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At the end, all comes to Mashiba willingness to listen Shouya's story. If the story comes from another source but Shouya (let's say Kawai) I doubt things will end well
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Hopefully they'll become awesome bros because he's quite a righteous person. Maybe a bit extreme... but hopefully rational enough to understand the situation. Though I don't like glasses girl and ueno getting more involved because they are both pretty terrible people.
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Apr 24, 2014 17:25
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GoldenNugget posted:
I think that's just the attitude the school encouraged for a class president. "Everythibg is fine, everybody is friends" so she has blinders about what's going on.
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Apr 24, 2014 18:46
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That teacher is such a piece of poo poo. He's easily the worst one. edit: Do they mention what town this story takes place in or does anyone know where the artist lives? Because I think it might be my town. The bridge where they always meet looked kind of familiar but it wasn't till later that they showed more of the area and I realized how much it looked like a park near my apartment. I got some pictures for comparison. http://imgur.com/a/SfwzQ I think they mentioned taking a trip to Nagoya at one point which is only about 30 minutes by train so it would fit too. Dr_Amazing fucked around with this message at 13:00 on Apr 27, 2014 |
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Apr 25, 2014 00:29
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Looks like we'll finally be getting a new chapter after three weeks of nothing come this Tuesday. Golden Week!!! 
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Can't help but think the teacher's reformed himself, at least a little. It honestly sounded like he was goading just to get a reaction from the kid so he could gauge it and see if he'd changed his opinions of our little deafskirt. It'd be nice, at least. Nothing like a 'Other people can change, too. Even adults.' lecture/revelation to give a kid some perspective.
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goatman was here
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May 12, 2014 05:27
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WarpedNaba posted:Can't help but think the teacher's reformed himself, at least a little. He already missed his chance. The teacher ignored the bullying either because having her in class was inconvenient to him, or because he just couldn't be bothered. When things got so bad the the principal started asking questions, he just threw Shouya under the bus. There was no effort to fix things, or address the problem at all. His big opportunity to redeem himself was lost when he did the exact same thing to Shouya. He ignored the whole situation since he knew they'd all graduate before it became a big enough problem. I'd argue it was actually worse this time since he told the rest of the class that what they were doing was fine and it was just this one kid who was the problem. Any redeeming conversation should have started with "Sorry for almost driving you to suicide."
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May 13, 2014 12:52
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Yea, I don't see the teacher being redeemed at all. He works really well of an example of everything going wrong.
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May 13, 2014 13:48
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Well, I see his approval of Ishida standing up for his more rebellious friends as a sign of his guilt. Also, he learned sign language. The teacher learned sign language. Just like Ishida did. See, you did grow into a fine young man after all.
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May 13, 2014 14:41
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WarpedNaba posted:Well, I see his approval of Ishida standing up for his more rebellious friends as a sign of his guilt. I feel like that's more to sate his guilt than to actually make amends because as far as we know he's never bothered to contact her once.
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The fact that he actually feels guilty over that is still a step in the right direction, though.
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May 13, 2014 15:10
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Maybe him learning sign language was a directive from his superiors in case a similar situation happened again. Either that, or he had another deaf student and decided not to make the same mistakes. I could definitely see the introduction of another deaf character soon.
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Where are you guys getting that the teacher knows sign language? He's surprised to see her at the school but I don't think he knows what they are saying.
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Well, there was a bit near the end of that chapter where it sure looked like he was reading their signs:
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Or that he was surprised that Shouya knew sign language and was friends with Shouko?
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Yeah, there really wasnt anything there that you could infer about him actually knowing sign language. I can tell people are communicating with sign language without knowing the peculiarities of it.
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Dragonatrix posted:Or that he was surprised that Shouya knew sign language and was friends with Shouko? It sounds like he's translating to himself. What he's saying aren't exactly exclamations of surprise.
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The new chapter was... a little odd. I didn't see point of that chapter until he outright said it at the very end. e: He certainly does, but it felt contrived. He's never been this much of a shithead before now so his sudden change in demeanor gave me whiplash. ViggyNash fucked around with this message at 02:04 on May 14, 2014 |
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ViggyNash posted:The new chapter was... a little odd. I didn't see point of that chapter until he outright said it at the very end.  You weren't kiddingNagatsuma really has issues though.
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May 14, 2014 01:57
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New chapter. I actually wasn't able to read it off crunchyroll's manga reader, just from their iOS app, so you might have to go to other sources to read the chapter. Well, looks like we'll get to finally see what Kawai's been writing.
