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I dunno, man, I think Moore recognized it has flaws, considering MM outright states it.
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Soooooo I just finished the latest issue. I know more is coming, specifically with Gaiman, but the book could have ended there, with ''we fixed everything and now our only enemy is ennui,'' no? It's about the worst ''happy'' ending I could think of. Edit: I understand that the book DID end Moore's run, I just don't know where else it could all go. DJ Fuckboy Supreme fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Mar 10, 2015 |
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Mar 10, 2015 04:59
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I also just finished the issue a few minutes ago. I was wondering where this book was going after this issue after they claimed to have solved everything. So I wasn't surprised to see that this was the end of The Original Author's run. I just wonder what Gaimen did with it, and it'll be interesting to see how he can finish his story. Does anyone know when he is going to start introducing his new issues? Like how many months?
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Endless Mike posted:I dunno, man, I think Moore recognized it has flaws, considering MM outright states it. Yeah, I don't think he would have handed Gaiman the reins if he thought the world MiracleMan made was a true utopia, what stories could you even tell if that were the case? It's just, in his view, the logical conclusion to a character like Miracleman existing in our flawed world and trying to help.
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The one weird thing I thought in the whole course of the issue was when Miracleman told the British PM how they were going to restructure government/etc and acted like kind of a dick about it, Miraclewoman goes "Hey Mike don't be a dick", yet only a couple of pages later she's the one going "gently caress their free will we're going to make Earth great". Other than that it was... alright. It was certainly Alan Moore as gently caress though, and some of the ideas were certainly pretty dumb ("We'll just legalize all drugs and drug problems will disappear! Wait, strike that, we'll have people get so bombed out of their skulls, children will want to grow up to be  loving really?
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Mar 10, 2015 07:40
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TwoPair posted:The one weird thing I thought in the whole course of the issue was when Miracleman told the British PM how they were going to restructure government/etc and acted like kind of a dick about it, Miraclewoman goes "Hey Mike don't be a dick", yet only a couple of pages later she's the one going "gently caress their free will we're going to make Earth great". Miraclewoman's point wasn't about their free will, which is immaterial, it was about not terrifying and bullying these people that are so beneath them. You tell a child what to do, but you don't make him feel lovely about it. They're supposed to be better than petty political grudges, as justified as they might be (Thatcher was a monster).
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Mar 10, 2015 09:05
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TwoPair posted:Other than that it was... alright. It was certainly Alan Moore as gently caress though, and some of the ideas were certainly pretty dumb ("We'll just legalize all drugs and drug problems will disappear! Wait, strike that, we'll have people get so bombed out of their skulls, children will want to grow up to be
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Yeah, all utopias crafted by people who are halfway intelligent acknowledge that they have problems. It's not a happy ending, but an outcome to the events of the narrative. The biggest red flag is "Miracle Man" deciding that Mike is dead and that Miracle Man is something better. He's nuts, dude. Life is just an endless series of imperfect compromises. Look at the next utopia Moore ended with at DC, for example.
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Mar 10, 2015 18:29
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No, clearly Alan Moore is a big dummy who didn't think his story through, instead of a guy knowingly portraying an imperfect dramatic social change brought about by a weird alien hybrid.
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Mar 10, 2015 18:38
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Jack Gladney posted:Yeah, all utopias crafted by people who are halfway intelligent acknowledge that they have problems. It's not a happy ending, but an outcome to the events of the narrative. The biggest red flag is "Miracle Man" deciding that Mike is dead and that Miracle Man is something better. He's nuts, dude. Life is just an endless series of imperfect compromises. Look at the next utopia Moore ended with at DC, for example. Miracle Man didn't decide Mike was dead, Mike did. Did you not read the issue where that happened?
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Mar 11, 2015 04:17
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I really liked MM's ''buuuuuhhhhhhh why my wife no want perfection does not compute?''
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Mar 11, 2015 04:59
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Senor Candle posted:Miracle Man didn't decide Mike was dead, Mike did. Did you not read the issue where that happened? Well, we are getting this part of the story from a somewhat unreliable narrator, to say the least. He's such a benevolent god, to choose never to bring him back to life, too. I think it works well with either reading, honestly.
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Here's a thought, does Miracleman avoid Norse mythology enthusiasts like the plague considering his weakness? Also as for the super baby thing, what annoyed me was the fact that like so many super intelligent children in fiction, Winter just comes off as annoying. Lurdiak posted:Miraclewoman's point wasn't about their free will, which is immaterial, it was about not terrifying and bullying these people that are so beneath them. You tell a child what to do, but you don't make him feel lovely about it. They're supposed to be better than petty political grudges, as justified as they might be (Thatcher was a monster). I like to think Mike voted labor and that kind of bled through to Miracleman. I also was giggling about the psychonaut thing, I refuse to believe when omnipotent super being is a viable career that any kid would want to grow up to be a meth head.
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