games. TF2 has a fraction of everything Dota 2 has, that includes lan events, sponsorship money, teams, tournaments, viewers as well as overall playercount.

Yet somehow very little in the way of lower level stuff, whereas there's loads of amateur leagues for TF2 :smith:

Anyway, thanks for the responses - didn't realise it was quite so pro-focused. That JoinDOTA league looks ideal though.

mfcrocker fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Jan 10, 2014

Asuron
Nov 27, 2012
To be honest I'm hoping Valve implement a similar system to Warcraft 3 where they have monthly tournaments with the prizes being high value items or something along those lines. It's one thing to do scrims in IXDL or stuff like that, but you really need a competitive environment to really figure out what you need to do to improve as a team and for anyone that's not a pro or aren't friends with pro players there are really no options available.

Wezlar
May 13, 2005



mfcrocker posted:

Yet somehow very little in the way of lower level stuff, whereas there's loads of amateur leagues for TF2 :smith:

Anyway, thanks for the responses - didn't realise it was quite so pro-focused. That JoinDOTA league looks ideal though.

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/news/26485-espl-launches-weekly-amateur-tournaments
http://nadota.com/secs/

Those are a couple other tournament series you can get into as an amateur. Just find some friends to play with and sign up!

Baron FU
Apr 3, 2009

mfcrocker posted:

Yet somehow very little in the way of lower level stuff, whereas there's loads of amateur leagues for TF2 :smith:

Anyway, thanks for the responses - didn't realise it was quite so pro-focused. That JoinDOTA league looks ideal though.

The ranked matchmaking system "is" the lower level competitive play in dota 2. You even start to meet pro-players when you get to a certain rating!

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

mfcrocker posted:

Yet somehow very little in the way of lower level stuff, whereas there's loads of amateur leagues for TF2 :smith:

Little recurring cups are everywhere. In Europe, I know JoinDota also sometimes has an Eizo Cup and every month has BigPoint Battle. The first few rounds involve hundreds of teams. Smaller pro teams that get invited to but don't usually win the premiere tournaments in their region show up in these things too, so if you make it to the finals you probably won't face Alliance, but you may find Mouz or 4FC or Speed or something.

EDIT: Like, for instance, here's a recurring cup currently in registration mode where the 1st place prize is $800USD. Scroll down and you'll see Poseidon won the last season so even if you just want to play online for your $220 share the competition is still somewhat real at the end.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Jan 10, 2014

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Baron FU posted:

The ranked matchmaking system "is" the lower level competitive play in dota 2. You even start to meet pro-players when you get to a certain rating!

I just prefer something a bit more organised I guess! :shobon:

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



mfcrocker posted:

I just prefer something a bit more organised I guess! :shobon:

Then you either want TMM/group ranked or one of the numerous beer league options mentioned above.

Meat Recital
Mar 26, 2009

by zen death robot
EternalEnvy made a long post on Team Liquid on how to get in to the pro scene and how to make money playing Dota. It's kind of old though.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=385238

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Kyrosiris posted:

Then you either want TMM/group ranked or one of the numerous beer league options mentioned above.

Yeah, definitely gonna have a poke around my friends and see if I can put together a team for scrub-tier joinDOTA. There's a week left for signups so it may be worth me throwing up a thread.

Meat Recital posted:

EternalEnvy made a long post on Team Liquid on how to get in to the pro scene and how to make money playing Dota. It's kind of old though.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=385238

I'd be stunned if I ever made a penny from dotes ;)

extra stout
Feb 24, 2005

ISILDUR's ERR

Craptacular! posted:

Most of the guys playing at the top level were children when Warcraft III came out, and have been playing Dota for their entire trip to adulthood. I was already n0tail's age before Dota was created. :sweatdrop:

You could always get some guys and join IXDL or something. It's not going to get you sponsorships and invited to The International, but if you just like arranged games instead of pub stomps, there you go.

Everyone here has been eating food and drinking water since birth. Please go sign up to challenge Joey Chestnuts and the Japanese guy who always wins at one of those disgusting hot dog eating contests and make sure they film it and youtube the film.

edit

I replied to the wrong guy but I'm too dumb to fix it. Alliance are the best team and will win a lot more dollars again once they find a way to make split push Dota win again, or play regular Dota more with Bulldog learning new heroes.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440562

TeamLiquid just posted their Awards for Dota in 2013. Best team, Best Player, that sort of stuff.

Taffer
Oct 15, 2010


n0tail isn't listed as best support, that list is bullshit

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Meat Recital
Mar 26, 2009

by zen death robot
Winter's cool, but caster of the year? Huh. Fy is another surprise, even if he deserves it.

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