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Oh hey, Overlord. I got into this game after watching the Freelance Astronauts play it. I've got the other two on Steam - I should probably get playing those.
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I picked up this game on Steam a couple of years ago, but I seem to have some kind of ....well, unique issue with the game. For some reason, it takes 2-3 minutes to load anything. So area transitions: 2 minutes. Need to pop back to the tower: 2 minutes. Need to go to the pause menu: 2 minutes. It was infuriating, but as far as I can tell, I'm the only person in existence who's had the issue. I just didn't have the patience to play past the first area with that, but it was really too bad, because the game seemed fun. And now Smite can play it for me, so it all works out I guess.
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Jan 16, 2014 05:39
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Cauchemar posted:Me neither. Game definitely has some unfortunate control quirks. You can't send minions past a guard marker without assigning them to it by accident and you can't call back minions of a particular type without wiping out your other minion's guard posts. The lack of map and level set-up is kind of confusing and seems reminiscent of a n64 era game more than anything. Swarming stuff with minions is pretty timeless, though.
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Jan 16, 2014 07:17
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Technically speaking, you solved Spree's food problem anyway: fewer living villagers means more food to go round!
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Jan 16, 2014 09:12
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RoadCrewWorker posted:Man this game has aged pretty drat well. I vaguely remember the difficulty getting quite dickish later on, but at least for now the game actually remembers that it's more about watching your goofy minions clowning around and smashing every object in sight instead of frame perfect action combat interspersed with having to run back and farm another 30 minions for the next attempt. 
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Jan 16, 2014 12:33
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Boss time! Overlord, Episode 4 - Ever a Glutton Also, we end up with two 'rare' pieces of loot in this update. Two lucky minions get to lead the pack with a huge armor (crown) and damage (golden fork) upgrade. Here they are!  We are doing commentary for part 5 later on tonight, but if anyone comes up with good names for these two we'll roll with it for as long as they keep on minioning. The upgrade is substantial and won't get replaced by anything for a long while, so it is on them until they die. Hopefully, they will last a while! I will try to be careful with minions that have unique stuff but it is a futile effort. Smite fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Jan 18, 2014 |
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Jan 18, 2014 20:06
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:Technically speaking, you solved Spree's food problem anyway: fewer living villagers means more food to go round! Even in the midst of the famine, they still have an endless supply of sheep. They could just eat the sheep.
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Jan 18, 2014 20:12
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Smite posted:We are doing commentary for part 5 later on tonight, but if anyone comes up with good names for these two we'll roll with it for as long as they keep on minioning. The upgrade is substantial and won't get replaced by anything for a long while, so it is on them until they die. Hopefully, they will last a while! I will try to be careful with minions that have unique stuff but it is a futile effort. Obviously they're Starsky and Hutch.
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Jan 18, 2014 20:14
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A_Raving_Loon posted:Even in the midst of the famine, they still have an endless supply of sheep. Also the pumpkins and the wheat fields.
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Jan 18, 2014 20:40
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Manatee Cannon posted:Also the pumpkins and the wheat fields. They mention at some point that the harvest won't be in for months and also won't be enough to cover their needs; they seem to re-populate even faster than the sheep.
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Jan 18, 2014 20:50
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Archimedes for the crown and Prong for the fork.
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Jan 18, 2014 21:08
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Man, I never even knew about that equipment because I never had a minion survive that second phase. Too bad you can't resurrect your minions in the first game though since you're probably gonna lose those guys to something stupid like drowning in a puddle of water.
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Jan 18, 2014 21:18
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SovietPotatoe posted:Man, I never even knew about that equipment because I never had a minion survive that second phase. Too bad you can't resurrect your minions in the first game though since you're probably gonna lose those guys to something stupid like drowning in a puddle of water.
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Jan 18, 2014 22:17
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Nihilarian posted:I thought blues could resurrect them?
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Jan 18, 2014 22:18
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Yes, one of my favorite features of Overlord 2 is support for named, leveled-up minions that can be recovered on castle visits. It adds some depth to the pack following you around. The horde and the morality system are greatly improved in the sequel.
