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Jack is Back May 5th I figured there would be a thread on this already (maybe I missed it), but anyway, I am definitely excited for the return of 24. Don't read past this sentence if you don't want any spoilers. Set 4 years after the end of Season 8 of 24, 24: Live Another Day is a limited run TV series set to begin May 5th, 2014. What is a limited run TV series? Basically it's a season of 12 episodes instead of 24. So how will the show, famous for its use of real-time storytelling and seasons spanning a full day to the second, fit in half the time? So far, the explanation is that there will be jumps between certain episodes. So like, maybe one episode will be from 4:00 PM to 5:00 PM, then the next will say "two hours later" and be from 7:00 PM to 8:00 PM. The season will still cover a full 24 hour day, just not all of it will be seen. There is a lot of info on this wiki page, and it appears to be kept up to date as new info is released. Here are some highlights (again, HERE BE SPOILERS):  Kiefer Sutherland will reprise his role as Jack Bauer, former federal agent and now wanted fugitive on the run after the events of season 8. It's not clear yet what he's been doing in the interrim - maybe he carved out a quiet life for himself like he did between season 4 and 5, maybe he's a mercenary for hire in all the countries of NotAmerica.  Mary Lynn Rajskub with a crazy new haircut will reprise Chloe O'Brian, former computer tech for CTU, now apparently gone rogue (spoiler: this is speculated to be because of the loss of her son, Prescott). It's unclear whether she is going to be joining up with Jack or opposing him in the upcoming season.  William Devane will once again play James Heller, who is apparently now the President of the United States. What conflicts could possibly arise between him and Jack???? Other than all of them.  Benjamin Bratt, probably most well known for his role on Law and Order, will play a new character, CIA head Steve Harris.  Stephen Fry will play the British Prime Minister, Kim Raver will reprise Audrey Rains, Jack's former love interest, although she is now married to a character played by Tate Donovan. There is speculation that Carlos Bernard will return to play Tony Almeida, but no confirmation yet. Judy Davis was set to play a widow of a terrorist, but the actress has since dropped out due to personal reasons that prevented her from traveling to London to film. The season will be set in London, and as always, will involve the thwarting of some unspeakable terrorist plot that threatens to overthrow and/or end the world as we know it...forever! The first episode will be 12:00 PM to 1:00 PM. During the Superbowl on February 2nd, Fox aired this trailer for the upcoming season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo4_r5RlBII. The trailer doesn't show much, other than Chloe's wacky new haircut and some very very understated and subtle hints that this season will take place in London. The rest of the known details can be found at the above wiki link. So...anyone else excited? First episode discussion here GAINING WEIGHT... fucked around with this message at 14:49 on May 6, 2014 |
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Are you a longtime watcher of 24 and realized after reading the OP that setting this four years after Season 8 seems a bit wild considering all the time jumps between previous seasons? Are you wondering exactly how Jack still looks so good in what has to be his late sixties or early seventies? Well if so here's a handy timeline of the series that might be of some comfort. This isn't exact, because nothing really was ever set with a hard date in 24, but it's a good approximation. Season 1 - March 2002 18 Month Jump Season 2 - September 2003 (Six Months Later - 24 The Game) Three Year Jump Season 3 - September 2006 18 Month Jump Season 4 - March 2008 18 Month Jump Season 5 - September 2009 20 Month Jump Season 6 - May 2011 Three Year Eight Month Jump 24: Redemption - January 2015 65 Day Jump Season 7 - March 2015 18 Month Jump Season 8 - September 2016 Four Year Jump 24: Live Another Day - Somewhere in late 2020 or early 2021 So based on that, the big question is what is Jack Bauer's age? He was born on 2/2/66 and at the time of new season will be either 54 or 55. Also, for your enjoyment. Based on the above dates. The Presidents of 24! David Palmer: January 2003 - January 2007 (James Prescott as acting President from September 2003 - March 2004) - Did not run for re-election after first term John Keeler: January 2007 - March 2008 - Assassination attempt left him either dead or unable to fulfill duties for other reasons Charles Logan: March 2008 - September 2009 - Forced to resign following the events of the fifth season Hal Gardner: September 2009 - January 2011 - VP under Logan, assumed to have completed his term Wayne Palmer: January 2011 - May 2011 - I guess you would qualify it as assassination, but really he probably wouldn't have died if he had just rested up after the attempt instead of being dumb and working through it Noah Daniels: May 2011 - January 2015 - VP under Palmer, completed his term Allison Taylor: January 2015 - September 2016 - Resigned office after the events of the sixth season Mitchell Hayworth: September 2016 - January 2019 - VP under Taylor, assumed to have completed her term Quick tip to 24 Politicians: VP is the better job. X-O fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Feb 10, 2014 |
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Feb 10, 2014 01:01
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Man the Presidents suck.
