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Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
I really hate that you never encounter combat capable friendlies, even in places where they should be. There are side missions where you encounter soldiers and bodyguards who just hang out and watch your dudes get shot. Thanks, bro!

Even the lowest rookie accuracy is pretty drat good for night fighting while outnumbered with no support. I wish I could have the units use the suppression fire animations against each other when in range. Real firefights tend to involve thousands of rounds going down range. It would be so pretty!

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Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Coolguye posted:

During beta, they did this for a while. The initial burst was just the beginning, if you fired at an alien, your soldier and the alien would exchange fire until the next turn. They eventually scrapped it because it made firefights absurdly loud, busy, and visually distracting while trying to move anyone who's not firing. It looks really cool from a viewer's perspective, but from a player's perspective it's actually pretty inhibiting.

That might be something that Toolboks could eventually bring back if it's anywhere still in the code though.

Yeah, firefight mode would definitely be a "sometimes" toggle.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Bobbin Threadbare posted:

Aliens can panic, too, although they don't get to use their turns out of order. When you see an alien run away randomly or make a suboptimal move, that's what's happening.

So the invasion of Earth is the result of a failed panic check? I'd call flying in UFOs while Jade and Guava are around suboptimal.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

GhostStalker posted:

I picked up Enemy Unknown in a Steam sale a while back (I think it was the Fall 2013 sale, I forget) but I've never gotten around to playing it, since I didn't have access to a computer that could run it with any regularity. I've got that now, and have downloaded and installed it, but still haven't gotten around to playing it. Still, I've watched friends have a go at it, and I think I've pretty much got how the game works down, though I haven't run a mission yet myself. I should change that once I get some free time, but I haven't had the chance yet.

Looking forward to learning something from this LP. Sure, this one is with Enemy Within, but I should pick that up once it goes on sale again and some things in the expansion should still apply well to the base game, right?

When you launch the game it asks if you want to play Enemy Unknown or Enemy Within, so aside from bugfixes and such, I cant imagine there's much feature creep between the two. Enemy Within does add TONS of cool stuff, which I am experiencing right now because this LP reminded me I got the DLC during the last Steam sale. :)

E: This thread also reminded me that I hadn't checked out Xenonauts for a year or so. Time to rectify that.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
I thought snipers were for handing awesome pistols to and scouting half the map with a couple scanner grenades, and as an added bonus they also lug around a big-rear end rifle they get to use occasionally. Gunslinger 4 lyfe.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
My biggest problem on classic is having a roster survive long enough so I can get lazors and then armor. My soldiers are like tears in the rain. :smith:

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
Squaddie snipers are still horrible dead weight until you feed them enough kills to get squad sight and the 100% accurate grenade is the surest bet for harvesting a few xp. I really wish I could equip a Squaddie sniper with the combat rifle, it'd make things much easier. Most times I'd rather have a rookie along. At least they can move and fire. Am I the only one that gives assaults combat rifles/laser rifles until they level up a bit? I like the flexibility more than I like suicide charges.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
The only good haiku I've ever written goes thus:

Jesus Christ chauffeur
Soul saving NASCAR driver
Oil apocalypse

As for XCom:

Grey sky men appear
Auto-fire HE rains down
Rubble is now safe

E:

Haiku is kawaii
Baka gaijin get it wrong
Draw steel western dog

EE: Let's Play X-Com: Haikus Within

Pvt.Scott fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Feb 9, 2014

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
I still need to finish my app. Gotta break out the markers and pens and poo poo. Might be too late, but :xcom:.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Ceebees posted:

Lightning reflexes is a great ability that has the ill fortune to be the opportunity cost for an amazing one (in EW).

Yeah, I just played EW for the first time a few nights ago and I noticed that they had made Lightning Reflexes not the only choice at that level. Whatever the skill is called, getting a free normal shot at enemies within 4 squares once per turn is amazing. Just think, shoot once and then shoot two more times in the same turn!