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Jan 18, 2014 22:23
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Whenever I fight Melvin, the first thing I do is sweep my minions around the perimeter of the room and smash all the furniture. That way, when phase 2 comes around, I have more room to maneuver and I don't have to worry about my minions getting distracted by breakable objects. As for the minions, I don't have an opinion on the crown guy, but the one with the fork needs to be Alton Brown. Smite posted:Yes, one of my favorite features of Overlord 2 is support for named, leveled-up minions that can be recovered on castle visits. It adds some depth to the pack following you around. The horde and the morality system are greatly improved in the sequel. Okay now I really need to play this game.
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Jan 18, 2014 22:54
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The subtle differences between the Browns and the Reds is a really cool detail that has gone by the wayside in recent large games. I can imagine picking up equipment like the Fork or the Crown with minions other than the Brown ones would be disappointing.
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Jan 19, 2014 01:15
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Blue Ghost posted:The subtle differences between the Browns and the Reds is a really cool detail that has gone by the wayside in recent large games. I can imagine picking up equipment like the Fork or the Crown with minions other than the Brown ones would be disappointing. Other minion types can pick up equipment, however that equipment will not show up on anyone other than Browns. It's very disappointing.
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Jan 19, 2014 01:30
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Iron Chitlin posted:Other minion types can pick up equipment, however that equipment will not show up on anyone other than Browns. It's very disappointing. I never saw any colour other than a brown pick up a unique weapon or hat; I honestly think that Browns get first pick because they can beat up all the other minions when they're clumped together and all.
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Jan 19, 2014 02:44
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Glad to see an LP of this, I don't think I have the time to play through it again myself.
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Jan 19, 2014 03:57
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Seems the Steam version hates my keyboard. I tried a controller and can't keep focus on the spawns. Seems my pre-Steam version allowed you to keep your magic for arena fights, once. There may be a large increase in peasant corpses as well, since I don't remember Spree looking like a graveyard. Minions love removing their gear as there might be durability. Going for the "canon" ending means I can't kill friendlies like that bard. Such a dick move can be bypassed by going alone. My two special minions died immediately inside the castle. I did some sequence breaking in the slave camp and that autosave triggers at the spot where minions would have grabbed that crane. I skipped killing the troll and did not advance where Gnarl mentions the crane.
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Jan 19, 2014 08:34
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Sel Nar posted:I never saw any colour other than a brown pick up a unique weapon or hat; I honestly think that Browns get first pick because they can beat up all the other minions when they're clumped together and all. Browns are the best looters, anyway, to where I was selecting their group specifically for it. They absorb the most loot, show it off the best and even break boxes faster than the other types. The game seems to assign individual minions to each crate, so having reds in the mix will often leave them fireballing the wall forever because they don't realize they can't hit the box and blues will be sitting there punching barrels for ages after the browns cleared theirs. Been working through Overlord II and it looks like they thankfully fixed that.
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Jan 19, 2014 09:09
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Alien Arcana posted:Whenever I fight Melvin, the first thing I do is sweep my minions around the perimeter of the room and smash all the furniture. That way, when phase 2 comes around, I have more room to maneuver and I don't have to worry about my minions getting distracted by breakable objects. The resurrection part in 2 is really really terrible, unless they addressed it in a patch. Once you get a hundred dead you'll be looking through a list of them one by one trying to find the good guy.
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Jan 19, 2014 10:43
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Scalding Coffee posted:I can't kill friendlies like that bard. You have a little bit of leniency with the perfect good rating because there are obvious do-gooder choices you can do to reduce your corruption; a total of like 12% can be restored. Giving the food back was one of them. That being said, I didn't know he counted as a friendly, that's annoying.
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Jan 19, 2014 10:53
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Going through the GOG version of the game myself, I can safely say that he isn't. I didn't actually mind being one percent corrupted, so I fireballed his rear end. but I didn't get the message you get when you kill someone 'friendly'.
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Jan 19, 2014 12:32
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Actually, the canon overlord can be as corrupt as 80%, there are just two Evil options you can't pick. One of them I refuse to pick anyway, and the other I refuse to not pick, so it balances out.
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Jan 19, 2014 12:34
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So when you return your minions to a hive so you can summon more of a different colour, do they retain their equipment or is it functionally the same as sacrificing them for health/mana?
