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| Verity Lambert |
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| John Wiles |
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| Innes Lloyd |
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| Derrick Sherwin |
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| Barry Letts |
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| Phillip Hinchcliffe |
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62 | 8.91% |
| Graham Williams |
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3 | 0.43% |
| John Nathan-Turner |
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15 | 2.16% |
| Philip Segal |
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3 | 0.43% |
| Russel T Davies |
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106 | 15.23% |
| Steven Moffat |
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114 | 16.38% |
| Son Goku |
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324 | 46.55% |
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Chucat posted:I don't watch news about TV. My point was that it wasn't limited to just the specialist tv press, you must have just been lucky.
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marktheando posted:My point was that it wasn't limited to just the specialist tv press, you must have just been lucky. Also it was a thread title for at least one of the past threads over the last 9 months or so.
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Mar 16, 2014 16:33
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Chucat posted:I don't watch news about TV. It was on the front page of newspapers
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Mar 16, 2014 16:38
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Maxwell Lord posted:I just got back from Planet Comicon in KC where I went to Sylvester McCoy's panel and got his autograph afterwards. He spent maybe a few minutes up on the dais, the entire panel was just him walking up and down the aisles answering questions and telling stories and being charming. Amazingly energetic. Just like he planned. 
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Mar 16, 2014 16:54
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I really hope we get a pure historical and Capaldi in a bigass hat. Is that too much to ask?
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Mar 16, 2014 18:05
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The TARDIS lands in France in the early 17th century and hijinks ensue when the Doctor is mistaken for Cardinal Richelieu.
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Mar 16, 2014 18:47
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Basically, if your strategy to avoid casting spoilers that are printed in giant flaming letters on every surface of the earth is to hide under a rock, then not reading the Something Awful thread about that particular TV show should be a part of your rock hiding strategy. I'm currently listening to Sandman (just finished the first part) and it seems like they filtered half of the voices to the point where it's difficult to understand, and then to add background noise, they recorded the entire audio underwater. It's interesting so far, though.
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Mar 16, 2014 20:33
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Bicyclops posted:Basically, if your strategy to avoid casting spoilers that are printed in giant flaming letters on every surface of the earth is to hide under a rock, then not reading the Something Awful thread about that particular TV show should be a part of your rock hiding strategy. The early Big Finish plays suffer a lot from near enough all alien voices being just "pitch shifted and recorded from inside a bin".
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Mar 16, 2014 21:03
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Bicyclops posted:Basically, if your strategy to avoid casting spoilers that are printed in giant flaming letters on every surface of the earth is to hide under a rock, then not reading the Something Awful thread about that particular TV show should be a part of your rock hiding strategy. It's kind of hard listening to some of the old audios because of those issues. I listened to The Holy Terror recently and the opening scene is in a cell with lots of echoes, and drat if it wasn't hard to hear. A character in Arrangements for War was also speaking through a speaker for a short time, and I had to stop walking and focus entirely on the audio to pick out what he was saying. I think it's more that the new audios are so much more well-designed than the old audios are actually bad, though. Dark Eyes came out right after I listened to the Omega, Davros, Master trilogy and hearing the difference in confidence between those was staggering.
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Mar 16, 2014 21:04
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Metal Loaf posted:The TARDIS lands in France in the early 17th century and hijinks ensue when the Doctor is mistaken for Cardinal Richelieu.
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Mar 16, 2014 21:21
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So I started listening to Spare Parts today, and I think I caught a neat little touch. Nysaa's cover story is that she's from "up" in the South District and she's just visiting "down" in the North. Given that Mondas is upside-down Earth, that's pretty clever.
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Mar 16, 2014 21:23
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marktheando posted:You really are, that news was everywhere- any British news source, or any international news source that deals with tv or sci fi. Are you complaining about being spoiled? Because casting stuff doesn't count as a spoiler in TV IV. For example it is not a spoiler for me to say that Keeley Hawes will be appearing in the next series. I said this at the time, and i'll say it again: Other than the last two episodes of doctor who and something awful dot com, i hadnt seen the name "Peter capaldi" in any internet, print, or video media form. Dumb rule is dumb and spoiled me on a big reveal that i had with the last two doctor regenerations. (I've also been hit with spoilers for game of thrones, house of cards, and formula 1, thanks SA!)
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Mar 16, 2014 21:25
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AradoBalanga posted:If this gives Capaldi the excuse to channel his Malcolm Tucker side, then I'm all down for it. I was thinking he could channel his Cardinal Richilieu side, actually.