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Feb 10, 2014 01:03
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I'm surprised the US government still functions in 24-land given how many presidents have been assassinated or thrown out of office.
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Feb 10, 2014 01:07
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I'd like to imagine that the US in 24-world has some kind of bizzaro hyper-competent Congress keeping the country from falling apart while the Executive Branch plays host to a revolving door of inept President Kennedy/President Nixon clones.
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Deadpool posted:Allison Taylor: January 2015 - September 2016 - Resigned office after the events of the sixth season I assume you mean eighth. This chart is pretty cool. I remember doing the math and realizing Jack Bauer is significantly older than Kiefer Sutherland but I never calculated exactly how much.
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Feb 11, 2014 04:49
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Whens the last time Kim showed up? I stopped watching after season 6. Did the cougar get her?
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Feb 11, 2014 05:55
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Whens the last time Kim showed up? I stopped watching after season 6. Did the cougar get her? She's married and has a child. Was last seen at the beginning of the last season.
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Feb 11, 2014 06:11
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Deadpool posted:She's married and has a child. Was last seen at the beginning of the last season. What about Chase?
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Feb 11, 2014 06:48
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What about Chase? She dropped Chase after season 4, started dating her much older therapist, and then broke up with him and had a kid with another guy. She also eats ribs when she is drunk.
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Feb 11, 2014 06:53
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What about Chase? Got a golden replacement hand and a (very) slightly smarter blonde to bang.
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Feb 11, 2014 06:54
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What about Chase? Probably dead. He lived in Valencia. And Valencia went boom in the sixth season.
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Feb 11, 2014 06:55
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With regards to the timeline, I think the producers have previously said that any current season is in the "now".
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Feb 11, 2014 12:05
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Deadpool posted:Probably dead. He lived in Valencia. And Valencia went boom in the sixth season. Poor bastard; he loses a hand, Jack's respect, and Kim, then gets nuked for his troubles.
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evobatman posted:With regards to the timeline, I think the producers have previously said that any current season is in the "now". I seem to remember them saying 24 is always set just slightly in the future. They always seem to have tech that's a few years ahead of reality. Of course, in early seasons this meant like, devices that could show satellite maps on a touchscreen, which we now call "iPads". Makes u thnk~
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Feb 11, 2014 20:39
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I can't wait. I love this drat show.
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Feb 11, 2014 22:29
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Wikipedia has a pretty crappy season summary, but I don't want to have to read each individual episodes plot. Does anyone have any good pages that tell the story of each season in a few hundred words? I stopped watching this around Season 5 but I fondly remember those couple of years in my teens where I would watch this with my best friend and completely lose our poo poo each week. It will be fun to have it all summarised in one neat place.
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xcore posted:Wikipedia has a pretty crappy season summary, but I don't want to have to read each individual episodes plot. Does anyone have any good pages that tell the story of each season in a few hundred words? The show is so batshit that it is impossible to tell the story in a few hundred words. The first third has one plot, then the second third had another and it ends with a completely different one. They usually have a common thread and a couple of moles. bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Feb 12, 2014 |
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bobkatt013 posted:The show is so batshit that it is impossible to tell the story in a few hundred wars. The first third has one plot, then the second third had another and it ends with a completely different one. They usually have a common thread and a couple of moles. Well a couple of thousand then, whatever it takes to get a concise but informative summary.
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The perimeters are always breached. There I just summarized the entire series for you.
