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Marvel removing Moore's name is interesting. I wondered about that, since my local comic shop's owners were hyping the book saying it's some of Moore's best writing, which confused me since his name was nowhere to be found. Been an interesting read, and Moore's deconstruction theme should keep things engaging. DJ Fuckboy Supreme fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Jan 19, 2014 |
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NotAnArtist posted:Marvel removing Moore's name is interesting. I wondered about that, since my local comic shop's owners were hyping the book saying it's some of Moore's best writing, which confused me since his name was nowhere to be found. They don't want a giant snake to appear in the Marvel offices and eat Matt Fraction.
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Jan 19, 2014 01:34
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NotAnArtist posted:Marvel removing Moore's name is interesting. I wondered about that, since my local comic shop's owners were hyping the book saying it's some of Moore's best writing, which confused me since his name was nowhere to be found. Moore doesn't wish for his name to be involved so Marvel is respecting his wishes. I'm not sure if that just applies to MiracleMan or if it is because Moore is done with the Big Two. On a side not, I haven't bought a floppy in many years but I broke down and decided that I can't trade-wait this. I loved the first issue and can't wait to see where this goes.
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Jan 20, 2014 16:09
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The Moore having his named removed is a small bit of a story of his bigger issues with the Big 2. Basically after all his trouble with DC Moore had sworn off ever dealing with any of the big comic companies. Joe Quesada when he was EiC of Marvel flew to England to talk to Moore face to face and swear that Marvel will never mess him around the way DC did. They were to work together and get more Moore books on shelves and then the very next thing of Moore's that Marvel published was a Captain Britain reprint and there was a printing error and Moore's name was removed from the credits of the book. Which despite being an actual printing error Moore swore off ever dealing with Marvel since if you can't believe the EiC talking to you face to face why bother. Despite all of this Marvel are doing their best to stand by his wishes and not bother him with MiracleMan stuff.
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Jan 20, 2014 16:44
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Waterhaul posted:The Moore having his named removed is a small bit of a story of his bigger issues with the Big 2. My big takeaway from the first issue and this is that Joe Quasada is a cool dude.
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Jan 20, 2014 16:52
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Yeah people like to poo poo talk Quesada a lot because of some character choices he instated that they don't like but the guy seems like a really genuine guy and is easily the best thing to happen to Marvel in years.
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Jan 20, 2014 17:04
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One thing I'm still unclear about: I know they're leaving his name off the book, and I know the legal situation was a huge quagmire, but did Marvel have to still get permission from Alan Moore to do the reprints or does someone else own those rights?
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Jan 20, 2014 17:08
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:One thing I'm still unclear about : I know they're leaving his name off the book, and I know the legal situation was a huge quagmire, but did Marvel have to still get permission from Alan Moore to do the reprints or does someone else own those rights? The way the MiracleMan rights ended up being sorted, which i'm sure was a lot to do with Disney lawyers was that Mike Anglo had always owned all of the rights to the character and everything else was people claiming ownership which wasn't true. Here's what Moore has to say on it. quote:PÓM: OK. The only other thing about your previous work is, do you keep up with what’s going on with the Marvelman Miracleman debacle? source
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Jan 20, 2014 17:13
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This has all been pretty informative, thanks!
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Jan 20, 2014 19:05
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So now that Mick Anglo has passed on, where does the money go?
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Jan 20, 2014 19:43
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coconono posted:So now that Mick Anglo has passed on, where does the money go? His estate, one assumes.
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Jan 20, 2014 19:47
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:His estate, one assumes. not sure what the estate laws and taxes are like in the UK but in the US that translates to the government.
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Jan 20, 2014 19:49
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No one wants to talk about issue #2? My LCBS ran out so I will be waiting until next week to pick up my copy. 
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Jan 30, 2014 17:27
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Happy Hippo posted:No one wants to talk about issue #2? My LCBS ran out so I will be waiting until next week to pick up my copy.
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Jan 30, 2014 19:23
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drat, that's unfortunate. Makes me grateful for the fact that my local store's owners are gigantic Moore fans. Without the thread's activity I wouldn't have known the second book was out, thanks.
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Jan 30, 2014 20:08
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Flameingblack posted:For the second week in a row my LCS didn't even bother ordering the title, so I'm just going to wait for the trade to come out and get a digital copy since the price is pretty steep for a weekly comic. I'm pretty sure its shipping twice a month, not weekly. For a while, at least.
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Jan 30, 2014 22:09
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Happy Hippo posted:I'm pretty sure its shipping twice a month, not weekly. For a while, at least.  Hopefully the trade isn't something silly like $35 or something since the price of the comics themselves are pretty steep.
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Jan 30, 2014 22:30
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So this is my first time going through the run, and I'm really liking it a lot so far. I know Moore's been good at getting across a sense of dread just based on his later work, but the atmosphere in this so far really stands out. There's almost no sense of joy or catharsis, and I'm not saying any of this as a negative. I'm loving the feel of the book, and while it may not necessarily be the newest atmosphere for a writer to evoke, it's incredibly executed here.
