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Nope, the game is abstracted so that you can't actually attack destroyers. The rationale seems to be that, although these types of attacks did happen, they were rare enough not to be included in the game, and would probably require additional rules that would make the combat much more difficult.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 10:01 |
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Chief Engineer Scruffy's Log Durnit. Sure, put me on the next boat. I'm helping.
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# ? Feb 14, 2014 17:34 |
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I have a sneaking suspicion that with a crate of Jaegermeister on the line, that bastard Gradenko may have sabotaged our boat. Spaced God, your first job is to commence a clandestine toilet-clogging mission as soon as U-49 returns to the port.
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# ? Feb 14, 2014 17:40 |
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Lichtenstein posted:I have a sneaking suspicion that with a crate of Jaegermeister on the line, that bastard Gradenko may have sabotaged our boat. Herr Kaleun, I will require the strongest chili available and lots of it.
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# ? Feb 14, 2014 17:48 |
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According to previous logs, you are roughly 20k tons ahead on a comparable date, Lichtenstein!
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# ? Feb 14, 2014 17:52 |
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U-47, after a refit of two months was finally out to sea again. Unfortunately the previous Chief Engineer, dscruffy1, was still recovering by the time the ship was ready to go underway: unable to wait, he had unfortunately been replaced by OfzS Spaced God. He had arrived at the ship mentioning to the Kaleun that his mission 'had been done'. No-one else was really sure what he meant, however. Instead of being assigned to the british isles, this time U-47 had been assigned to the western spanish coast, which apparently was filled with allied shipping: this would mean that U-47 had to go through the Channel, but Lichtenstein set out so that they would reach it by night and hopefully be able to slip through without issue. The transit journey went exactly as planned, with U-47 arriving at the mouth of the Channel in the dead of the night. Although a few sound contacts were spotted, no destroyer approached close enough to pose a threat: everyone was visibly relieved once they had gotten past the Pas de Calais. Almost a week passed: although the crew enjoyed the milder weather in comparison to the patrols near the British Isles, there seemed to be a dearth of targets. Finally LtzS Pierzak spotted something on the horizon, the 7k tanker I.C. White. Approaching at close range, Lichtenstein ordered for two torpedoes to be fired at the ship. One of them was a dud, but the other lifted the boat up as it striked just near the keel, breaking the ship in half. The tanker quickly sank. A few days later, LtzS ManfredTheGreat reported yet another contact on the horizon, this time a huge 13.9k ton tanker called the New Sevilla. Ordering three torpedoes to be fired at the huge tanker, all three tubes launched in succession. The first torpedo missed, but the other two were on targets and slammed into the tanker near the midriff of the ship. Substantially damaged, the tanker was still not out for the count, so Lichtenstein ordered a further 50 shots from the 8.8 cm cannon to be fired. Aiming at the waterline, the shots created a huge explosion and soon the tanker was sinking into the Atlantic. With fuel running relatively low and the trip back through the channel still needing to be done, Lichtenstein set course for home, happy about the two tanker kills that he had managed to get. The trip back through the channel was taken just as deliberately and carefully as the forward journey and yet again was completely uncontested. Soon, U-47 arrived at the entrance of the Kiel canal: they had arrived back home, safe and sound. Final Status Patrol Summary Ships Sunk: 2 Total Tonnage: 20.9k tons Campaign Summary Ships Sunk: 9 Total Tonnage: 72.1k tons Tekopo fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Feb 15, 2014 |
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We've changed Engineer and poo poo stopped breaking all the time. Go figure. A bang-up job from the whole crew. Congratulations, the drinks are on me tonight*. * The offer includes only officers and NCOs.
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# ? Feb 15, 2014 14:06 |
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Lichtenstein posted:We've changed Engineer and poo poo stopped breaking all the time. Go figure. Because this engineer isn't a janitor.
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# ? Feb 15, 2014 14:37 |
What a tranquil patrol. Things can (and will) only heat up from here.
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# ? Feb 15, 2014 14:40 |
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Wow. That was an ideal patrol except for a derth of targets. Wheee!
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# ? Feb 17, 2014 16:11 |
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Was pretty tired yesterday, so patrol will come tonight!