E: I really wish there were some less cartoony color options. Like some actual cammo or something. Plus, why can't I have guys in Spec. Ops. black with red berets? No, they have to be black too.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Section Z posted:

That Shattered Empire video, at around 7:10, showcases the voice clips that drive me the most crazy in X-Com.

No, not Vahlen complaining. The voice clips that I hate most is when your soldiers go all "The enemy is losing ground! :downs:", when the enemy is instead shooting at you :argh:

I know it's a small thing, but god drat you stupid soldiers. The reason you keep dying is because you can't tell the difference between an alien running away and an alien trying to kill you.

I think those voice clips are there to indicate that the aliens have failed a morale check and are panicking. It just happens that their panic action is to murder your sniper colonel with a crit, more often than not. Could be wrong.

E: "It looks like the enemy are falling back!"
:X-ray charges from cover straight towards your squad.:

"Salad coffee, big guy!"

Pvt.Scott fucked around with this message at 11:01 on Feb 10, 2014

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
Hell, there's a bank near my house with 6 lanes. 4 have pneumatic tubes for the teller window and 2 have ATMs.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Jade Star posted:

What the hell. What other terrible ideas are waiting to be made into drive throughs?

C'mon. The US is the nation that decided getting out of your car to see a movie was too hard. We can do anything drive-thru. Pharmacies, liquor, banks, food, theaters, wedding chapels and porn are ones I've seen with my own eyes.

E: forgot smoke shops.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
Have each soldier's nickname add up to enough syllables to form a haiku when matched with the rest of their squad.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
Thin Men should obviously upgrade to Fat Men. Instead of suits and ties they should wear jorts, socks with sandals and printed nerdy tshirts that are at least one size too small. The aliens are learning how to fit in.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
Things X-Com has done to me today:

3 soldiers missed 90% + shots all in a row. They all died in subsequent turns due to a panic cascade leading to the uncovering of two more enemy packs.

My newly promoted Assault with Tactical Sense and the Urban Combat medal (+5 def in cover)died while in hard cover to a crit from a sectoid after rampaging across the map and racking up at least 5 kills.

Portent killed my A-Team, and with it, the X-Com Project. Again.

Ironman Classic, of course.

:xcom:

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
The medal should be the Dr. Lily Takakumi Haiku Composition Excellence Award.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

FoolyCharged posted:

The big use of shivs, is that if you make a mech with a cybernetics lab, a common thing to do given their power, the techs that upgrade that mech also tend to upgrade your little robo tank buddies,making it much easier to produce one as an expendable pointman. They're entirely expendable, tote the heaviest weapons xcom has access to, have none of the ammo problems of other heavy weapons teams, are immune to panic, can get free shots on enemies moving in close ala assaults, and eventually gain infinite auto-healing given enough turns. EW made the cute little things much stronger, and much more accessible, making having one as your vanguard almost always a good choice.

It's cool to hear that the robot tanks got some love in the expansion. When I play oldschool XCOM my standard skyranger loadout is 1-2 rocket tanks and as many warm bodies I can cram behind them. With rocket tanks and autocannons loaded with HE, I almost feel sorry for the sectoids in the early game. Terror missions are easy if you level the city!

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
So, as a guy that actually enjoys third-person cover shooters (and the awesome first-person cover mechanics in Far Cry 3) is The Bureau with checking out?

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
Tommy Guns and aliens it is then!

I keep getting wrecked by early council missions combined with poo poo luck and bad moves on my part. Thin Men are scary when you have 6 health.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
Outsiders have "a thing" in the game. They are a glorified piece of communications gear that must be captured for plot reasons. It may be a small and unexciting niche, but what do you expect from a HAM radio with a rifle?

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
I think I've finally gotten over the first hump on classic. Almost done with the second month, no squad deaths, I've captured several aliens and carapace armor should be done researching soon. I look forward to several infuriating full-cover veteran deaths in my future. :xcom:

E: of course two of my three snipers were promoted from 55 aim rookies. Why not. Not created equally is fun!

