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Ray Farmer new Browns GM. Banner steps down as CEO. Lombardi's leaving the team. Press conference @ 11am. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10435830/cleveland-browns-overhaul-front-office-name-ray-farmer-new-gm Apparently Lombardi is gone now, Banner and the rest are remaining until after the draft, and then are gone, but Farmer takes control now. Breer just pointed out this article about new GM Farmer reads a lot differently then when it was written last week: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000323839/article/ray-farmer-browns-ready-to-redefine-history-books quote:Browns assistant general manager Ray Farmer was considered a top candidate for the Miami Dolphins' GM position, but said this week that he "didn't finish the process" for a reason. 
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Why fire them after the coach search and not before.
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Feb 11, 2014 16:49
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Everything we said about the Browns yesterday was right. 
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Feb 11, 2014 16:50
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ZenVulgarity posted:Why fire them after the coach search and not before. Why does a dog chase its own tail? Why do fools fall in love? Why did David Bowie wait 30 years to release another good album?
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Feb 11, 2014 16:51
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I can't wait for the full story here to leak. I bet it's gonna be epically petty.
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Feb 11, 2014 16:51
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quote:Browns assistant general manager Ray Farmer was considered a top candidate for the Miami Dolphins' GM position, but said this week that he "didn't finish the process" for a reason. It's getting pretty exhausting going back and forth between lol Browns and lol Dolphins constantly
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Feb 11, 2014 16:53
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Declan MacManus posted:Why does a dog chase its own tail? Why do fools fall in love? Why did David Bowie wait 30 years to release another good album? You had me until Bowie.
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Feb 11, 2014 16:55
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I almost posted a doge meme, because this is so brownsy. I just don't get what changed in Haslam's mind. Why let them fire Chud and choose next coaches and THEN fire them. What changed? What the gently caress? I'm still in shock.
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Feb 11, 2014 16:56
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Holy poo poo
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Feb 11, 2014 16:56
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I mean that in a good way.
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Feb 11, 2014 16:57
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who is actually going to be in charge of all the pre draft/free agency scouting at this point? who has actual decision making ability? why is banner not out right now instead of 3 months from now?
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Feb 11, 2014 16:57
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@WillBurge 8m #Browns source told said org had a meeting in morn. Haslam walked in, announced Banner & Lombardi were gone & walked back out. Dead silence Haha
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Feb 11, 2014 16:57
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What the gently caress.... I think my team relishes in being disfunctional as possible. I truly wish these could have been fired before this godawful coaching search went down.
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Feb 11, 2014 16:58
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Goetta posted:Haha Do you think he was aiming for more of a Donald Trump or Vince McMahon level "You're Fired!"?
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Feb 11, 2014 16:59
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Doctor Butts posted:I just don't get what changed in Haslam's mind. Yeah I'm really curious about this and looking forward to finding out the official explanation and the leaks. But honestly Pettine isn't a completely terrible choice as far as I can tell so other than gutting Chud for no reason this could potentially work out for the Browns. I wonder if Farmer had any say in hiring Pettine? I'm guessing NFL Network be carrying the press conference?
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Feb 11, 2014 17:01
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So how does it get worse from here? And does this mean a JFFless Browns?
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Feb 11, 2014 17:02
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Atticus Finch posted:So how does it get worse from here? And does this mean a JFFless Browns? Haslam could get pinched by the feds at any time.
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Feb 11, 2014 17:03
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Move the Browns again.
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Feb 11, 2014 17:03
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Live reaction from Chudcam:
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Feb 11, 2014 17:04
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The only bad thing about this is that Pettine is now probably coaching the first and last year of his contract. I wonder what Chud thinks. I assume someone somewhere talked to Haslem and made him wise up to the situation since he wasn't around much last year.
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Feb 11, 2014 17:05
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Somehow the Browns have backdoored themselves into a decent GM and head coach, after inexplicably firing a promising head coach and then bungling the coaching search. This is the football managing equivalent of the dropping the Uzi scene from True Lies and very unlike the Browns.
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Feb 11, 2014 17:06
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I'm going to be sad
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Feb 11, 2014 17:06
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Kalli posted:Do you think he was aiming for more of a Donald Trump or Vince McMahon level "You're Fired!"? I hope Haslam made them join the Kiss My rear end Club.