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# ? Feb 17, 2014 16:34 |
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The crew had performed remarkably well in the last few missions. Cool and collected, they had worked together, like a machine. KptLt Lichtenstein was rightly proud of them. Getting the ship ready, KptLt Lichtenstein looked at his assignment. He had been tasked with patrolling the northern part of the North Sea, between the Orkneys and Norway: there were strong rumours that an attempt at a landing on Norway would be happening soon. The trip out from Kiel was uneventful as always and soon the patrol area was reached, starting from the tip of Norway and working its way back west towards the Orkneys and the British Isles. The seas were becoming heavy and even if there had been any contacts, it was hard to see them as the winds picked up into a storm. The storm continued for many days, U-47 not making much progress: KptLt Lichtenstein ordered the ship to submerge several times in order to give his crew some rest. Even underwater the hydrophones did not seem to pick anything up and BdU was being completely silent. Just as the storm was about to abate, Pierzak reported a sudden contact: a freighter, escorted by a couple of destroyers, could be seen through the waves. The freighter was the 8.6k ton Surrey. While Lichtenstein set an intercept, the storm abated completely, leaving a serene spring day on its wake. Only a submerged attack would do in this condition. Lichtenstein fired two torpedoes: one missed, but the other was a beautiful under-the-keel centerline shot, breaking the back of the freighter and making it sink in a matter of minutes. The destroyers near the ship seemed to have been caught unaware, as the U-47 was able to slip out of detection without even a depth charge fired at her. The rest of the patrol continued uneventfully: the weather also declined to pick up again and the sea seemed to be as flat as a pancake. Not even when Lichtenstein moved closer to Scapa Flow did U-47 manage to pick out a viable targets: only small fisherman ships could be found. The trip back home was performed without a hitch. Another quiet patrol for the crew of the U-47. Final Status Patrol Summary Ships Sunk: 1 Total Tonnage: 8.6k tons Campaign Summary Ships Sunk: 10 Total Tonnage: 80.7k tons
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# ? Feb 17, 2014 23:05 |
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You might have noticed that we have a trained crew: the only thing it does is improve Flak guns, which is not exactly super-useful. Still, it's a slight improvement!
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# ? Feb 17, 2014 23:07 |
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Of course! When I join everything gets boring. The
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# ? Feb 18, 2014 00:25 |
Spaced God posted:Of course! When I join everything gets boring. The Sei vorsichtig, was du dir wünschst. You'll remember this when your arm is broken after a direct depth charge hit sent you flying and the doctor is lying in a puddle of his own blood because he got knocked head-first into a pipe. Excitement is guaranteed.
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# ? Feb 18, 2014 00:29 |
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Leaked footage of next patrol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA0MWKlPN-c
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# ? Feb 18, 2014 00:32 |
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I am also hoping for more of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7K4YT2zZ5g (the german unedited, full-length mini-series version is the only way to watch it)
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# ? Feb 18, 2014 00:42 |
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Tekopo posted:(the german unedited, full-length mini-series version is the only way to watch it) Oh heck yes. I often find I'm the only person in my social circles who knows the original exists. The extra plot and general material makes it far better than the film.
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# ? Feb 18, 2014 02:01 |
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German with subtitles is the only way to go. Anyone who watches the dubbed version is a goddamn barbarian.
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# ? Feb 18, 2014 04:49 |
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Zeroisanumber posted:German with subtitles is the only way to go. Anyone who watches the dubbed version is a goddamn barbarian. But both English and German audio were dubbed... and by the same actors. Did not know about the mini-series version, will go hunting now.
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# ? Feb 18, 2014 05:51 |
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Paingod556 posted:But both English and German audio were dubbed... and by the same actors. The same actors? That sounds either awesome or horrible. Let's enjoy the quiet patrols while they last, and the victory of shooting down a tanker with escorts and NO damage to us! Does the game give indications of super-secret importance with those (i.e. this was a tanker that was actually carrying a diplomat or letters of state, etc.)? Or is it more random?