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Jan 30, 2014 23:04
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So is there a reason they printed the stories 3, 5, 4 in this issue besides just to make the narrative read better? Also, while it's neat to have the old Marvelman original backups, wow, I just cannot even enjoy them from a old cheesy Silver Age standpoint. They just seem so bad even in comparison to their obvious inspiration, Captain Marvel. I like that the "Origin of Kid Marvelman" isn't an origin at all. It's just a box saying "Marvelman gave this kid powers!" and then Kid Marvelman beating the hell out of some crooked cops.
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Jan 30, 2014 23:50
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I had forgotten how quickly the story takes off.
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Jan 31, 2014 01:04
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Happy Hippo posted:I'm pretty sure its shipping twice a month, not weekly. For a while, at least. I'm like 90% sure that it's just this month and maybe next.
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Jan 31, 2014 06:27
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I've got to wait another damned month for number three to be released, ugh. I've been enjoying the title so far, and I'm really grateful that the plot point I inadvertently spoiled foe myself on the wiki page was revealed in-comic in the second issue. I was a little concerned with the way the plot is being advanced in the second issue, but it does a good job of foreshadowing future events without breaking the overall flow.
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Jan 31, 2014 08:16
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TwoPair posted:Also, while it's neat to have the old Marvelman original backups, wow, I just cannot even enjoy them from a old cheesy Silver Age standpoint. They just seem so bad even in comparison to their obvious inspiration, Captain Marvel. I like that the "Origin of Kid Marvelman" isn't an origin at all. It's just a box saying "Marvelman gave this kid powers!" and then Kid Marvelman beating the hell out of some crooked cops. I did end up quite enjoying the origin of Marvelman story, I think because its cheery depiction of superpower-giving atomic weapons gives it a sinister edge in hindsight.
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Jan 31, 2014 11:12
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These are new colors on the series right? It looks way too crisp for it to be a copy of the original. I might just not have much experience with reprints though since my "oldest" books are V for Vendetta and Watchmen which look kind of bad because DC doesn't care.
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Jan 31, 2014 21:14
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Len posted:These are new colors on the series right? It looks way too crisp for it to be a copy of the original. I might just not have much experience with reprints though since my "oldest" books are V for Vendetta and Watchmen which look kind of bad because DC doesn't care. 
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Jan 31, 2014 21:45
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While I can understand why they're there, I can't help but feel that the extra classic MM stories are just driving the books price up. I am glad how fast the book is moving though.
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Jan 31, 2014 23:02
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It's worth mentioning that the vintage story is drawn by Don Lawrence, of later well-deserved fame surrounding Trigian Empire and Storm. He had a strong influence on UK artists like Brian Bolland and Dave Gibbons, which brings things full circle in a way.
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Jan 31, 2014 23:19
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Well, I had no idea this was happening and was just yesterday looking online and lamenting the cost of the original three Miracleman trades, so hell yeah.
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NotAnArtist posted:I wondered about that, since my local comic shop's owners were hyping the book saying it's some of Moore's best writing, which confused me since his name was nowhere to be found. I kinda suffered from this a little bit. I'm only just getting back into comics as a whole, and I never really was that knowledgeable about them previously, so after hearing the hype about MiracleMan I went and picked it up anyway and was left feeling a little confused as to if it even was Moore's stuff (due to the lack of credit). Glad I picked it up though, the old stuff is campy, but the first two proper issues has been awesome.
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So Issue 3 came out this week and I'm pretty surprised at how quickly Miracleman/Kid Miracle fought and we've moved onto the government attempting to deal with supers and the whole baby stuff. I'm not quite sure where Moore is coming from but it's a quick change of pace from issue 1.
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I gotta say I'm honestly really impressed with the story so far. I was the world's biggest cynic going into this after seeing so much praise heaped upon Marvel/Miracleman for years now and I thought there was no way it could live up to the hype. But... well it pretty much has. Oh and that one panel of "I'm pregnant and the baby isn't yours it's Miracleman's" "What?" is comedy gold.
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I think when considering pace in Miracleman early on it's important to remember that when it was originally serialised in Warrior it was in smaller bits.
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I didn't even know they were doing this  Are they going to be reprinting everything? Even the Apocrypha stuff?
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Gorilla Salad posted:I didn't even know they were doing this Wrong thread, bro. But yeah, they plan to reprint everything and some new stuff by Neil Gaiman once that's done.
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twistedmentat posted:They don't want a giant snake to appear in the Marvel offices and eat Matt Fraction. Yes they do.
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Mind Loving Owl posted:I think when considering pace in Miracleman early on it's important to remember that when it was originally serialised in Warrior it was in smaller bits. Yeah, every issue has, like, three actual issues right? We've gone through a year of Miracleman already, I think. Also I giggled on the baby thing. Then it hit like a monster truck. This issue was an amazing way to tackle secret identities.
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Mar 2, 2014 05:06
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I loved Mike Moran's little deduction of Johnny's true nature.
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Yeah, every issue has, like, three actual issues right? We've gone through a year of Miracleman already, I think. But the timing's a bit off, we're only through Miracleman #2 as it was originally released.
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Mar 2, 2014 05:31
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Why isn't this thread bumped? Get your Miracleman on, fools.
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So where is the reprint up too story wise?
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