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Say I don't think I've posted this in ages and I just re-upped it to Tumblr, so HERE are the QR codes for an Animal Crossing recreation of the Sixth Doctor's coat that I made AGES BACK.
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Mar 16, 2014 21:27
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MattD1zzl3 posted:I said this at the time, and i'll say it again: Other than the last two episodes of doctor who and something awful dot com, i hadnt seen the name "Peter capaldi" in any internet, print, or video media form. Dumb rule is dumb and spoiled me on a big reveal that i had with the last two doctor regenerations. No one cares that you're a dumb baby who is getting upset because something that made national headlines was spoiled to you.
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MattD1zzl3 posted:I said this at the time, and i'll say it again: Other than the last two episodes of doctor who and something awful dot com, i hadnt seen the name "Peter capaldi" in any internet, print, or video media form. Dumb rule is dumb and spoiled me on a big reveal that i had with the last two doctor regenerations. Well you should probably watch The Thick of It then. And the forum should cater to the majority, who will be exposed to news like a new Doctor, but don't want to go to the spoiler thread to discuss it, since that thread is anything goes and there are real, actual, spoilers there. Also Formula 1? I'm pretty sure live sporting events are fair game man. But I do sympathise about Game of Thrones, I got spoiled for some major poo poo myself when those spoiler avatars were going around.
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DoctorWhat posted:Say I don't think I've posted this in ages and I just re-upped it to Tumblr, so HERE are the QR codes for an Animal Crossing recreation of the Sixth Doctor's coat that I made AGES BACK. I shared this with my little sister the last time you posted it, and she really appreciated it, so thanks!
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Mar 16, 2014 21:48
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jivjov posted:So I started listening to Spare Parts today, and I think I caught a neat little touch. Nysaa's cover story is that she's from "up" in the South District and she's just visiting "down" in the North. Given that Mondas is upside-down Earth, that's pretty clever. Point to the writers! I love audio Nyssa, even if she does something really boneheaded...worth it, though, solely for the incredulous reaction from Five. "You brought a Cybermat into MY TARDIS?!?"
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Mar 16, 2014 21:55
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MattD1zzl3 posted:I said this at the time, and i'll say it again: Other than the last two episodes of doctor who and something awful dot com, i hadnt seen the name "Peter capaldi" in any internet, print, or video media form. Dumb rule is dumb and spoiled me on a big reveal that i had with the last two doctor regenerations. It's been all over digital and print media (including broadcast television!), how the hell was SA the only place you ran into it? You really do have the worst opinions.  Fil5000 posted:The early Big Finish plays suffer a lot from near enough all alien voices being just "pitch shifted and recorded from inside a bin". Yeah, there were a couple in a row that were a bit better about it, and I was sort of hoping they'd outgrown it, but it looks like I'm still a few audios away from that yet.
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Mar 16, 2014 22:04
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Bicyclops posted:It's been all over digital and print media (including broadcast television!), how the hell was SA the only place you ran into it? You really do have the worst opinions. I guess they, like the theatre, must be dead mediums as well. 
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Mar 16, 2014 22:17
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MattD1zzl3 posted:I said this at the time, and i'll say it again: Other than the last two episodes of doctor who and something awful dot com, i hadnt seen the name "Peter capaldi" in any internet, print, or video media form. Dumb rule is dumb and spoiled me on a big reveal that i had with the last two doctor regenerations. If the SA forums are the cause of your TV spoiler problems, perhaps by avoiding reading and posting in said forums, you might find a cure for this particular ailment? 
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DoctorWhat posted:Say I don't think I've posted this in ages and I just re-upped it to Tumblr, so HERE are the QR codes for an Animal Crossing recreation of the Sixth Doctor's coat that I made AGES BACK. Just fired Animal Crossing back up again, so thank you for this!
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Mar 16, 2014 23:35
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jivjov posted:Just fired Animal Crossing back up again, so thank you for this! I've got Five, too! I'll post it when it's uploaded.