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# ? Feb 18, 2014 14:54 |
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It's more random: it's determined by what you roll on the encounter table. The usual encounters are stuff like Ship, Two Ships, Ship + Escort, Convoy or even Capital Ship or Aircraft. There's also random events that can happen if you roll a 12 on 2d6 (we actually got a 'superior torpedo' random event right at the end of the last patrol but I couldn't see it any way to fit it in considering we would never use those torpedoes).
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# ? Feb 18, 2014 15:00 |
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Aesclepia posted:The same actors? That sounds either awesome or horrible. The set they used in Das Boot was so loud, none of the recorded lines came through. So the actors (all German) had to re-record their lines and get it dubbed in. And they did it in English too, while they were at it.
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# ? Feb 18, 2014 16:13 |
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May had been a truly interesting month to have a month off for the crew of the U-47. With the invasion of france and the almost total collapse of the French Army and the BEF, the latter weeks of the month had almost been one of constant partying. Everyone had felt like they could truly win the war, with only the British left to beat. The partying had been spoiled by the fact that soon U-47, after a month's refit, would soon need to hit the water again, but almost everyone felt like they could drive the final nail into the british coffin all by themselves. This time, U-47 had been tasked with patrolling the area near the Pas de Calais: there were still some ships attempting to evacuate and U-47 needed to intercept them and sink them before they could go back home. The journey through the Kiel canal and into the North Sea was uneventful, but it didn't take long for U-47 to find a target once inside the patrol zone. The 3.6k ton Aenos had been spotted by LtzS ManfredTheGreat, heading away from France back towards England: it was night by the time that U-47 caught up and soon the night sky was filled with flashes of light as the 8.8 cm cannon fired again and again. The men seemed to have perfected their markmanship as only a few rounds were needed to sink the ship: although the freighter took a long time to disappear beneath the waves, its fate was sealed. The patrol continued and soon another target presented itself, this time spotted by LtzS Pierzak. The target this time was the 4.4k Nicolas Pateras: it was clear the British were using the smaller freighters to carry their troops off. Once again, night provided the ideal situation for U-47's crew to test their cannon marksmanship. This time, the marksmanship was not as good as before and thus, in order to prevent any time being wasted, the Kaleun decided to fire a single torpedo to finish off the freighter. Unfortunately, the single torpedo fired proved to be a dud. Coming around for another pass, Lichtenstein ordered another 25 rounds fired at the unusually resilient freighter, but once again the firing was way off. Getting impatient and worried about the threat of the RAF, Lichtenstein ordered another torpedo fired. Another hit, another dud. This freighter seemed to have a charmed life. Suddenly, a parachute flare lighted up the skies. A sudden shell struck close to U-47 and Lichtenstein immediately called the alarm. A Flower Corvette had come to save the freighter. U-47 just had time to submerge before the Corvette was almost on top of it, avoiding getting rammed by a very slim margin. Depth charges hit the water. The explosions were extremely close, shaking the crew and making them crash against the bulkheads. Damage reports soon came in: an explosion near the electrical engines had taken them both out of commission, as well as causing flooding within the compartment. Fortunately, Chief Engineer Spaced God was able to stop any further flooding, but the boat was still dead in the water, unable to evade using its now-damaged engines. Lichtenstein immediately ordered the boat to exceed test depth: with engines dead, there was no other alternative in order to evade the Corvette. Fortunately, this seemed to have done the trick, as the next batch of depth charges was nowhere near as accurate and soon U-47 was able to slip out altogether. Still night by the time that U-47 finally surfaced, Spaced God reported that Electrical Engine 1 had been fixed, but 2 was down for the count. Still not willing to let the freighter go, but with the Corvette still hanging around to escort it back home, Lichtenstein decided on a night surface attack, electing to fire two torpedoes this time: even if one was a dud, hopefully the other would work. Both torpedoes hit the freighter dead on, finally exploding and quickly sinking the Nicolas Pateras. Quickly submerging to avoid detection, U-47 attempted to avoid detection once again but, like before, the Corvette was soon able to locate the submarine. A clutch of depth charges, on target but not as accurate as before, rocked the ship, The fore torpedo room was hit especially badly and Doctor Veloxyll rushed to that compartment, where many had been reported killed or wounded. Damage was also reported to one of the diesel engines. The Corvette came around for another go, but once again the depth charges were off target and soon she had given up on the hunt altogether. Waiting for the sound of the Corvette screws to recede into the distance, Lichtenstein waited. Reports from the forward torpedo room were grim: many of the men had died instantly and others were seriously injured. Unfortunately, Spaced God reported that the diesel engine was out of commission: U-47 would be forced to abort and head back home, since they couldn't risk losing another diesel. The progress would be slow: with only one engine in operation, the cruise speed would be dramatically decreased. Fortunately, the trip back home proved to be uneventful, but even then the crew was disappointed that they had been forced to abort so early into the patrol. Final Status Patrol Summary Ships Sunk: 2 Total Tonnage: 8k tons Campaign Summary Ships Sunk: 12 Total Tonnage: 88.7k tons Tekopo fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Feb 19, 2014 |
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Goddamn malingerers, you don't need legs to load torpedoes! Seriously men, we need to step up our game, as that punk Kretschmer is about to snatch the Knights Cross before we do.