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Feb 11, 2014 17:07
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I'm more happy about these two idiots being gone than the Chud firing... ...but what the gently caress is wrong with us? 
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Feb 11, 2014 17:08
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There is no  big enough.Who the gently caress is in charge of this team?
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Feb 11, 2014 17:08
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Goetta posted:@WillBurge 8m Oh man that fuckin rules
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Feb 11, 2014 17:09
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And so ends Ryan Mallett's career.
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Feb 11, 2014 17:11
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I really didn't think I've have anything to get excited about until the combine but the Browns prove me wrong once more.
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Feb 11, 2014 17:12
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This poo poo sounds like something that would happen in the ABA
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Feb 11, 2014 17:13
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Jimmy Haslam is the worst owner in the league by a mile these days. It's pretty hard to believe he was a minority owner of the most stable franchise in the league before going to Cleveland and turning out this joke of a franchise. I'm really sad for my mom
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Feb 11, 2014 17:13
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Kalli posted:Breer just pointed out this article about new GM Farmer reads a lot differently then when it was written last week: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000323839/article/ray-farmer-browns-ready-to-redefine-history-books Oh my. He certainly had to know what was coming. quote:"I think Cleveland is primed and I think we're in a position to redefine the history books," Farmer told Mary Kay Cabot of The Plain Dealer. "I think change is on the horizon and I didn't want to miss what's going to happen in Cleveland." Also, I love that the NFL's own site refers to Cleveland's front office as a clown car.
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Feb 11, 2014 17:14
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"A lot of people in this city don't, but those people don't know him. He's one of my dearest friends at this point. He's intelligent, he's smart, he's witty, he challenges me every day to be better, so I like where I'm at and I like him. There are no assurances in the NFL and coming off a 4-12 season, people are skeptical, people don't understand why some decisions were made inside the building, but, again, I think inevitably, I trust the process we're going through."
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I feel bad for any Browns fans. The whole franchise is basically in limbo with Haslam at the helm. They have some great talent on the team as well. What a waste.
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Feb 11, 2014 17:15
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I also do not feel nearly as bad for Farmer turning down the Dolphins now
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FizFashizzle posted:who is actually going to be in charge of all the pre draft/free agency scouting at this point? who has actual decision making ability? why is banner not out right now instead of 3 months from now? That squid that picks the World Cup would have been better than Lombardi, so its looking up
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Feb 11, 2014 17:16
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Bigass Moth posted:The only bad thing about this is that Pettine is now probably coaching the first and last year of his contract. What makes you think Haslam wasn't around much last year? When's the last time an owner was at the press conference after a coach's firing?
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Feb 11, 2014 17:18
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Sorry Browns bros. Eventually things will get better- isn't that what that ad campaign is about with all the gay Cleveland fans?
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Feb 11, 2014 17:18
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Rap posted:What makes you think Haslam wasn't around much last year? When's the last time an owner was at the press conference after a coach's firing? Clark Hunt at least, but that was as much to keep Pioli in the background until he finally decided to fire him which was pretty much going to happen.
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Feb 11, 2014 17:20
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Apparently this has been a rumor for a while now? http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2014/2/11/5401206/who-saw-the-michael-lombardi-firing-coming-and-the-source-of-joe I wasn't following the Carousel thread, so it might be OFN. First I've heard it was rumored and I guess Manning had a hand in it.
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Rap posted:What makes you think Haslam wasn't around much last year? When's the last time an owner was at the press conference after a coach's firing? All reports said he was in town maybe one day of the week, and for games. That's not really enough to have a true understanding of what's happening. He was err, kind of busy with the Flying J stuff all year. Just speculation on my part, but it would appear he got more info between the day they fired Chud and today that soured him on Lombardi and Banner...otherwise they would have been gone earlier and not involved in the coaching search. Doctor Butts posted:Apparently this has been a rumor for a while now?
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Anyway maybe it's more horrifying if you do think Haslam wasn't involved this year, because that just means in the 6 weeks after the season, after not having paid attention to it, he agreed with Lombardi and Banner to fire Chudzinski then decided to fire them too after that. The man is an absolute piece of poo poo, a horrible manager and a scam artist who got rich off of breaking the law and defrauding smaller business owners. thank you
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