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Shwqa
Feb 13, 2012

DontMindMe posted:

I have been trying to decide how to proceed in regards to refilling.

I've been enjoying the game enough that I am willing to drop $30 on it (might as well make that first 2x bonus count).


Does anyone know if the listed price at the moment is the 2x amount? For example, it says $30 is 1350 diamonds. Does that mean I get 2700 (with only 1350 going towards VIP meter) or am I actually getting 1350, with only 675 going towards VIP meter?

If you get VIP 2 and use a few exp tickets before doing that you would be better off. VIP is more important than getting diamonds. I got $10 of diamonds this week while buying every summon ticket I could.

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DontMindMe
Dec 3, 2010

What could possibly go wrong?

Zotix posted:

So you just kind of go up slowly in VIP level, the more you support the game. I bought $15 earlier and got 1350 diamonds and about half way through VIP 2. Just wondering why they chose refilling over filling for the terminology.

Could be mis-translation. The game has its share of Engrish in it after all.

DontMindMe
Dec 3, 2010

What could possibly go wrong?

Shwqa posted:

If you get VIP 2 and use a few exp tickets before doing that you would be better off. VIP is more important than getting diamonds. I got $10 of diamonds this week while buying every summon ticket I could.

Actually, I am VIP3 with only 271 diamonds to go til VIP4 (whoo offers!)

EDIT: But it looks like it takes 3000 diamonds to go from VIP4 to VIP5...drat.

Maybe I should try to offer my way through 271 diamonds, and then ticket my way to at least 1350. Then I can sit contently at VIP5 forever.

DontMindMe fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Feb 13, 2014

Shwqa
Feb 13, 2012

gently caress yes valentines day event has been announced. 2/13-2/15. There are spender rewards so if you going to use a lot of diamonds save them for those days.

McDragon
Sep 11, 2007

Hooray, I finally cracked the 600,000 power level. Hooray for large arbitrary numbers! Maybe now I can beat this big stupid dragon (actually I think luck is more important because that Mayhem attack is horrible).

Also I ended up with 50 Summon tickets so went for that. Got the guy with all the swords for my 5 star, and he's pretty good now I've evolved him a bit and chucked him some experience. I want one of those pandas though.

With the VIP thing it seems getting diamonds is just so they could pin progression to something rather than it just being paying a certain amount for each VIP level. The VIP rewards are way better than the amount of diamonds you get. Might chuck myself up to VIP4 if I'm still playing in a couple of weeks.

Did make me laugh the first time I went for a refill and it asked me rather brazenly if I wanted to buy $1000 worth of diamonds instead to take advantage of the bonus. No thank you. You know, if I won some kind of ridiculous money mountain in the lottery or something, I'd probably super-whale out on at least one of these freemium games.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008
Kinda nitpicky, but I think it's chinglish rather than engrish especially since they call the New Year's Monster the Nian(年, year) Monster.

Shwqa
Feb 13, 2012

McDragon posted:

Hooray, I finally cracked the 600,000 power level. Hooray for large arbitrary numbers! Maybe now I can beat this big stupid dragon (actually I think luck is more important because that Mayhem attack is horrible).

Also I ended up with 50 Summon tickets so went for that. Got the guy with all the swords for my 5 star, and he's pretty good now I've evolved him a bit and chucked him some experience. I want one of those pandas though.

With the VIP thing it seems getting diamonds is just so they could pin progression to something rather than it just being paying a certain amount for each VIP level. The VIP rewards are way better than the amount of diamonds you get. Might chuck myself up to VIP4 if I'm still playing in a couple of weeks.

Did make me laugh the first time I went for a refill and it asked me rather brazenly if I wanted to buy $1000 worth of diamonds instead to take advantage of the bonus. No thank you. You know, if I won some kind of ridiculous money mountain in the lottery or something, I'd probably super-whale out on at least one of these freemium games.

