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regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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The last episode was kinda awkward -- the only way the Pres calling off Tusk can be justified is if the Pres is a nice guy who doesn't want to take out a "possibly" innocent Frank. But he's clearly not above getting his hands dirty, since he instituted the whole Tusk nails Frank / gets pardon plan in the first place. So it felt like a really weird, forced moment for his character and was probably the biggest false note of the series so far.

I appreciated that the hacker stuff was technically far more accurate than in virtually any other tv show I've seen. Also a nice touch is that not everyone is using "Sponsering Company" phones and computers -- there were iPhones, Blackberries, Androids, and even Windows phones used, and both Apple and PC computers.

Some things were over complicated: if Frank has that super hacker guy in his pocket (via proxies), why not just do something like put child porn on that reporter's computer? Or Tusk's computer? Get them both out of the way without the need for layers of complication. I mean, that'd be a perfect way to eliminate Tusk, since there's no way the president would give a child porn guy a pardon. Could have done that in episode 4 or so ... but of course, that eliminates one of the primary conflicts for Frank way too early. And it'd also give Frank basically a trump card to be played whenever. That's the problem with introducing a character with that much power, it's like trying to make Superman feel threatened in movies. Tough to do.

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regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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twoot posted:

One thing that did distract was the use of CG environments. I realise that 95%+ of the audience will never notice, but to me the heavy blurring they used to mask the CG just made it stand out.
The only part that really stuck out as poorly done to me was the Stamper / Rachel woods showdown. The two-shots seemed fine like they were shot on location (or maybe decent cgi), the closeups were really poorly greenscreened.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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Supercar Gautier posted:

There's a bit in Claire's TV interview that made me certain that they're going to stick with this ending.

I think in general the British version can offer a bit of a roadmap for what might come next. On the British show, Francis is Prime Minister in 4 episodes, and the rest is all about him fending off threats and cementing a legacy.

I do think the next major victory Frank can attain for himself is re-election. It's not as juicy or audacious as stealing the presidency, but re-election will be of symbolic importance to him because it's how he will legitimize himself in history. Realistically, there must be a lot of noise in the media and popular opinion about the fact that the sitting President was never on the ticket. The only way for him to fully silence that will be through popular vote.

The show could give him some formidable opposition through a primary challenger within his own party, and/or a charismatic Republican opponent. And considering that there's still loose ends about what went on in the first season, such an opponent could become armed with some dangerous ammo. There's plenty to work with.

How far into the old president (can't remember his name)'s tenure did he resign? If he had served 2+ years, Frank could technically win re-election twice, yeah? The max term is ten years, if you take over for a president that didn't serve out his term (i.e., Lyndon Johnson could have run again since he only served a year and a few months of JFK's term)

e: S2 takes place over the course of exactly 1 year. Assuming S1 was a year as well, Frank could be up for re-election twice.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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Lycus posted:

This was all before the mid-term election, so yeah, Walker was president for a bit less than two years.
Ah, that's right. Poor timing on Frank's part then -- max term of ~6.5 years, give or take a month or two.
If he'd waited a few months to complete his "undermine Walker" plan, he could have theoretically had 10 years.

regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Feb 16, 2014

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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Michael Corleone posted:

E: Actually, I think he would get 2 terms. The President was elected in 2012 and took office 1-20-13. The season end a few weeks before 2-13-15, so the timing is ambiguous probably because Netflix can then play with this fact when planning future plot points.

Can't be, because the midterms (4 Nov 2014) haven't happened yet -- that's one of the key points around the impeachment deal. So the latest the last episode can be is 3 Nov 2014 (and there's no indication that the midterms are being held the next day -- no imminent election / campaign talk). Assuming Frank wins in 2016, by the Jan 20 2021 (when the 2020 election winner would take office) he'll have served a minimum of 6 years 2.5 months and so will be ineligible for another full term.

regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Feb 16, 2014

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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Michael Corleone posted:

in either the first episode it was 2-13-14
I don't remember this, what is this based on?

e: according to http://house-of-cards.wikia.com/wiki/Frank_Underwood (take with a grain of salt), his birthday is in July, which means by the end of the assumed term he'll have served almost exactly 2.5 years.

regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Feb 16, 2014

regulargonzalez
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Michael Corleone posted:

But, Clair cheats too so this comparison doesn't make much sense :(

One detail Brown did confirm was his first-hand knowledge of an affair
between Hillary Clinton and Vincent Foster. “It’s a fact,” he said to the
audience. In an interview after his speech, Brown said he used to speak to
Mrs. Clinton about it, saying she admitted the affair to him. He added that
every personal action he saw between Mrs. Clinton and Foster supported that, including kissing, groping, and overt sexual behavior.

Brown also said that both Mr. and Mrs. Clinton knew about each other’s
affairs.

http://www.wnd.com/1998/11/3397/#KYEqMhIvjHAe4002.99

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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skooma512 posted:

I wonder who would win in a scheme-off, Frank or Cancer-Man from The X-Files?

Varys

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
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Lycus posted:

Honestly, at least in the TV series, so far he's yet to perform any political masterstrokes.

A lot of the theories inspired from the books about him (as well as p much every character) unfortunately don't / can't be conveyed well on the show

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regulargonzalez
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Combat Pretzel posted:

Maybe it's because English isn't my main language and/or I don't know poo poo about US politics, but a lot of the time I was just ":psyduck: ...the gently caress is going on?" Of course I noticed the scheming, but boy...

Seems like the show would be confusing as gently caress to anyone not familiar with the political system here in the US. Many (most?) countries use a parliamentary system and the ramifications a legislator becoming president without a single vote cast for him would be kind of lost. A very bad analogy (if you have a prime minister) would be the mayor of a city scheming his way to be prime minister without ever serving in parliament.

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