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Dude should have known better than to spec glass cannon wizard when he has no fighter to meatshield for him. Time to go hybrid. 
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I'm lost. What or who is a "cleaner"? I don't understand why glasses-guy needs them killed. Also, our hero should've known better. He put too much into INT when he should've been working on a more even toon-build. Really. Now, he's going to pay the price. Fortunately, all he needs to do is train, train, train. He can't re-spec, but at least he can spend the next few levels buffing up. Remember the beat-up old bat? I initially figured he's be a bludgeon-er.
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Mar 25, 2014 21:01
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Dan7el posted:I'm lost. What or who is a "cleaner"? I don't understand why glasses-guy needs them killed. He might be able to respec. The greatest thing about his power is that the author can introduce just about anything game-related and it fits in just fine.
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Mar 25, 2014 21:08
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Dan7el posted:I'm lost. What or who is a "cleaner"? First thing I imagined when I read that was this  
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Mar 25, 2014 21:09
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Dan7el posted:I'm lost. What or who is a "cleaner"? I don't understand why glasses-guy needs them killed.
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Mar 25, 2014 21:10
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Squidster posted:I think Villain Dude is contracting them to kill all the low-level mobs in the area, forcing the protagonist to fight tougher opponents. It forces him to level faster, so he can heal Villain Dude's daughter faster. Both VD and Kung Fu Bro are on the same wavelength here. Nah, cleaners are basically assassins. They are being sent in to take care of Sung-Gong, presumably because he has made lots of enemies in his quest for a miracle. He doesn't have the time or energy to deal with large numbers of people, so he subcontracted the task out. The problem is, Sung-Gong seems weirdly uninterested in Jee-Han. So, these two weren't told that he isn't a threat and that they should leave him alone.
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Mar 25, 2014 21:17
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Squidster posted:I think Villain Dude is contracting them to kill all the low-level mobs in the area, forcing the protagonist to fight tougher opponents. It forces him to level faster, so he can heal Villain Dude's daughter faster. Both VD and Kung Fu Bro are on the same wavelength here. That doesn't make any sense. How do you construe 'cleaner', a term usually used to refer to hitmen and used in a similar context here, to mean 'generic monster'? But aside from that, the bigger issue with that interpretation is that Sunglasses is talking about killing all the cleaners, whatever they are, even up to 'class A' types that even Sunglasses might have trouble with. There's no way in hell that the protagonist could handle anything like that, much less something even stronger. Most likely, there's something Sunglasses is doing that might provoke interested parties to send assassins after him, and he wants them all out of his hair. Maybe whatever it is that he's been up to all this time is coming to fruition, I dunno.
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Mar 25, 2014 21:19
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Dan7el posted:I'm lost. What or who is a "cleaner"? I don't understand why glasses-guy needs them killed. He just needs his shield to cause damage as well. And he knows plenty of fighters anyway. He should really just join a clan and reap the benefits of clan specific equipment and martial arts abilities.
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Mar 25, 2014 21:23
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I initially thought it referred to people that would be coming after Jee-Han to steal his mana.
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Mar 25, 2014 21:24
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Cathair posted:That doesn't make any sense. How do you construe 'cleaner', a term usually used to refer to hitmen and used in a similar context here, to mean 'generic monster'? But aside from that, the bigger issue with that interpretation is that Sunglasses is talking about killing all the cleaners, whatever they are, even up to 'class A' types that even Sunglasses might have trouble with. There's no way in hell that the protagonist could handle anything like that, much less something even stronger. Yeah, you're probably right.
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Mar 25, 2014 21:29
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My first thought is that he was talking about people who "clean up" evidence of the Abyss so that normal people remain unaware of it. Whatever Hwan is doing it's somehow disruptive to how things are normally done so it seems that "officials" of some sort might be trying to stop him.
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Mar 25, 2014 21:47
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Dan7el posted:Also, our hero should've known better. He put too much into INT... I think someone called it earlier in the thread, but I definitely think the author is going to go for a meta-joke in that Jee-Han should've gone for a WIS build so he'd know about these pitfalls, but he doesn't have the WIS to think about that choice in the first place. Kind of a Catch-22. Obviously he's been playing too many MMOs and not enough Planescape: Torment.
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Mar 25, 2014 22:21
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Always max LUCK.
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Mar 25, 2014 22:37
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The translator is kinda dumb; Mez is the old-school term for CC, and it comes from EverQuest.
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Mar 25, 2014 23:02
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Obviously this is a "cleaner":
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Serious Frolicking posted:Nah, cleaners are basically assassins. They are being sent in to take care of Sung-Gong, presumably because he has made lots of enemies in his quest for a miracle. He doesn't have the time or energy to deal with large numbers of people, so he subcontracted the task out. The problem is, Sung-Gong seems weirdly uninterested in Jee-Han. So, these two weren't told that he isn't a threat and that they should leave him alone. Sung-Gong is probably uninterested because he's very into healing his daughter and hasn't realized that Jee-Han is why she got better. If he ever makes that connection Jee-Han had better be ready for a hell of a power-levelling session
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Mar 26, 2014 00:57
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Sunglasses could presumably get his hands on a mountain of high quality soul gems. Even that might not be enough for a cure, but it would presumably be enough to successfully manage her condition in perpetuity.