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Jan 19, 2014 13:02
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Minions are persistent. Until you get them horribly killed, of course.
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Jan 19, 2014 13:33
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Overlord is in such a unique place in my heart. Got it originally thinking it'd be a little like dungeon keeper. Sorta was sorta wasn't. The game was totally unique and sadly not many people actually cared about it.
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Jan 19, 2014 15:48
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The funny thing is that i'm pretty sure i played the first game to completion and the second one for a number of hours, and yet the rolling fatty boss was the only thing i remembered besides "hey this was a pretty great concept, this should be used more". I'm certain this LP will be a constant chain of "oh right, this part rings a bell" moments for me.
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Jan 19, 2014 15:52
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Smite posted:You have a little bit of leniency with the perfect good rating because there are obvious do-gooder choices you can do to reduce your corruption; a total of like 12% can be restored. Giving the food back was one of them. That being said, I didn't know he counted as a friendly, that's annoying. Mist Agent posted:Going through the GOG version of the game myself, I can safely say that he isn't. I didn't actually mind being one percent corrupted, so I fireballed his rear end. but I didn't get the message you get when you kill someone 'friendly'.
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Jan 19, 2014 17:29
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Since I went for the opposite playthrough, I never heard the "Gluttonous Overlard" title and that's a thing of beauty  I can't wait to see what other fun titles you get in a full corruption run.
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Jan 20, 2014 04:50
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Hey, Overlord! My ex (very much a non-gamer) adored these games. Underneath the humor, this game has a pretty clever story with an interesting twist. I always compare the Overlord games with Brutal Legend in my head; Both are console-native RTS-hybrids, but while Brutal Legend has the better setting, Overlord has a better plot and controls. Also, the Overlord's character design cribs a lot from Sauron from the intro to Fellowship of the Rings. As such, I vote for the Mace when it comes time to gear up.
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Jan 20, 2014 20:30
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Can the Overlord jump? It will be strange to watch a Smite LP where he's not jumping and manouvering throgh impossibly tiny gaps very quickly. Your Rogue Legacy LP spoiled me. This looks like a fun game, will be watching for sure.
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Jan 20, 2014 22:59
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I do like how charming these games are, but I only really played the demo and didn't really get into the gameplay. I'm really enjoying this LP so far, though.
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Jan 20, 2014 23:08
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Have another roast pig Melvin... have two... you're a hero now.SoylentG posted:Hey, Overlord! My ex (very much a non-gamer) adored these games. Underneath the humor, this game has a pretty clever story with an interesting twist. I always compare the Overlord games with Brutal Legend in my head; Both are console-native RTS-hybrids, but while Brutal Legend has the better setting, Overlord has a better plot and controls. Also the overlord won't jump (outside of cutscenes), that is undignified.
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Jan 20, 2014 23:12
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He also doesn't perform any combat maneuvres other than swinging his weapon in a three hit combo. Parrying is for chumps who don't have crazy little goblins to take the hit for them!
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Jan 20, 2014 23:24
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Did you see Sauron do crazy backflips and stunts in the movies? No. Because he doesn't need to drat you. Only pathetic elves try to pull that kind of poo poo, and they end up with a mace planted in their face. On a completely unrelated topic, I really hate the elves in these games (much moreso in the sequel though. drat faeries!
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Jan 21, 2014 01:07
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SoylentG posted:Hey, Overlord! My ex (very much a non-gamer) adored these games. Underneath the humor, this game has a pretty clever story with an interesting twist. I always compare the Overlord games with Brutal Legend in my head; Both are console-native RTS-hybrids, but while Brutal Legend has the better setting, Overlord has a better plot and controls. Yeah, the story in this actually works pretty well. I remember not liking the second game's story quite as much. Having watched the LP of Brutal Legend, I can see the similarities. Though your minions tend to follow you a lot more closely in Overlord than your groupies/troops in Brutal Legend. If you aren't secretly hating elves, they're not written right.
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Overlord, Episode 5 - Subquests (of Evil!) The Raising Hell expansion content makes an initial appearance here because I have it installed, but you could also install it after the game is done and play it if you want. I'll be doing it all at the end of the game in any case.
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