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# ? Feb 19, 2014 01:17 |
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At least we got to load the corpses in to the torpedo tubes for a proper submariner burial. They were about as effective as our torpedoes at any rate
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# ? Feb 19, 2014 03:16 |
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Find whoever wanted excitement and launch him out of ze torpedo tube!
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# ? Feb 19, 2014 03:34 |
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Pierzak posted:Find whoever wanted excitement and launch him out of ze torpedo tube! Yeah what idiot would wish that up-- Spaced God posted:Of course! When I join everything gets boring. The I should stay away from the torpedo rooms shouldn't I?
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# ? Feb 19, 2014 07:14 |
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One thing I didn't explicitly state, when one of your diesel engines is busted, you have to roll on the transit boxes twice instead of once: we were lucky that we didn't meet any planes (or, for that matter, that we were one month away from shipping to the Bay of Biscay ports).
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# ? Feb 19, 2014 10:45 |
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Two ships sunk isn't bad for having to abort early, and we got that charmed boat despite its sudden escort. That's a few less Brits back home! Did submarine crews really send their dead out the torpedo tubes?
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# ? Feb 19, 2014 13:57 |
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I'm not sure, someone care to chip in with the information?
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# ? Feb 19, 2014 15:40 |
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Aesclepia posted:Two ships sunk isn't bad for having to abort early, and we got that charmed boat despite its sudden escort. That's a few less Brits back home! I don't have my sources with me, but IIRC that's just melodramatic apocrypha that's been perpetuated by things like Star Trek and Hollywood takes on the U-boat. Men who on patrol were given burials at sea when it was practicable, but one should keep in mind that getting "partial kills" on a submarine was rare. If the depth charges find you, everyone goes down (or surrenders) with the boat. That whole boats go down with everyone in it is also why the submarine service had proportionally higher rates of loss than, say, the infantry or the air force or even the regular navy.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I don't have my sources with me, but IIRC that's just melodramatic apocrypha that's been perpetuated by things like Star Trek and Hollywood takes on the U-boat. Men who on patrol were given burials at sea when it was practicable, but one should keep in mind that getting "partial kills" on a submarine was rare. If the depth charges find you, everyone goes down (or surrenders) with the boat. EDIT: I am aware, however, that they probably did it to make the damage model simpler.
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# ? Feb 19, 2014 17:15 |
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It may be a balance choice to avoid unwinnable death spirals. Having to limp home with all the penalties from engine criticals, crew loss, heavy flooding etc may be realistic (and produce a realistic loss rate), but would just be frustrating for the player.
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Loxbourne posted:It may be a balance choice to avoid unwinnable death spirals. Having to limp home with all the penalties from engine criticals, crew loss, heavy flooding etc may be realistic (and produce a realistic loss rate), but would just be frustrating for the player. Apart from that, this isn't really a game where I feel you can or should be frustrated by a loss: much like Queen of the Skies, it's more about seeing how far you can get but also about the narrative of the career of the KMDT in question. In an 'experience generator' game, it's more exciting when things go wrong than when things go right.
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# ? Feb 19, 2014 17:52 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:That whole boats go down with everyone in it is also why the submarine service had proportionally higher rates of loss than, say, the infantry or the air force or even the regular navy.