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xcore posted:Wikipedia has a pretty crappy season summary, but I don't want to have to read each individual episodes plot. Does anyone have any good pages that tell the story of each season in a few hundred words? Season 6: Jack is given back to the US by China to be given over to Islamic terrorists (I think). Escapes by BITING OUT A GUY'S JUGULAR. (Awesome) Runs around in an unflattering white long sleeve t-shirt. Stops a train bomb by kicking the bomber out the back of the train as he explodes. Shoots recurring Agent Curtis played by Roger Cross (Roger Cross always dies) because Roger Cross wanted to kill a former terrorist that Jack needed alive for peace talks or something. There's a terrible subplot with horrible implications where everyone is super paranoid about increased Islamic terrorism and there's this middle eastern teenage boy whose parents have gone missing and all his neighbours are shunning him because he's brown. But this lovely white family take him in. Then it turns out he IS a terrorist and he threatens the wife and son to force the dad/husband to go and help the terrorists. By the end of episode 4 this chain of events leads to a NUKE going off in suburban Los Angeles. (Right after Jack is upset by the fact he had to shoot Roger Cross) This Shameless Terror Pornography is around the peak of this season - it's all downhill from here, including the next seasons. Then it turns out Evil Bald Man who was telling Evil President Logan what to do in season 5 is Jack's brother. Jack tortures him with a plastic bag. He eventually dies. He also had a wife played by Rena Sofer and a son. People speculated that the son was secretly Jack's because there seemed to be a thing between him and Rena Sofer - but nothing came of this. At CTU: a brown lady proves that not ALL brown people are evil before never appearing in the series again, recurring character Bill Buchanan is there and Ricky Shroder is a special agent for some reason. Chloe is also there. A lot of really boring stuff happens and that's why most people don't like this season. Then Jack's dad, inexplicably NOT played by Donald Sutherland, turns out to be the real bad guy and was working with the Chinese or something. So Jack brutally kills the head Islamic terrorist midway through the season and eventually has a hilariously video-game-like shootout on an oil rig complete with explosive barrels. He leaves his father to die there. Jack finds out Audrey Raines is, like, comatose and a little r-worded now after the Chinese tortured her for info on him. Her dad, James Heller, is all "Look at what you've done." Jack looks out to sea and is sad. END OF SEASON. I think that's it? Sorry it was longer than intended. Aaaaaaand the next seasons were even worse and culminated in a toothless, unsatisfying ending because they wanted the option to do something like this new series. VagueRant fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Feb 12, 2014 |
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Feb 12, 2014 07:45
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VagueRant posted:
Also the kid is Kumar.
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Feb 12, 2014 08:25
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I didn't watch the season but I will still never forgive them for ruining Tony with Season 7.
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Feb 12, 2014 08:44
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Stairmaster posted:Also the kid is Kumar. His name Is AKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKmed
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I used to play the good old Jack Bauer Power Hour in college, so this is like coming back for a homecoming or something. Quick tip of the day, for fans who bailed in season six: Do give season seven a go. The new setting in Washington DC and largely new cast is absolutely worth your time. Season eight is a strange beast with absolutely awful plots (katee sackhoff's character) but the last few episodes are friggin great for their lunacy. They're crazy, but they're also crazy in the BEST WAY POSSIBLE. Also, if anyone wants a warm up before the new series, have you tried the 24 game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r412OrRORf0 The actual gameplay is mediocre, but its basically ten hours of straight fanservice. It wraps up a dangling plot thread from 24's early years and tells a pretty dang decent story.
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Feb 12, 2014 11:26
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Anyone read the 24 book series? I'm sure the back of one had Jack breaking into area 51, but I didn't actually read it.
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Feb 12, 2014 11:53
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24 The Game has a terrific story but actually playing the game is lovely beyond words
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Narcissus1916 posted:I used to play the good old Jack Bauer Power Hour in college, so this is like coming back for a homecoming or something. Season 8 also has an amazing scene where Jack dressed like Iron Man attacks the former VP car, and the VP shits his pants since he knows nothing can stop Jack. The best thing about season 5 is when the kid that is a major plot point is just forgotten.