Pvt.Scott fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Feb 19, 2014

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

GuavaMoment posted:

That was a great story and I understand the reason, but seriously never do this. 10 Will soldiers have to go immediately down the ramp to catch plasma for the big boys.

I agree.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Jade Star posted:

Okay, so Catalina "Urban" Sprahl was a clear winner. I went with James "Rebel" Dean, because, c'mon, rebel with out a cause.

I was going to suggest "Spyder" for James Dean. I will second "Gunnerkrig" mainly because it will remind me that I haven't caught up on a year's worth of Gunnerkrig Court.

Pvt.Scott fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Feb 21, 2014

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Jade Star posted:

Well, that's going in the OP with the other bonus stuff. Thanks!

What? They obviously just traced over a picture of a Squaddie. Hardly worth posting.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
Is there a table of mission names that we could edit to be goonier? Operations Anime Waifu and It's Infected sound like fun.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
Yeah, that sounds like a feature, really.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
You'd think that a globe-trotting elite spec. ops. unit would pack a few flash bangs by default. That, and send more than 4 guys with assault rifles to recover a downed UFO. Maybe Bradford is an alien plant?

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
Samantha "Blood Diamond" Beers.

Or maybe "Natty Lite."

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
How about "Calrissian" for Beers, since Billy Dee Williams is the official Colt 45 dude.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Brainamp posted:

Which gives them +20 will. Turns out all depressed people needed was a gigantic robotic exoskeleton to stomp around in. :v:

It would do wonders for me. I'd take a MEC job to fight aliens, or for whatever.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

my dad posted:

LatrineCleanBOT go!

Nano-Mop armed with Meld'N'Glow and ready to deploy, sir!

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
Samantha "SAM JADAMS" Beers

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
I suck at the game, so the DLC missions are more likely than not to be the death knell for my XCOM operation. I feel the rewards are fair.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
The first slingshot mission is terrible because I get half my team murdered trying to capture one muton more often than not. Just stay in one place, drat you! Training roulette has left me with no suppression or disabling abilities on my last two passes on that mission. :smith:

E: training roulette has gifted me with the best undercover operative, though. An assault with gunslinger and sprint!

Pvt.Scott fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Mar 6, 2014

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Green Intern posted:

There is no point in interrogating a mindless space bug, so no.

You could grow your own. :colbert:

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
It would be really cool to play XCOM from the alien side. You play as an Ethereal tasked with terrorizing planet Earth, though you have no idea why. Perform recon, try to get disparate and antagonistic soldiers to work together, retrieve the bio-samples that your overlords just "must" have. At the end of a cycle you get rated on your performance. You have, of course, been saddled with the misfits, rejects, criminals, insane and failed experiments of the Ethereal Empire. Home base doesn't believe for one second that the Earthlings have figured out how to use plasma weapons and are routinely grounding and assaulting your landing craft. Preposterous!

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Eifert Posting posted:

"It's afraid!" :iamafag:

"It wants a hug!" :glomp:

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
My first time on Site Recon I had just unlocked the 5th team member slot and had no weapon upgrades and a bunch of wounded vets. So, 5 rookies went in. 1 rookie came out covered in glory with several promotions. Took the high road to the right and set up a fire team on one of the ship's towers while the world's luckiest rookie ran and hit the button. 4 missed overwatch shots sealed the fate of my fire team, and the survivor did nothing but run. He was surrounded by more and more bugs every turn, but he never got completely surrounded and so could move just far enough to force all the chrysallids to move twice. In the video, you could have just sprinted everyone back to the evac point and been in no danger.

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Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

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Omobono posted:

Now you have to change his nickname to Rocket Launcher
EDIT: or Bazooka or something appropriate to his nationality along these lines.

"Help Desk" seems appropriate, or maybe "Call Center." Long distance tech support!

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