Hanzen is too bad. I don't like him as much as my sir rogas but he deals more damage. And that dragon is a thorn in my side (for the elite snow mountain dungeon)

Yeah VIP is way more important than anything diamonds can do. I just want till I reach the max exp a VIP ticket can give me and then buy the rest. It cost me zero for VIP1. 1 dollar for VIP2. And $3 for VIP3. That takes a while so if I'm still playing in 2 weeks another 3-5 dollars for vip4 wouldn't be a bad thing.

Zotix
Aug 14, 2011



So what exactly happens the 5th time you do a level of the tower? Is there any benefit once you finish it the 5th time?

Shwqa
Feb 13, 2012

Zotix posted:

So what exactly happens the 5th time you do a level of the tower? Is there any benefit once you finish it the 5th time?

Nothing you just can't do it anymore after that. Lower floor take less energy and take less moves to finish. Therefore you get more star chest and diamonds from lower floors. In order to stop that abuse you can only do that 5 times then you have to move on if you want more rewards.

You can still get the all 4 chest rewards which is double the finishing bonus, but that usually take so long that it is not worth it.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

Kinda nitpicky, but I think it's chinglish rather than engrish especially since they call the New Year's Monster the Nian(年, year) Monster.

Yeah its definitely a Chinese game not Japanese. They use the VIP system pretty commonly. They are pretty rare to be translated since most use stolen art assets but I don't think this one does. They also normally are a HUGE money grab this game seems to only be a huge grab to max your VIP level if you're into that.

McDragon
Sep 11, 2007

Shwqa posted:

And that dragon is a thorn in my side (for the elite snow mountain dungeon)

For me it was the regular Winter Cave one. Only up to stage four or so for the elite mountain one. Got the scaly jerk though. Probably would have got him a try earlier if I'd realised that 15% stat boost thingy had run out.

Also I'm managing to do loads of damage to these event bosses now. Just have to hope one of my heroes gets the boost one day soon, and then it'll be fun. I'm pretty much broke right now in gold terms. About 100,000 or so. Still, team is pretty strong now and I'll be able to add another hero in one more level. Woofgang I think because he's an adorable dog with a cannon. :3:

Also also the word filter on the global chat is hilarious. And very easily bypassed by the looks of things.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008

pixaal posted:

Yeah its definitely a Chinese game not Japanese. They use the VIP system pretty commonly. They are pretty rare to be translated since most use stolen art assets but I don't think this one does. They also normally are a HUGE money grab this game seems to only be a huge grab to max your VIP level if you're into that.

Yeah, now that I think of it, even QQ Messenger has a similar VIP system. I've just never used because it needs a Chinese debit card/bank account.

DontMindMe
Dec 3, 2010

What could possibly go wrong?
Uhhh...I think I just got really lucky, because I just summoned the Pirate Captain Awakening boss. They have so much health though...dunno if we can take it down in time :(

EDIT: Also thinking of creating a thread on another forum I'm on, but can't think of a nice title name.

I am almost tempted to just go with "Pocket Knights - Why can't I hold all these diamonds?" because I'm lazy, but I'm sure I can think of something better...eventually...maybe.

DontMindMe fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Feb 13, 2014

Shwqa
Feb 13, 2012

Oh man the event started. I already spent 800+ diamonds on courage gems. Then bought myself a full Allon. :getin:

Edit: For everyone else fusion stones, honor, and 5* crystals and stone are probably the best value.

Edit2: Nevermind forget the 5* crystals and stones. They only cost about 2.5mill to make, but 5times more expensive than that much money.

Shwqa fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Feb 13, 2014

DontMindMe
Dec 3, 2010

What could possibly go wrong?
Think it would be smart to spend all my diamonds and valentine items on courage gems?

Weissritter
Jun 14, 2012

Shwqa posted:

Oh man the event started. I already spent 800+ diamonds on courage gems. Then bought myself a full Allon. :getin:

Edit: For everyone else fusion stones, honor, and 5* crystals and stone are probably the best value.

Edit2: Nevermind forget the 5* crystals and stones. They only cost about 2.5mill to make, but 5times more expensive than that much money.

So fusion stones and honor are worth it? What about the 5 mil? I know the game shits out gold, but able to take advantage of the 100 lvl 1 rune packs seems good.