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I'm going to recap season 7 based off my memory of it. Because I'm bored, because I care too much about this show that I hate 3/8s of, and I am willing to labour under the delusion that someone out there enjoyed the last recap. Season 7: Jack is in court, in Washington, defending his use of torture. This is terrible for two reasons. ONE: they give us an example that happened in-between seasons instead of one of the many, many times he has used torture over the course of the actual series. Which would have been far more interesting. TWO: it is a terrible and morally repugnant idea to bring real world ideas and arguments about torture into this fantasy world where there's ALWAYS a ticking time bomb that might actually merit torture and where torture works and where every part of LA can be driven to within a commercial break. (Side note: Jack Bauer only became Torture Man in season 4, the first three seasons don't deserve that taint) Anyway, Tony Almeida (AKA that guy who was always the best character) has shown up alive after we saw him die in season 5! But now he has a goatee and a black leather jacket so we know he's evil. The feds reluctantly bring Jack Bauer in to stop him. But then it turns out he's actually working undercover with terrorists to stop them. And he's being helped by Bill Buchanan and Chloe O'Brian. So you think maybe it's okay that they brought him back after all.  The bad guys start off as some kind of mercenary terrorists that recruited Tony (by reviving him in season 5 - I think they may have worked for Robocop - who "killed" Tony). But then it turns out the real bad guys are these African dudes from a fictional country, who vaguely relate to the awful mini-movie 24: Redemption. They take the White House hostage before they get blown up - I think Bill Buchanan dies while exploding them. And THEN the bad guys are a PMC run by Jon Voight in a super secure compound because it was 2009 and every show/game/movie with a military bent was doing the Evil PMC thing. It turns out there's ANOTHER bad guy behind everything including possibly the events of seasons 5 and 6, and Tony Almeida was after revenge on this guy (for the death of his wife way back at the start of season 5. She was a great character too. Remember when this show had great characters?) And so it turns out Tony was actually evil and lovely and stupid enough to murder innocent people (in a really weird way, with this FBI agent dude he kind of chokes with one hand or something?) so he can get revenge on a guy who killed one person. Character ruined forever. Worst season of the show.  Jack stops him from getting his revenge. Non-lethally. I think Tony and the big bad get arrested. Oh and Jack teams up with an FBI agent called Renee Walker throughout the season and her arc is that she was against Jack's torturing but then at the end she learns that torturing people is okay and goes to do it to someone. Seriously. (Aside from ruining Tony, I also thought this is where the show lost any real tension it had and just got incredibly stupid and completely boring. A lot of people think this was a good season and maybe just enjoyed it as dumb fun? I don't get it.  )EDIT: this was also the season where Jack killed a guy by throwing a screwdriver at him! Think about the physics of that! VagueRant fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Feb 12, 2014 |
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Feb 12, 2014 15:04
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bobkatt013 posted:Season 8 also has an amazing scene where Jack dressed like Iron Man attacks the former VP car, and the VP shits his pants since he knows nothing can stop Jack. The car is bullet-proof and bomb-proof, but nothing is Bauer-proof.
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bobkatt013 posted:The best thing about season 5 is when the kid that is a major plot point is just forgotten. Do you mean Behrooz? That was season 4...it was kind of hilarious that we followed this family and their activities all day and in the end all they did was a) deliver a briefcase to the people who kidnapped Heller (which I guess was the nuclear override?) and then b) die. That was it. Behrooz kills dad, Marwan kills mom, CTU gives Behrooz to Marwan's people and he disappears into thin air. Apparently from then on a character that disappeared without any closure was said to have been "Behrooz'd". For super short season summaries, here are the basics: 6: Jack is brought back from China to be traded to the terrorists for crucial information. Jack discovers these terrorists are the ones actually attacking the US, and escapes. He chases a man named Abu Fayed, who has suitcase nukes and plans to (and at one point, succeeds in) detonate them in the US. After defeating Fayed, we discover Jack's dad and/or the Chinese are the real bad guys, and it all ends with Jack rescuing his nephew off an oil rig and leaving his dad to die as it kerplodes. 7: Jack is in DC on trial and is called away by the FBI to help find Tony Almeida, now a terrorist after losing his wife in season 5. The main bad guys are African military leaders called Ike Dubaku and Benjamin Juma. They attack the White House, but are eventually thwarted. Then it turns out that Jon Voight's character was using the Africans to test a bio-weapon that his company developed. Yadda yadda, he's eventually thwarted too. 8: CTU is back, and now in New York. Jack is told about an assassination attempt on the president of a fictional middle eastern country hilariously called "Kamistan". This president is at the UN to sign some treaty or some poo poo. There is also some Russian (I think) with access to nuclear fuel rods who plans to set off a radiation bomb in NY. This is stopped, and Jack and Renee Walker (FBI agent from S7) hook up before she's shot in the head, causing Jack to go a bit fucknuts, and also we find out Logan is still alive and is buddies with the Russians and also the Russian president was the one really behind it all, so Jack is aboutta kill Souvarov, and then he doesn't, and he's arrested and almost executed, but Chloe finds him in time with a drone and allows him to escape. The end.
