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Umiapik posted:Are Sovereign Citizens the same guys as those Freemen on the Land, or are they a separate type of crazy? yes
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olylifter posted:This is insanely long for a non-Supreme Court level judgment (its 160 pages), but it covers everything you could ever possibly want to know about sovereign citizens and all the various offshoots. I sat down and read some 40 or 50 pages of this while bored at work one day. Its super interesting. Def worth reading.
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The Protagonist posted:I really appreciate that they all feel obligated to document their idiocy, if the record wasn't there I wouldn't be able to believe it. do they go over these and try to figure out what they did wrong? is it like game tapes?
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Bitchtard posted:do they go over these and try to figure out what they did wrong? See there right before the cop tazed you you needed to start yelling I'M UNDER DURESS and then everything would have been fine and the cop would be fired. It's okay though, we'll get em next time.
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Bitchtard posted:is there someone making money off these people yet? http://www.sovereignlife.com/about.html
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Jan 31, 2014 00:04
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What the gently caress is this business card poo poo that keeps showing up.
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Sovereign citizen bullshit aside, it's always a good idea to know your rights, and to know exactly what they are and are not allowed to do, when dealing with the police.
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They remind me of True Finns http://truefinns.tumblr.com/ quote:“The cops pulled me over and asked if I was carrying drugs and poo poo. gently caress you, I don’t use any. Suck my cock, cops. If you don’t stop loving with me, I’m coming at you with a bazooka. Bullshit talk doesn’t stop, it is stopped. gently caress you rear end in a top hat cops.”
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:I sat down and read some 40 or 50 pages of this while bored at work one day. Its super interesting. Def worth reading. Just been reading this. The judge manages to sneak a massive amount of dry humour into it: "... this category of litigant shares one other critical characteristic: they will only honour state, regulatory, contract, family, fiduciary, equitable, and criminal obligations if they feel like it. And typically, they don’t."
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Umiapik posted:Are Sovereign Citizens the same guys as those Freemen on the Land, or are they a separate type of crazy? They're pretty much the same; more obsessed with ships, birth certificates, the UCC and less concerned with embassies, international treaties, and the magna carta. Sovereign Citizen = "I DO NOT CONSENT. AM I UNDER ARREST." Freeman on the land = "I DO NOT ENJOINDER YOUR CONTRACT TO ARREST ME AND I AM BILLING YOU ONE BILLION DOLLARS FOR THIS CONVERSATION ACCORDING TO MY FEE SCHEDULE."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pika50e6l_Y this guy has to be loving around
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I think one of the strongest arguments for not allowing the constitution to be interpreted at will by any random snaggletoothed hayseed illiterate dipshit is the stuff the hayseed dipshits do right after interpreting the constitution
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myshl0ng posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pika50e6l_Y lol
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This Fedsmoker guy will end up on a dashcam video shooting a screaming cop in the face
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At a legal advice clinic once, I had a sovereign citizen client come in who was trying to get a judicial review for an administrative tribunal decision she lost. The reason she lost was because she refused to participate in the mandatory pre-hearing procedures because she believed they violated her freedom of association and, among other things, refused to sign anything without adding UNDER DURESS to it. The thing she was trying so hard to win? Wait for it... government disability benefits.
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Jan 31, 2014 00:17
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quote:Up until recently, an unlimited membership was $297. But with all the rapid changes taking place, and the accelerated loss of freedoms around the world, I decided to do something unprecedented - to open up SovereignLife to as many people as possible, for as little as possible.
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I want to blame communism for this but I am not sure how yet
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Pffft, and they say you can't buy anything with bitcoins.
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These guys are the worst, they go out of their way to get into legal trouble and ruin people's work days when in reality nobody gives a poo poo about their little crusade
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Bitchtard posted:Pffft, and they say you can't buy anything with bitcoins. Since you can't get your money out, it would be a pretty easy way to register people for that service as a "member". its not like anyone could trace the payment. See, this is why we cannot have nice things.
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does anyone have a link to the video of the old fat bald guy in a suit, sitting in a masterpiece-theater style room, and describing the whole freeman/maritime law thing? i know that's vague...
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I thought Sovereign Citizens was an America-only phenomenon, so it's cool to know it's also in Australia and Canada. I like that the Canada video seems like the most polite one, w/ the guy casually getting out of his car to get papers and the cop mostly warning about elk crossing the road at night 
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myshl0ng posted:They remind me of True Finns "gently caress you Social Democrats and lefties gently caress off or get beaten sue me niggers gently caress in the rear end look at the Yanks fall and commies and believers burn Fidel is bull nuke the USA. gently caress cop poo poo Jews go ahead make my day Hitrel was right the Aryan race rules make my day USA and Israel have to be bombed off the face of the earth viva Osama bin Laden. Germany best True Finns bull make my day." -Some Finnish dude
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Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:I thought Sovereign Citizens was an America-only phenomenon, so it's cool to know it's also in Australia and Canada. I do not consent, buddy
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evilpicard posted:I do not consent, buddy I have a friend who works for the Canadian embassy and I'm thinking of bugging her/my current office to find me a job in Canada for a few years because I just imagine they're a chill group in general.
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There's a lot of Latin in legal stuff. I wonder if we can teach these guys some cantrips or something. I mean, I have a book on Greco-Roman curse tablets with a chapters for legal help and amulets and poo poo, I might be able to put it to use, finally!
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It'd be funny if some sheriff in like Montana or something got tired of these guys and just immediately started deporting people who claimed not to be citizens/have no papers.
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do they even know what the magna carta is the comments on these videos are pretty good too
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Why do they keep asking police for business cards?
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I will agree with these guys to a point, Police should identify themselves when asked, warrant card and photo ID. But after that their line of logic just goes to poo poo. Business cards... really? Hand it to the cops in the videos, they all show incredible patience and restraint even though its obvious within the first 5 minutes they're dealing with manchildren
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Sappo569 posted:I will agree with these guys to a point, Police should identify themselves when asked, warrant card and photo ID. But after that their line of logic just goes to poo poo. Business cards... really? They're probably happy to finally be dealing with a crazy person that isn't drunk and stabby.
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Help Im Alive posted:Why do they keep asking police for business cards? Because the police are a state-funded corporation of thugs. It stands to reason that a corporation would supply its employees with business cards.
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Mymla posted:Because the police are a state-funded corporation of thugs. It stands to reason that a corporation would supply its employees with business cards. loving Poe's law right here.
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If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can p zzzzt AAUAUIIIIIGIEEEEEEEEEE
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Mymla posted:Because the police are a state-funded corporation of thugs. It stands to reason that a corporation would supply its employees with business cards. Don't let me stand in the way of your fiery rhetoric or anything, but what meaning, exactly, does 'of thugs' add to this paragraph? Mymla posted:Because the police are a state-funded corporation of public servants. It stands to reason that a corporation would supply its employees with business cards. Mymla posted:Because the police are a state-funded corporation of nice friendly good people. It stands to reason that a corporation would supply its employees with business cards. Mymla posted:Because the police are a state-funded corporation of blue-suited street superheroes. It stands to reason that a corporation would supply its employees with business cards.
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