Also, any thoughts on what are good exchanges for the roses?

Shwqa
Feb 13, 2012

Weissritter posted:

So fusion stones and honor are worth it? What about the 5 mil? I know the game shits out gold, but able to take advantage of the 100 lvl 1 rune packs seems good.

Also, any thoughts on what are good exchanges for the roses?

Fusion stones are a pain in the rear end to get. Getting a 5* takes like a week of pal points. Honor is great way to make yourself stronger instantly.

Personally I'm going for the money route. I'm going to make all the 5* stones and crystals and I can and then the rest on star chest. But that is because the last event gave me enough honor to max all my techs.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

Jam Buddies

Well I'm an idiot and got diamonds mixed up with those yellow gems, and ended up spending all my diamonds on honor and courage gems.

:smith:

Weissritter
Jun 14, 2012

KittyEmpress posted:

Well I'm an idiot and got diamonds mixed up with those yellow gems, and ended up spending all my diamonds on honor and courage gems.

:smith:

That sucks, but how many courage gems did you get? You could get 5* and 6* hero (pieces) from them.

DontMindMe
Dec 3, 2010

What could possibly go wrong?
I may have done something very stupid.

Shwqa
Feb 13, 2012

DontMindMe posted:

I may have done something very stupid.

Such as?

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

Jam Buddies

Weissritter posted:

That sucks, but how many courage gems did you get? You could get 5* and 6* hero (pieces) from them.

Enough for 68 allon pieces... so I have 75 now. Still rather far off.

DontMindMe
Dec 3, 2010

What could possibly go wrong?

Shwqa posted:

Such as?

Let's just say I didn't end up buying $30 pack due to lapse of judgement.

VIP5 is nice though.

EscortMission
Mar 4, 2009

Come with me
if you want to live.
Where is everyone finding this cool Valentine's stuff? This game is like some kind of hosed up maze, except at the end of every dead end is something to click that makes different numbers go up.

Shwqa
Feb 13, 2012

DontMindMe posted:

Let's just say I didn't end up buying $30 pack due to lapse of judgement.

VIP5 is nice though.

Did you buy the $1000 thing?

EscortMission posted:

Where is everyone finding this cool Valentine's stuff? This game is like some kind of hosed up maze, except at the end of every dead end is something to click that makes different numbers go up.
Event Hall and scroll the top bar. To get the roses needed, you go to the event button and see what you need to complete.

DontMindMe
Dec 3, 2010

What could possibly go wrong?

Shwqa posted:

Did you buy the $1000 thing?

Oh god could you imagine? No I just did the $75 one.

I also have the 2x bonus again thanks to the 600 diamond reward for event.

plehsistential
Jan 29, 2012

death to all avatar havers
Is it worth it getting those recipes for 4star and up evolution mats?

Shwqa
Feb 13, 2012

plehsistential posted:

Is it worth it getting those recipes for 4star and up evolution mats?

Maybe the 6* but I am swimming in 4* and 5* isn't too uncommon.

I piling up spin tickets. Apparently 10,000ish tickets gets you s 6* unit.

DontMindMe
Dec 3, 2010

What could possibly go wrong?

Shwqa posted:

Maybe the 6* but I am swimming in 4* and 5* isn't too uncommon.

I piling up spin tickets. Apparently 10,000ish tickets gets you s 6* unit.

What, you're buying the 320 diamonds --> 50 vouchers? Seems like it is too much for me.

EDIT: I could be wrong though.

DontMindMe fucked around with this message at 08:41 on Feb 13, 2014

milward
Nov 5, 2009

Shwqa posted:

Maybe the 6* but I am swimming in 4* and 5* isn't too uncommon.

Should I sell the scrolls for 3* gear?

They just take space in my warehouse, and I have 3 sets of 3* already.

And it seems like the green and yellow gems are better used to evolve my heroes instead of getting 4* gear?

EDIT: And could I get added to the OP:s list of players? milward- ingame.

milward fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Feb 13, 2014

plehsistential
Jan 29, 2012

death to all avatar havers

milward posted:

Should I sell the scrolls for 3* gear?