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sportsgenius86 posted:24 The Game has a terrific story but actually playing the game is lovely beyond words The best part was when Jack is forced to infiltrate the CIA building or the evil dude kills Kim. My friend invented a minigame to see how many civilians you can knock out as Jack before the "Mission Fail" message triggers. High score 2. Echo Chamber fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Feb 12, 2014 |
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I’m done talking with you, you understand me? You’ve read my file. The first thing I’m going to do is take out your right eye, and then I’m gonna move over and take out your left, and then I’m going to cut you. I’m gonna keep cutting you until you give me the information that I need. Do you understand me? --Jack Bauer, torture man
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Good news-- since this is technically season 9, that means the bad guy won't be Arabs with nukes. Seriously check out the even-numbered seasons. 2- Syed Ali, nuke 4- Habib Marwan, nuclear plant override, and later a nuclear missile 6- Abu Fayed, suitcase nukes 8- Kamistani guy (gently caress if I remember his name) nuclear fuel rods it's like loving clockwork.
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I think the whole Behrooz thing was resolved on the DVD set in a deleted scene, IIRC.
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Retail Slave posted:I think the whole Behrooz thing was resolved on the DVD set in a deleted scene, IIRC. Since it's deleted, they could technically retcon it and pretend it didn't happen, but they have no reason to.
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Curtis' death is the only time I really couldn't laugh and go with the flow, it was just too dumb and pointless and made no sense whatsoever.
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I stopped watching in Season 7, never saw any of 8 or the movie. Maybe I'll marathon them just to get caught up before the new season. But really, there's only one thing I want from from the new season, because even after reading breif synopsis it appears she still hasn't shown back up: Mandy: Freelance Terrorist for Hire. 
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ninjahedgehog posted:Good news-- since this is technically season 9, that means the bad guy won't be Arabs with nukes. Seriously check out the even-numbered seasons. Well in season 2 the real bad guy wasn't Arab, it was the rich white defense contractor guy. I love how Season 2 constantly throws you a blindside after getting the audience to think the Arabs are all the bad guys. Like with the sister's fiance. HAHA dumb overly suspicious girl, turns out the brown Arab with the funny name isn't the terrorist at all, it's your perfect little sister. Having that happen in the season following 9/11 was pretty bold of them I think. So was the end bad guy being the rich white American and not the nameless Middle Eastern country. Also one of the terrorist lackeys has a change of heart and refuses to keep going with the plan to nuke LA.
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Season 2 was great like that. But man alive, the random cutting to a wedding we don't care about with no familiar characters was a little jarring.DrBouvenstein posted:Mandy: Freelance Terrorist for Hire. Other fun behind the scenes trivia: there was a special feature with the producers way back in season 2 talking about the future. One guy was like "We're thinking about exploring Jack's family, like his father!" And Joel Surnow (I think) gave some really passive aggressive, dismissive response because that was obviously a stupid idea. GAINING WEIGHT... posted:8: CTU is back, and now in New York. Jack is told about an assassination attempt on the president of a fictional middle eastern country hilariously called "Kamistan". This president is at the UN to sign some treaty or some poo poo. There is also some Russian (I think) with access to nuclear fuel rods who plans to set off a radiation bomb in NY. This is stopped, and Jack and Renee Walker (FBI agent from S7) hook up before she's shot in the head, causing Jack to go a bit fucknuts, and also we find out Logan is still alive and is buddies with the Russians and also the Russian president was the one really behind it all, so Jack is aboutta kill Souvarov, and then he doesn't, and he's arrested and almost executed, but Chloe finds him in time with a drone and allows him to escape. The end. Like, it just shows what a cartoon they turned Jack into. They took him too far. I mean, christ, he had less of a reaction to his wife of 20 years' death. 7 might be the dumbest season they did, but 8 ruined Jack Bauer for me. Then there was this weird muddled ending for him staring up at a drone and saying goodbye to Chloe and it was so dumb and such a crummy note to end the series on. "Well, he's on the run AGAIN, I guess." And yeah, there was the weird plot with Katee Sackhoff where she was being blackmailed by some guys she went to school with who figured out she'd faked her secret agent credentials or something. She kept ducking out of CTU to deal with them and eventually her boyfriend, Agent Freddie Prinze Jr shot them. Possibly due to a misunderstanding. Then after all that bad drama, she turned out to be the mole! It was weird!
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