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CobiWann posted:
What a relief this story was, such a breath of fresh air after the utter disappointment of Omega. I did feel the ending was a little rushed and that they discarded some of the (very few!) supporting characters a bit too abruptly, and I wasn't all that impressed with the resolution of the final argument between the Doctor and Lorraine... but really almost all of that stuff is just noise anyway, the strength of this story is secondarily in the interplay between the Doctor and Davros, and primarily about the character of Davros himself and Molloy's excellent performance. Everything else is tertiary at best, I could have quite happily listened to an audio that was nothing but Davros telling his own life story (perhaps I should pick up I, Davros then!), Molloy's performance is exceptional, freed from the budgetary restraints on the visuals from the tv series, he gets to inhabit the character completely and leave the listener's mind to fill in the rest. Whether he's quiet or ranting, or quietly ranting, or building himself up to a rant, or angrily biting his tongue to keep up the pretense while having to deal with the Doctor's poo poo, there's never a point where I wasn't completely enraptured and paying complete attention. Given the amazing job that Julian Bleach did in Journey's End you could be forgiven for thinking that maybe all you need for a quality Davros is a mask, voice modulation and a lot of angry shouting interspersed with horrifyingly quiet moments. But the flashback scenes in this story prove to me at least that Molloy is capable of producing a stellar performance without all the bells and whistles. No mask, no voice modulation, his young, uncrippled and "whole" Davros is still utterly chilling, he doesn't need a Dalek wheelchair and an electricity producing finger to reduce people to quivering messes. His cold manipulation of events and his rejection of his own obvious emotional feelings made him a monster long before the explosion that gave him the visual appearance of one, and provide a context for his conception of "perfection" in the Daleks. In that respect, he really was their creator, even if the initial idea turns out to have come from Shan - she envisioned adaptation and evolution, of racial purity yes but not of the rejection of what it mean to be human (or Kaled, in this case). It was Davros who saw emotions as weakness outside of the purifying focus of hate, Davros who carved that genetic imperative into the Daleks and thus gave them the same single-minded stubborn will to survive even beyond the point where survival was wanted. The Cybermen lost themselves in their quest to survive, but the Daleks have never lost sight of the core of what makes them Them, and the difference is in that one single emotion (which itself is based on an underlying, unacceptable and thus denied fear). Davros gave that to them when he "fathered" them, and it is the same thing that has kept him alive beyond any concievable notion of how long he SHOULD have lived. The doctors at the start of the story say that the chair will keep him alive for the natural lifespan of a Kaled, but he has long since passed that point, I daresay he's now chronologically far older than the Doctor, and may in fact be the oldest humanoid being in the universe. Speaking of time, the story does neat stuff with the use of flashbacks, though I don't think they really fully committed to the idea and thus a lot of moments lost their impact. From the start we're going backwards through the key moments of Davros' later life, but then we reach a point where we start going forward again. This was probably easier for the writer/performers from a narrative sense, but I feel like it costs the killer reveals of Shan and her "relationship" with Davros. Given Lorraine's confusion and assumptions of who and what Shan was to Davros, I think the story would have been far stronger if we'd heard Davros condemn her and have her killed, THEN had him accuse her of her affair, THEN shown their arguments over credit and THEN revealed that it was Shan who first brought the concept of the Daleks to Davros to end that part of the story[spoiler]. I think doing this would have allowed the listener to make the same incorrect assumptions that Lorraine did, to think that [spoiler]Shan was Davros' lover, and that he killed her for her affair as opposed to killing her to remove a competitor to his own "survival" just like the Thals and Kaleds were doing to each other. That would have enabled us to feel Davros was being humanized, that we were getting to see the man beneath the monster, to possibly convince ourselves that maybe he COULD be redeemed... which would make the moment where he reveals the details of his "solution" to Galactic Famine all the stronger, as we'd realize this man really is a monster, and that for all his talk of introspection and self-reflection he was still the guy who saw morality as a millstone around the neck of progress. Then there is Colin Baker, of course. His Doctor actually plays a mostly comedic role in this story which fits to an extent, as there is some needed levity to counter-act Davros' scheming and his flashbacks of the horrors of the war on Skaro. It does mean that he comes across as a bit of a buffoon at times, which is probably his intention (what better way to have people let their guard down?) but does cause a bit of an issue given the severity of the situation. He knows how dangerous Davros is, he knows that TAI is hardly a paragon of moral virtue, and yet he treats the whole situation like it is all a bit of fun. Yes he deliberately fucks up Davros' first project smoothly enough, but you'd think that he would spend more time in a state of horror over Davros being alive again and having access to a practically unlimited budget. That said, the notion of the Doctor (especially the 6th Doctor!) and Davros sharing a workshop and doing experiments together is just too great a concept not to embrace whole-heartedly, and for the brief period that they DO work together and show a grudging admiration of each other it is pretty much everything you could ask for. I love that they solve the greatest scientific roadblock to continued human development in the space of a single day, and that Baynes