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Mar 26, 2014 01:10
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Shugojin posted:Sung-Gong is probably uninterested because he's very into healing his daughter and hasn't realized that Jee-Han is why she got better. If he ever makes that connection Jee-Han had better be ready for a hell of a power-levelling session I dunno, I think he at the very least suspects that Jee-Han had something to do with it. Hiring people to get rid of the cleaners may be to protect himself and his daughter without forcing him to waste time doing it himself, but it's also possible he's doing it to keep Jee-Han from getting killed before he can find out what the hell the kid is.
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Mar 26, 2014 01:47
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The cleaners could be going after his daughter, seeing as she has powers and is in a weakened state. Why? I dunno. To get back at Hwan Sung-Gon for something?
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Mar 26, 2014 02:01
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In the original, he calls them 청소부. This is really a generic term that could mean many occupation, all meaning "someone who cleans the place". It means a janitor (the ones you see in schools, public faculties, malls etc), a street sweeper, a housekeeper, or a cleaner. The comic leaves it really ambiguous at the moment what the context is, so it really is just speculation at this point.
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Mar 26, 2014 02:07
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Hm. Maybe it's something like the TYPE-MOON/Nasuverse... Guardians, I think it was? Those guys who function as the avatars of Gaea's self-defense mechanism. We had that plot dump talking about the universe self-correcting for people who do stuff out of the natural order, and all.
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Mar 26, 2014 02:16
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New Chapter Jee-han is pretty drat resourceful. And it seems he didn't failed his mom's quest
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Apr 1, 2014 05:15
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Why hasn't he gone book shopping yet?
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Apr 1, 2014 05:28
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I thought he'd do something like proclaim he needs to start grinding his ID Create, so he could stop time all he needs.
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Apr 1, 2014 05:44
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How can this be so interesting and compelling that it makes me come back to it time and time again, when it's just one continuous training arc?? It's great!
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DrSunshine posted:How can this be so interesting and compelling that it makes me come back to it time and time again, when it's just one continuous training arc?? It's great! Because most stories aren't about the training arc, so it's an unwelcome distraction? Meanwhile, we're all here to watch this nerd get more powers and also get super mage-swole.
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Apr 1, 2014 08:30
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Training arcs are absolutely not an unwelcome distraction. If anything, they're one of the only redeeming parts about any series. Training arcs forever. Literally. Give me a series that's just a dude training forever and developing new techniques, he doesn't even have to use them, just make them. I'd be on board for that so hard.
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Apr 1, 2014 08:58
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I dunno, very little happens in the gamer week after week, it is becoming quite uninteresting to me. If I wanted to see one dude spend unholy amounts of time leveling up and doing nothing else I would be playing Diablo III or whatever.
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trucutru posted:I dunno, very little happens in the gamer week after week, it is becoming quite uninteresting to me. If I wanted to see one dude spend unholy amounts of time leveling up and doing nothing else I would be playing Diablo III or whatever.
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It would be great if he was grinding everything he does even unintentionally. Like he's a grandmaster at walking or breathing.
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Dr_Amazing posted:It would be great if he was grinding everything he does even unintentionally. Like he's a grandmaster at walking or breathing. Breathing mastery achieved. You no longer need to breathe. Walking mastery achieved. You can now walk at 30km/h.
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Dr_Amazing posted:It would be great if he was grinding everything he does even unintentionally. Like he's a grandmaster at walking or breathing. Like the carp used to be in dwarf fortress.
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I got all excited when I saw there was a second update today, turns out its just a really really lovely april fools joke. Just skip #31 if you see it.
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WanderingMinstrel I posted:I got all excited when I saw there was a second update today, turns out its just a really really lovely april fools joke. Just skip #31 if you see it. God drat it these always screw up the manga reader on my tablet 
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I remember one manga that had like 4 different versions of a chapter available eventually. Only, every single one of those versions was the april fool's chapter. Replacements kept getting uploaded, but for some reason it was never the real one and this continued long after april 1st.
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Apr 1, 2014 20:50
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I've only ever seen one April's Fools scanlation that wasn't terrible. Yet somehow people insist on making them, as if they invented comedy.
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Apr 1, 2014 20:55
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HenryEx posted:I've only ever seen one April's Fools scanlation that wasn't terrible. Yet somehow people insist on making them, as if they invented comedy. Hey, we were thinking of the same one.
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HenryEx posted:I've only ever seen one April's Fools scanlation that wasn't terrible. Yet somehow people insist on making them, as if they invented comedy. Mahou-X could only pull this one off because A) they're pretty awesome and laid-back folks who don't take things too seriously, and B) their lead translator is a Hawaiian. 
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Chapter 31 Looks like he's making a bit more money now. Also, Sae-Young teasing him makes me laugh.
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KittyEmpress posted:Chapter 31  Jee-Han really is a reality-warper
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