They just take space in my warehouse, and I have 3 sets of 3* already.

And it seems like the green and yellow gems are better used to evolve my heroes instead of getting 4* gear?

EDIT: And could I get added to the OP:s list of players? milward- ingame.

Check your albums, if you have all the 3 star gear, then yeah might as well just sell off the recipes. Otherwise, fill out the albums for the bonuses and vouchers they give and just give all the heroes a set of 3 star gear while you start working on getting 4star+

milward
Nov 5, 2009

plehsistential posted:

Check your albums, if you have all the 3 star gear, then yeah might as well just sell off the recipes. Otherwise, fill out the albums for the bonuses and vouchers they give and just give all the heroes a set of 3 star gear while you start working on getting 4star+

I had, so I did. Me and my warehouse thanks you.

EDIT: Where/how do I use the event summon vouchers?

milward fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Feb 13, 2014

Mingus Dew
Dec 30, 2013

Finally, a good reason to punch a teenager in the face!

milward posted:

I had, so I did. Me and my warehouse thanks you.

EDIT: Where/how do I use the event summon vouchers?

You can't right now, but ZQ will be opening up the event summons permanently soon. Just hang on to them for now (you'll find it in the summoning gate once they do).

On an unrelated note, I got Allon today, and then immediately awakened him. Hot drat.

Deadly Chlorine
Nov 8, 2009

The accumulated filth of all the dog poop and hairballs will foam up about their waists and all the catladies and dog crazies will look up and shout "Save us!"
... and I'll look down and whisper
"No."

In as Chlorinus, this is amazingly fun for some reason!

croutonZA
Jan 5, 2011
So I want to drop some money on this thing, but I downloaded this game with a fake US iTunes account because the game isn't available in my region. Anyone know of a reliable site that sells US iTunes gift cards?

Solvency
Apr 28, 2008

Trade, sir! Discover it! This is you, this is a clue. Get a clue, discover trade!
This is probably a stupid question but how do I turn Heroes into Fusion Stones?

plehsistential
Jan 29, 2012

death to all avatar havers

Solvency posted:

This is probably a stupid question but how do I turn Heroes into Fusion Stones?

Fortify -> Adv. Functions -> Refine Hero

SHVPS4DETH
Mar 19, 2009

seen so much i'm going blind
and i'm brain-dead virtually





Ramrod XTreme

plehsistential posted:

Check your albums, if you have all the 3 star gear, then yeah might as well just sell off the recipes. Otherwise, fill out the albums for the bonuses and vouchers they give and just give all the heroes a set of 3 star gear while you start working on getting 4star+

One other thing - if you don't have all 5 spots on your formation filled (the last is at lv70) then keep one each of the 3* gear (or 4* if you've been super-lucky [I haven't]) so that you can immediately equip your new hero when they're unlocked. Unless you're over lv70 already in which case disregard :) But yeah otherwise sell them shits, unless you have the resources to spare (since you really don't need 5k gold in this game basically ever) then you can refine them into weapon stones or use to fortify pearl/big pearl cards.

Oh and no matter how desperate you are for hero fusion stones, don't buy them from the Emporium. Just save up your pal points for the 11x Regular Summon because even if you get the shittiest possible draw you'll still be getting 1 more fusion stone - and usually several more - for the same amount of points.

SHVPS4DETH fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Feb 13, 2014

DontMindMe
Dec 3, 2010

What could possibly go wrong?
That isn't a good sign. I decided to refill myself to VIP6, but when the transaction finished, the game said "Invalid Refill", and then didn't give me anything. iTunes has a record of the transaction though.

Sent an email to their support. Hopefully they'll fix it before the event ends :(

EDIT: Also, once that goes through, I'll setup a boosted trainer room.

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Doji Sekushi
Dec 26, 2006

HI
Discovered this game a few days ago and now I need goon friends.

I'm in as Chef Doji

I need powerful goons to help me farm poo poo with which i get get 5* heroes with.

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