is left near speechless for once at just how intelligent they actually are. The key difference being that the Doctor finds himself engaged in spite of his own reservations, while Davros perceives the presence of an equal in a far more negative light. This story does such a great job of subverting expectations, and this is no exception. Earlier in the story, Davros talked about the Doctor being the only person in the universe he can talk to as an equal. For the listener (well okay, for me!) there is a suggestion of yearning there, a desire for stimulating conversation with somebody on a par with his own intellect. But as we learned with Shan, Davros does not tolerate threats to his own superiority anymore than his Daleks would one to their own. Davros doesn't want to keep the Doctor around as a peer, but to destroy him as a potential competitor for the same "niche", just like with Shan, just like the Kaleds and the Thals did. The story is ultimately one of stall evolution mistaken for the peak of evolution - despite his great age and enormous mental prowess, Davros still has the same mentality as he did as a scientist on Skaro, when Skaro was the extent of his world and he believed the universe was empty of all life outside of his own wartorn planet. For somebody whose vision is so large, his vision is so limited - Davros COULD be so much more, but he doesn't so much reject redemption as he appears to be incapable of it, his worldview and mindset has expanded only in the sense of understanding the wider universe around him, but his inner being is exactly the same as it ever was - he might as well still be on Skaro. Meanwhile the Doctor as always contrasts positively, because he has made every effort to grow as a person, to embrace new philosophies and to accept the limitations of his own people and himself. Sure, Colin Baker portrays the Doctor as gloriously smug, but it isn't at the cost of the "little people". He is willing to put his own life at risk to save not just Willis but Baynes too, despite Baynes' obvious immoral mindset, and his first thought is to try to rescue the victims of the dome attack. He agonizes over Kimberly's fate and is outraged by Lorraine's attempt to manage the fallout of everything that has transpired. Baker does a great job in those parts, and while his comedy bits in parts don't seem quite appropriate, they ARE for the most part funny. Sadly most of the supporting characters are lacking in depth, which isn't too surprising given how much time and emphasis is (rightly) given to Davros and the Doctor. Baynes is interesting in that he is utterly immoral in some cases (happily killing people) and oddly conservative in others (he seems shocked at the suggestion of eavesdropping on his staff) and yet above all pragmatic (it turns out eavesdropping tools ARE in place, he just hasn't used them yet). In some cases I would say this was shoddy writing, but Baynes is a super-rich 1%er used to operating in often conflicting legal conditions and within definite moral gray areas. People are rarely outright good or evil (the basis of Lorraine's argument for Davros, which turns out to be wrong of course!) and while it is tempting to try and lump into megalomaniac mode based on his first appearance in the story, we're often shown cases where we see that Baynes' actions tend to be very much in the moment and always financially based. He'll do the morally right thing if it makes financial sense to do so, and he'll do the utterly repulsive thing if it means he makes money, but he rarely seems to feel strongly one way or the other personally about his actions. There are a number of red herrings thrown at the listener based on their expectation of his monstrosity - we assume he is closing down the mines only to learn that this "secret" was a focus group suggestion that he ignored for being financially ludicrous. We assume he is building robots for nefarious purposes and plans to co-opt the Doctor and Davros' experiments into them for these purposes... but it turns out that he was equipping them for precisely the reason he'd already told the Doctor, and the only reason one ran amok is because the Doctor himself screwed up. Willis meanwhile is just blandly "good", an ineffectual wannabe crusader whose only purpose appears to be to bring the Doctor into the story and could have easily just been removed at that point. Kimberly similarly serves very little purpose other than to talk to the Doctor at points, and to demonstrate in the climax that Davros' bravery in clinging to life was actually cowardice, which again goes well towards the notion that Davros' (and the Daleks') hatred is built on fear, a fear that their own mind rejects as unacceptable and thus non-existent, which causes a self-loathing that can never be exorcised. Lorraine serves well enough in terms of explaining the "rescue" of Davros and demonstrating the dangers of revisionist history (Hitler made the trains run on time, let's follow his policies!), but while it is nice to have Wendy Padbury back on the show in any form her story does kind of peter out into nothing. The ending where she suddenly starts working on PR spin to prevent the collapse of her company, and the Doctor's all too neat (and unchallenged) uncovering of evidence just kind of feels tacked on, like they got to the end and realized they couldn't just leave this loose end lying around. It's not a very satisfying ending, nor is the Doctor glumly deciding Davros must have survived but apparently having no interest in exploring this or seeing to it that he is arrested/incarcerated. Sure they couldn't really do much considering we know Davros would show up again in the 6th and 7th Doctor's televised adventures, but it is still disappointing that an otherwise excellent story ends on such a flat note. Davros is a must-listen, but it is a story that is built entirely around Terry Molloy's incredible performance as Davros. There are backstory revelations, the Doctor is in fine form, and there are enjoyable comedic moments as well. But the story is irrelevant, the side-characters mostly one-note, and the ending isn't particularly good. You'll listen to this story for Davros, and you'll probably enjoy it because of Davros. In that respect it is aptly titled, you get exactly what you were promised by this story.
