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Scotland have dropped Richie Gray for his little brother and Kelly Brown for Fusaro. Nice way to get your first cap, a Calcutta cup game that nobody expects you to win.
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goatface posted:Scotland have dropped Richie Gray for his little brother and Kelly Brown for Fusaro. Nobody expects Scotland to win, but everyone apart from the English want them to win. Lancaster hasn't changed his squad, which sucks as I was really hoping George Ford would have a chance.
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Feb 6, 2014 15:33
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Went to the Waratahs Blues trial tonight. Both teams went well, Kurtley was good coming back at fullback and we had some crazy dude on the wing I didn't recognise. Charles Piutau ripped up for the Blues but Benji Marshall has a ways to go before he's a union player. Too flat, a bit directionless. He organised the runners a bit and mainly acted as a distributor of the ball.
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Feb 7, 2014 15:56
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Hope y'all are ready for a really bad game of rugby tomorrow at Lansdowne. The weather is currently lovely and probably won't improve, so conditions will not be good.
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Feb 7, 2014 21:00
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I feel like I have a grasp of the game enough to enjoy it, however I have questions. When the ball carrier is tackled he has to release the ball immediately, right? Do the rules dictate he can release it in any direction he wants? I usually see the carrier release the ball behind him to his own team. That's cool? Are union rules the same as league when it comes to kickoffs? If the ball doesn't go out on the full the kicking team gets the line out? Is stripping the ball allowed? I thought it was banned in NRL but that's a different game of rugby I know. Is collapsing the scrum a penalty due to safety issues? Sorry, that's it for now! Also, not that anyone cares but my cousin in Rome plays rugby, he says a lot of kids his age in Italy are picking it up. He's 16 and built like a forward (as much as Italians can be). When I was a kid it was all association football and volleyball.
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Feb 7, 2014 22:19
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Funkysauce posted:I feel like I have a grasp of the game enough to enjoy it, however I have questions. You have to release immediately (my coach always told us immediately is how long it takes you to say "immediately"). Players release it backwards for two reasons - first you'd want to put it towards your own players to give them a better chance of retaining at a ruck, and second and probably more important if you released it forward it'd be a knock-on. quote:Are union rules the same as league when it comes to kickoffs? If the ball doesn't go out on the full the kicking team gets the line out? If the ball goes out on the fall from a kickoff, it's a scrum at centre-field to the receiving team. (there might be a choice of a line-out to the receiving team, I forget, but if there is most teams take the scrum as it's a bit easier to maintain possession than with a lineout). quote:Is stripping the ball allowed? I thought it was banned in NRL but that's a different game of rugby I know. Yes. quote:Is collapsing the scrum a penalty due to safety issues? Pretty much yeah.
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Feb 7, 2014 22:24
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Thanks butros! Just thought of another one, when the ball is released from the ruck the players can't let it sit there forever right? They need to continue play quickly? Example: I'm dropped, I release to you. You just let the ball sit while waiting for players to get wide or to get a look at the defense. Is that ok? Do you need to play the ball quickly?
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Feb 7, 2014 22:29
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Funkysauce posted:Thanks butros! They actually just changed this rule during the 2013 season. As long as a ruck was formed and the ball was still inside the ruck (i.e. someone had their leg stretched over it or something), a scrumhalf could just wait forever. The Bulls would actually do a move where they would have about 5 players bind on each other and heel the ball back to each other, to give their scrumhalf enough space to do a box kick forward. However, that is now illegal, and from the time a ruck is formed, the ball must be passed out by the scrumhalf or a player acting as scrumhalf within 5 seconds - you'll often hear the referee start counting if the ball is in there a while and the scrumhalf generally gets the point and will move it out. The whole point is to keep the pace of the game up, rather than slowing it down.
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Feb 7, 2014 22:32
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It's why Nigel Owens keeps shouting "Ewzit!" Was one of the most ridiculous sights in Rugby seeing a scrum half standing over the ball for 30 seconds with an opposing player a foot away not being able to touch him or the ball. Next, sort out the clusterfuck that is "dummy runners" in midfield please. It's like crossing never existed.
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Feb 7, 2014 22:41
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Dropping a scrum deliberately is boring (because scrums already take too loving long with all the resetting, refs moving around to get a different view, and bullshit games that props play) but generally just really dangerous. There's a lot of people with their necks and backs in odd positions driving all their body weight in weird directions. Drop it the wrong way and suddenly someone's got one guy's bodyweight pressing down on his head while three other people are driving his body in another direction.
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Feb 7, 2014 22:45
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DickEmery posted:Was one of the most ridiculous sights in Rugby seeing a scrum half standing over the ball for 30 seconds with an opposing player a foot away not being able to touch him or the ball. I always did enjoy though when some frustrated front rower would finally just plow in from the side and get penalized for it. DickEmery posted:Next, sort out the clusterfuck that is "dummy runners" in midfield please. I don't mind the dummy runners really - defensive structures now are often so solid that it's one of the most effective things that teams can do to add an element of unpredictability to their attack. And really, unless the players are running very closely together even if there is a bit of crossing, it's on a defensive player who likely wouldn't be able to make a tackle on the player receiving the ball anyway.
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Feb 7, 2014 22:45
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Was at Ulsters 10-7 win over Ospreys tonight in 80 minutes of shitey cold rain; if it's like this down in Dublin tomorrow Wales-Ireland will be awful. Ospreys 10 (Morgan?) was really good tonight though, I've a bit of a hardon for running 10's who can cut inside and break the line and he had a really nice step. I'm hoping Ireland get the win tomorrow, but I'm also hoping that the rain stops so it isn't a borefest.