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# ? Feb 19, 2014 17:54 |
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Coming up with an update, but here's something very interesting concerning the pacific theater of operations. I'm not sure how they are going to make it so that you have a similar increase in difficulty though...
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# ? Feb 20, 2014 01:13 |
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Ice cream runs out as war progresses?
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# ? Feb 20, 2014 01:15 |
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Lichtenstein posted:Ice cream runs out as war progresses? The worst part of wartime rationing
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7th Fleet headquarters had been shifted from Kiel to Brest and this would be U-47s new home once it finished its current patrol. During the months of downtime, France had been forced to surrender and the Battle of Britain had begun, with the air-war over the Channel reaching a fever pitch. The Battle of the Atlantic had also intensified and now more and more patrols were going out to the Atlantic rather than just around the British Isles. The Atlantic was where U-47 was going: after rounding the northern edge of the British Isles, U-47 would patrol downwards, then head back to the Bay of Biscay in order to arrive at its new base in Brest. The forward journey was extremely uneventful, even when U-47 got close to the Orkneys, and the crew spent their times discussing the usual main interest: how would french girls compare to the ones back home. Most of the crew seemed excited about going to a new port, although it was clear some would miss home dearly. Still, it would mean that they wouldn't have to go through that drat Kiel Canal again. Once within the patrol zone, KptLt Lichtenstein ordered a southerly, zig-zagging route: U-47 had already expended a lot of fuel just to get into position. The first few days were uneventful, with neither Pierzak nor ManfredTheGreat sighting anything on the horizon, or BdU contacting them about a possible convoy. After about a week of patrolling, the crew was starting to become bored. Becoming sloppy, an accident was bound to occur. While performing the regular servicing of the torpedoes in the fore torpedo room, one of the winches holding the torpedo in place had not been set properly, and one end of the torpedo dropped from its restraints. Two cremen were seriously injured, their legs crushed by the 1538 kg weapon. One of the crewmen, stuck in place, was left screaming in pain as the rest of the crew desperately tried to raise the torpedo. Veloxyll finally reported that the two men would survive the trip back to Brest. Lichtenstein, although wanting to avoid any future accident, was as shocked as the rest of the crew. Finally, after a few more days, a message from BdU was received. A convoy was near U-47 and the submarine had been ordered to intercept and sink as many merchants as it could find. Arriving at the target zone at night, Pierzak finally spotted the convoy, with possible targets being the 8.8k Navasota, the 9.2k tanker Invershannon, the 6.6k tanker Ervinke and the 4.9k freighter Rio Tercero. Deciding to perform a night attack at medium range, Lichtenstein decided to fire two torpedoes at the Navasota and two at the Invershannon, before slipping under the waves. The time ticked by without a single explosion. One of the torpedoes aimed at the freighters had been a dud, but the other three had missed altogether: the calculations had been too hasty. Unfortunately, even though no explosion had occurred, the torpedoes must have been noticed by one of the escorts, since soon the sound of ASDIC and the high-speed screws of the Destroyer could be heard: U-47 had been detected. Depth charge explosions suddenly rocked the hull of the ship, sending men flying. A sudden leak in the conning tower was soon closed by Chief Engineer Spaced God: the flak gun outside had also been hit. The next sweep by the destroyer was nowhere as close as the first and slowly, U-47 descended lower and lower, finally managing to avoid the destroyer altogether. A few hours passed before the Destroyer gave up the chase and U-47 could surface. The damage on the flak gun was minor and was soon repaired by Spaced God, while the water from the flooding also quickly pumped out. Deciding to have another go at the convoy, Lichtenstein set a course to come around and set up another attack: fortunately, by the time the manoeuvre was completed, it was still night. Four more targets presented themselves: the 5k freighter Counsellor, the 5k freighter Kafiristan, the 8.8k tanker Yarraville and the 9.5k tanker Languedoc. Targeting the tankers yet again, Lichtenstein opted for another medium range surface attack, firing two G7a's at both ships. Both of the torpedoes aimed at the Yarraville hit, although one was a dud: the second, however, created extensive damage on the tanker and soon its precious cargo