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May 21, 2014 03:52
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God drat Ishida is really starting to lose it.
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I feel like this is going to end with him sitting everyone down and letting it all out, and some will accept he has changed while others will hate him for it. They also mentioned a bully being one of the movie characters right? Bet it's based on him.
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Oh man, I bet Ishida will made something stupid by being paranoid and I didn't expect for Mashiba to been bullied on the past
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I dunno, in this situation I cant help but feel that he could be right to be paranoid. The people from his old school have proven they can be lovely people on more than a few occasions and remember that Shouya has also been pretty badly bullied over the years. He has lots of emotional trauma from everything that happened (arguably much worse than the others) and who could blame him for being terrified of being a social pariah again? When reading this chapter I found it very easy to empathise with how he must feel with Mashiba and co saying such ominous stuff and honestly I think he would be better off just coming clean to him and explaining what happened. One of the big themes in this manga is that people should communicate with others better and its never been more true than it has been in the past few chapters.
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Enough of them have only seen him as the relatively well-adjusted man they know. In that situation, it wouldn't be too hard for them to be convinced that he's reformed. Granted, there'll be a few fist fights, but Nishimiya would be happy enough to stand up for him. What DID she see in him back in those days?
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loving Mashiba... He's as blunt as crushing an ant with the moon. I feel bad for him being bullied, but his attitude is really pissing me off. But in his defense, he seems to think that Ishida was just a victim of bullying and he wants to try and connect with him by insulting other bullies. Not the healthiest way to think, however.
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Allarion posted:New chapter. So, regarding the end, does he suspect that Kawai was secretly spreading the info on him that he was the one who made Nishimiya leave the school? I also reread the previous chapter. The more I see of him, the more I dislike Nagatsuka. He's just starting to come off as obsessive and deranged, and he really gives me the creeps.
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The feeling I'm getting from this is that it's nice to have friends, but you shouldn't just be friends with people because you're afraid to be alone. There was a certain desperation in his assertion at the end of this chapter: (paraphrase) "I wanna be in this group forever!".
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I'm still somewhat tickled at the irony of a bunch of people decided the best way to deal with too much bullying is to step up how much they bully people.
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They're teenagers, logic ain't really a strong point.
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Dr_Amazing posted:I'm still somewhat tickled at the irony of a bunch of people decided the best way to deal with too much bullying is to step up how much they bully people. Which part are you talking about?
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WarpedNaba posted:They're teenagers, logic ain't really a strong point. I don't know how much experience you have with the business world, but you might be surprised at how many people never grow out of a high/junior high school mentality.
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ViggyNash posted:Which part are you talking about? The entire premise of the story is that the class bullies a girl and one guy takes it too far. So the rest of the class decides he's too much of a bully and starts bullying him in retaliation.
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Dr_Amazing posted:The entire premise of the story is that the class bullies a girl and one guy takes it too far. So the rest of the class decides he's too much of a bully and starts bullying him in retaliation. And what happens if the school decided to start bullying the class? Hmm... I guess then it'd turn into Assassination Classroom! 
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Dr_Amazing posted:The entire premise of the story is that the class bullies a girl and one guy takes it too far. So the rest of the class decides he's too much of a bully and starts bullying him in retaliation. My impression was always that they turned on him because he got caught and they wanted to distance themselves from him in order to save their own skin. Especially since they don't seem to have a problem with the bullying literally one panel before the meeting with the principal when it all comes out: 
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Dr_Amazing posted:The entire premise of the story is that the class bullies a girl and one guy takes it too far. So the rest of the class decides he's too much of a bully and starts bullying him in retaliation. I saw it less as them stepping up the bullying as them doing more of the same, just to a new target.
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Oh man this manga is just so.. Cute.  ViggyNash posted:I saw it less as them stepping up the bullying as them doing more of the same, just to a new target. Yeah. Even the teacher was starting to laugh but when consequences came down, nobody wanted to take the blame, and Ishida was the most vocal offender. Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Between this, GTO and Assasination Classroom, the Japanese education system seems to be really hosed up. GTO?
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Anatharon posted:Oh man this manga is just so.. Cute. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Teacher_Onizuka
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Anatharon posted:GTO? About a former bike gang leader that becomes a teacher and gives no fucks about the established system and just tries to be the best he can. But he gets saddled with a group of kids out for teachers' blood, sending Onizuka's predecessor into depression with an eating disorder.
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