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MyChemicalImbalance posted:Was at Ulsters 10-7 win over Ospreys tonight in 80 minutes of shitey cold rain; if it's like this down in Dublin tomorrow Wales-Ireland will be awful. Urgh, soooo close :{ I found you some Matthew Morgan "material" for you to peruse, though. It's kind of depressing to think how good he is, because he's never going to be able to compare with Dan Biggar when it comes to selection. They've given him a few games at #13 recently, but the impact he has on the game in that position just doesn't seem like it's worth it over just having a bigger, stronger ball carrier :[
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Feb 8, 2014 00:52
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Tyma posted:Urgh, soooo close :{ Ulster were lucky enough in the end, Ospreys looked good in really bad conditions and they were unlucky not to get the win. I really do love how Morgan runs, he has a step and real outside pace and I'll definitely keep an eye on him in future. Also, I can't confess my love of fancy-dan showboat 10's without posting some Carlos Spencer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8LZgO3QB2k 
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Feb 8, 2014 01:10
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What the hell was Tebaldi thinking at the end?I'll never understand kicking possession away when the clock's gone past 80.How does a professional rugby player ever have a brainfart strong enough to think that's a good idea in any way? Darren Cave was pretty good tonight.It's a shame he's not in the Ireland squad,but he should get into it for the summer tour.
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I felt like these weren't fully addressed, and they're two of the biggest distinctions from League:Funkysauce posted:Is stripping the ball allowed? I thought it was banned in NRL but that's a different game of rugby I know. Yes, it is allowed. HOWEVER, when a runner goes into contact and stays on his feet, if more players join it becomes a maul, which is sort of like a scrum and sort of like a standing ruck. The attacking team, as long as their players are bound together, can pass the ball back in their train of players, and the other team has the same offside rules as at a ruck - i.e. they CANNOT strip the ball by running into the side and grabbing it, but instead must drive the maul back, head-on. Also, stripping the ball when a player is tackled IS allowed, BUT who can strip and when is very complicated and different depending on the referee. Moreover, if a ruck is formed, NO ONE who is inside the ruck can use their hands - but they can use their feet. Funkysauce posted:Is collapsing the scrum a penalty due to safety issues? Partly safety and partly playability, to encourage strong scrummaging. If your team's forwards are total studs and keep knocking my team down, you get awarded a penalty for being awesome/my team gives up a penalty for being poo poo. The trick is to intentionally collapse the scrum in such a way that it looks like the other team's fault, but referees are wiser to that than they were a few years ago. Funkysauce posted:Sorry, that's it for now! Also, not that anyone cares but my cousin in Rome plays rugby, he says a lot of kids his age in Italy are picking it up. He's 16 and built like a forward (as much as Italians can be). When I was a kid it was all association football and volleyball. Fantastico! I lived in Italy for a year in high school, my host-father was a rugby coach and his son played. My introduction to rugby consisted mostly of Italy losing a bunch in the 2003 Six Nations, but now I always pull for Italy against anyone but the USA.
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The Canadian Sevens side has a guy called Johnny Moonlight. I can't think of much more to add to that.
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Vagabundo posted:The Canadian Sevens side has a guy called Johnny Moonlight. I can't think of much more to add to that. What the Canadians lack in talent,they make up for in great names.The Ospreys have Tyler Ardron and Jeff Hassler.
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Feb 8, 2014 03:28
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Canadians had the coolest lineout in the 2011 world cup. Not-straight 10 metre NFL pass 
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There are a lot of tries awarded in Sevens without the ball actually being grounded. Also I think the commentators must be IRB paid because they never ever question a refereeing call even when it's blatantly incorrect.
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Feb 8, 2014 09:26
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New Zealand are tackling South Africa into the ground. 21-0 to NZ, 3:30 to go in the 2nd half.
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Feb 8, 2014 09:55
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Wales/Ireland just about to start, go Wales I guess!
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Good to see Ireland playing more like Leinster. First half last week was weak and hesitant E: OW 
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Feb 8, 2014 15:42
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Haha, gently caress off O'Driscoll, you whiny crybaby.
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Wales are making so many little mistakes 
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That was a pretty great try by Ireland!
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Feb 8, 2014 16:05
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Ireland playing some nice rugby so far! Both sides are giving away silly penalties, could swing either way unless Ireland kill it off soon. Good to see Trimble having a good game after being dropped from the squad last year.
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Sexton's kicking has been fantastic today
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Feb 8, 2014 16:11
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Smart, territory orientated rugby from Ireland. Schmidt has obviously learnt from last year where Ireland played a high tempo possession game that blew teams away in the first 50 or so minutes, but would then fade dramatically in the last 30. He might have played differently if SOB, Bowe, Zebo etc. were fit. But if you've got Trimble and the Kearneys in the back three who are good kick chasers; POM, Heaslip, Henry and Best to win turnovers; and Toner and POC to put pressure on a dodgy Welsh lineout it makes sense to play for territory and not value possession so highly. Painkiller fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Feb 8, 2014 |
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God I loving hate Keith Wood
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Please make Sam Warburton go away :[
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Feb 8, 2014 16:34
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Ireland still look like they're lacking big ball carriers but they're making it work, the line out has been brilliant so far. Is that the first completed scrum?
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loving hellll this is getting comically bad now
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Answers Me posted:loving hellll this is getting comically bad now Well the rain isn't going to do anybody any favors. I think we've probably seen the best of this game now.
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I might try shove into Kay's Bar today to watch our destruction. Depends on how busy it is.
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One more try please lads
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Wales actually shitter than last week.
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Just listen at that rude young man! 2 Penalty trys, please.
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Priestland loves kicking away good ball doesn't he? There's been a few times I've thought Ireland were looking light outside and he's just kicked it away.
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Can't shake off this feeling that Barnes is in fact trolling us and he will engineer a win for Wales in the last 10mins
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