caught fire: the ship was doomed. Both torpedoes fired at the Languedoc also hit, but both proved to be duds: once again ordnance had screwed up. The destroyers that had hounded U-47 before were not as vigilant this time and the u-boat was able to slip out without being detected by the escorts. With plenty of targets still within reach, Lichtenstein plotted another course to round the convoy and strike at it again. The torpedo reserves were running low but hopefully they would last. It took a full day to round the convoy, but as night descended, U-47 found itself in position to attack. Four potential targets presented themselves: the 5k ton Sliedrecht, the 5.9k Cherokee, the 5.3k ton Bronte and the 12k tanker Cadillac. Deciding to ensure the sinking of the tanker, Lichtenstein fired the two G7a's at the tanker and the two G7e's at the Sliedrecht, with the smaller freighter making an easier target to sink. One of the slower G7e's missed altogether, but the second hit the Sliedrecht amidship: the small freighter was soon slipping underneath the waves. As for the G7a's, one torpedo suddenly stopped running, while the other proved to be a dud. The escort didn't take their time in attempting to detect U-47: quickly pouncing on the location of the submarine, it wasn't long before depth charges hit the water near the location of the u-boat. The explosions were deadly accurate and the crew screamed as the ship was violently rocked. The control room crew announced that the dive planes had been hit as well as the hydrophones, while Veloxyll ran to the back of the ships as reports surfaced that some of the diesel room crew had been severely injured, as well as the 1st diesel engine being put out of commission. Coming around for another pass, with the dive planes out of commission it was difficult to increase depth quickly to avoid detection, and soon depth charges were once again exploding close to U-47, although not as close as in the first pass. A massive explosion near the electrical engines buckled the hull and brought one of the electrical engines out of commission. It would be harder and harder to avoid the depth charges now. Lichtenstein immediately ordered the ship to go deeper and exceed test depth: they had to find some way of evading this destroyer! This seemed to have finally done the trick, since the next batch of explosions were further away: once again, U-47 had managed to escape. Surfacing later on, dawn was coming up fast. Spaced God reported that both the dive planes and the hydrophones were out of commission, but both the electrical and the diesel engine had been fixed. Coming around, Lichtestein decided that with only the aft torpedo rooms having any weapons left, there was still a chance to sink a ship from the convoy: two ships was not enough for the courageous Kaluen. Coming around for another pass, the targets spotted this time were the 10.6k ton Zealandic, the 5k ton Winkleigh, the 3.7k Gleigwen and the 7.2k ton Clan Chisholm. Aiming the aft torpedo tube at the Zealandic, Lichtenstein fired at medium range, hoping that the single torpedo would do enough damage to slow the large freighter. Unfortunately, the shot missed completely. The escorts were onto U-47 almost immediately and the submarine had barely enough time to submerge before the escorts were right on top of it. The shaking from the explosions almost seemed to rip apart the ship all by itself. The hull buckled, while Veloxyll once again made his way to the engine room: more crew had been injured: among them, the Chief Engineer, Spaced God. The fuel tanks had been hit and the aft torpedo door were stuck fast. Lichtenstein immediately ordered for the ship to exceed test depth: the highly damaged hull would not be able to take the strain for long but it was the only way to escape the deadly threat of the destroyers. Once again the trick seemed to work, with the destroyers throwing their depth charges way off target. After a few hours of relative peace, Lichtenstein assessed the damage. Doctor Veloxyll had his hands full: almost half of the crew had been seriously injured, including Spaced God. Both the aft torpedo room doors and the fuel tank leak was unrepairable: the only choice for U-47 was to immediately return to Brest once the ship surfaced again. The surface, fortunately, was clear and soon U-47 was on its way to its new home. The ship was fortunate enough not to encounter any aircraft on its way back and soon the french coast was within sight. Battered and bruised, U-47 was finally safe. All the wounded had to be carefully lifted out of the ship and quickly Spaced God and the injured crewmen were immediately brought to a nearby hospital. Lichtenstein, both for the ships sunk and how he had managed to get his crew back safe and sound, was finally awarded the Knight's Cross, while also being promoted to KorvettenKapitan. Final Status Patrol Summary Ships Sunk: 2 Total Tonnage: 13.8k tons Campaign Summary Ships Sunk: 14 Total Tonnage: 102.5k tons
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