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I'm watching The Trial of a Timelord. My god, I've been wrong this whole time. It's Colin Baker. Colin Baker is the 2nd best Doctor. Tom Baker is still the best Doctor.
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Mar 17, 2014 09:37
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Who locked all the doors? It's okay, you can tell us. We won't be angry. We just want to know what happened.
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Mar 17, 2014 11:26
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armoredgorilla posted:I'm watching The Trial of a Timelord. My god, I've been wrong this whole time. It's Colin Baker. Colin Baker is the 2nd best Doctor. Jesus man, you're not supposed to stare at Colin's Technicolor Time Coat for that long in one sitting  . It's going to be okay, just drink a glass of water and lie down for a few hours in a room free of vibrant colour and you'll be fine.
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Trin Tragula posted:Who locked all the doors? It's okay, you can tell us. We won't be angry. We just want to know what happened.  Neddy Seagoon posted:Jesus man, you're not supposed to stare at Colin's Technicolor Time Coat for that long in one sitting Does this help!?! 
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armoredgorilla posted:I'm watching The Trial of a Timelord. My god, I've been wrong this whole time. It's Colin Baker. Colin Baker is the 2nd best Doctor. ONE OF US ONE OF US WE ACCEPT YOU ONE OF US GOOBLE GOBBLE GOOBLE GOBBLE WE ACCEPT YOU ONE OF US 
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MattD1zzl3 posted:I said this at the time, and i'll say it again: Other than the last two episodes of doctor who and something awful dot com, i hadnt seen the name "Peter capaldi" in any internet, print, or video media form. Dumb rule is dumb and spoiled me on a big reveal that i had with the last two doctor regenerations. Its not like it was announced on TV Capaldi's casting was revealed on 4 August during a live broadcast on BBC One, titled Doctor Who Live: The Next Doctor. The live show was watched by an average of 6.27 million in the UK, and was also simulcast in the United States, Canada and Australia. It was also so well known that he appeared on the 50th.
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DoctorWhat posted:ONE OF US ONE OF US WE ACCEPT YOU ONE OF US 
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armoredgorilla posted:I'm watching The Trial of a Timelord. My god, I've been wrong this whole time. It's Colin Baker. Colin Baker is the 2nd best Doctor. 
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I really wish Nobody No-One was a more prominent villain. If I could get Alex MacQueen's Master and Nobody No-One in the same audio, I think I'd overdose on boisterous, charismatic elocution. God forbid if it is a Tom or Colin Baker audio too. Oh, a guy can dream! edit: Let's throw Jago and Litefoot in there as well just to make sure we hit EVERY word in the english language and EVERY decibel level covered
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Mar 17, 2014 17:21
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McGann posted:Nobody No-One was a more prominent villain. AND SUDDENLY...~ I can dream, huh?
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Mar 17, 2014 18:01
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bobkatt013 posted:Its not like it was announced on TV Clearly it is the fault of the Something Awful TV IV subforum's Doctor Who non-spoiler thread for not spoilering this top secret* information. *"top secret" only if you were literally living under a rock. On Mars.
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Mar 17, 2014 18:28
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The Doctor Who LEGO set has reached 10,000 supporters on Cuusoo, which means it now goes into the review phase.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Clearly it is the fault of the Something Awful TV IV subforum's Doctor Who non-spoiler thread for not spoilering this top secret* information. I am pretty sure the Ice Warriors do know who the new Doctor is! 
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McGann posted:I really wish Nobody No-One was a more prominent villain. If I could get Alex MacQueen's Master and Nobody No-One in the same audio, I think I'd overdose on boisterous, charismatic elocution. God forbid if it is a Tom or Colin Baker audio too. I listened to A Death in the Family recently and I was thinking the same thing. Not only is it such a great concept, Ian Reddington just plays him to the hilt. I guess Nobody's too powerful to be used too frequently, but Nobody should come back.
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Rochallor posted:I listened to A Death in the Family recently and I was thinking the same thing. Not only is it such a great concept, Ian Reddington just plays him to the hilt. Adric?
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Rochallor posted:I listened to A Death in the Family recently and I was thinking the same thing. Not only is it such a great concept, Ian Reddington just plays him to the hilt. STOP! STOP TYPING! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?
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