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| Verity Lambert |
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49 | 7.04% |
| John Wiles |
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1 | 0.14% |
| Innes Lloyd |
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1 | 0.14% |
| Peter Bryant |
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3 | 0.43% |
| Derrick Sherwin |
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3 | 0.43% |
| Barry Letts |
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12 | 1.72% |
| Phillip Hinchcliffe |
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62 | 8.91% |
| Graham Williams |
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3 | 0.43% |
| John Nathan-Turner |
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15 | 2.16% |
| Philip Segal |
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3 | 0.43% |
| Russel T Davies |
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106 | 15.23% |
| Steven Moffat |
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114 | 16.38% |
| Son Goku |
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324 | 46.55% |
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Bicyclops posted:The Power of Kroll was a real stinkbomb, but I enjoyed every one of the serials from season 16. Great, but that was Anthony Read's season, and he had nowhere to go but up from Underworld and Invasion of Time :snore:. EDIT - drat YOU, BRITONS!
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Bicyclops posted:Oh, okay. I guess most of the post City of Death stuff was a bit forgettable. I should have gone with Son Goku anyway. Nothing about Horns of Nimon is forgetttable.
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Feb 19, 2014 16:16
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Potsticker posted:No Nick Briggs in the Poll? Suddenly the audio show doesn't count? That's right.... people. The Doctor Who DiscContinuity Guide posted:Oh, what fun! McGann's first Big Finish season closes on a big (and long!) story with a great script and the Brigadier on top form. Despite an American and a Canadian in the cast some dodgy accents feature, but with an imaginative setting and some stand-out scenes (Marchosias using Becky-Lee's powers to kill Pargeter, Crane 'testing' the Doctor's memories, the Brigadier's 'collapse'), 'Minuet' is hellishly good. If the 'join' sometimes shows between the story's two authors, it doesn't really matter. It's a shame the (real) Doctor isn't in it more, but it would be a treat to hear Gideon again. Although it was him saying that Jubilee was a "letdown" that made me stop reading his reviews.
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Feb 20, 2014 03:54
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JacquelineDempsey posted:And thanks to your post, I now know who Oates was, and that the Doctor references his famous last words in not one but two episodes --- one of which being Earthshock, which I was GIS-ing yesterday for my low-effort job on your friend's b-day card This is one of those things that could serve as a Blade Runner-style test to see which of us are Yanks. That famous walk seems to be a sufficient part of British culture that it's thrown out in Red Dwarf as readily as any pop-culture reference. I think we can blame the US educational system, we just don't like to talk about losers, no matter how well intentioned or self-sacrificing.
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Feb 20, 2014 16:45
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CobiWann posted:Counterpoint - the Confederacy. LividLiquid posted:Which walk is this, and when did it appear in Red Dwarf? Red Dwarf: White Hole posted:Kryten: You'd sacrifice your life for the good of the crew? LividLiquid posted:Edit: also, Yanks? Really?
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Feb 20, 2014 17:48
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Gaz-L posted:Hey, who got all the nuclear launch codes because they were the only nation that could be trusted, hmm? Naturally, the rest were all foreigners :brig:.
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Feb 21, 2014 05:53
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Just about finished with Unregenerate! and.... holy poo poo, I did not see that plot twist coming. It's official, every idea we've liked in NuWho has been done (usually better) in Big Finish first. You can go home now, Moffat & Co. We've got our showrunners right here. JUST FINISHED EDIT - Wow. That got really good. Sorry Neil Gaiman, but I like the Fahrenheit 451 ending better. After The War fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Feb 23, 2014 |
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Feb 23, 2014 17:31
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CobiWann posted:I’m thinking about starting with The Eye of the Scorpion and The Church and the Crown, as they’re fun historical adventure stories and she’s familiar with Five. See if you can track down No Place Like Home. It takes place immediately after Church and the Crown and would be pitch perfect for a younger listener.
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Feb 24, 2014 19:35
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Trin Tragula posted:My bet for cute Hartnell references in the next series is on the Doctor finding a pair of anti-radiation gloves. The only good part in Flip-Flip. bobkatt013 posted:It will be him beating a man to death with a rock.
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Feb 25, 2014 05:05
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CobiWann posted:What did you think of the “I’m the King of France/well, I’m the Lord of Time” exchange? Moffat snarkiness, Doctor arrogance, or a hint of the Time Lord Victorious? You are a Time Lord. A lord of time. Are there lords in such a small domain? [/Enlightenment]
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Feb 25, 2014 15:14
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I don't know why I let all the naysayers in this thread me away from Terror Firma for so long. This poo poo is hilarious.
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Mar 4, 2014 17:45
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Fil5000 posted:Is it hilarious? Or did you just THINK it was hilarious because Davros something something in a library something kidnapped something something oh god it was poo poo. It's so far removed from anything that could be considered "Doctor Who" or "competent storytelling" that I couldn't help but laugh the whole way through. The fact that Malloy, McGann and Fisher were able to play it straight just made the horrible dialogue and misery-porn plot twists even funnier.
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Mar 4, 2014 18:06
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Potsticker posted:Don't let naysayers keep you from any audio. There's only one audio I absolutely hated and there are plenty of people in this thread who loved it. To be sure, if I was operating on a limited amount of time/money and was only looking for things that were legitimately good, I would have avoided it like the plague. Plus, I have a card that says "Always Believe Opposite of What DiscContinuity Guide Guy Thinks." The Doctor Who DiscContinuity Guide posted:Twisted and shocking. Lidster brings the TARDIS crew back to earth with an audible bang and seemingly wraps up Davros (hardly a stranger to BF by this stage) to boot. At turns horrible and hilarious - the tragic tale of Samson and Gemma is genuinely nasty, while the identity of the Resistance is a surprising revelation in itself, this is one of the more entertaining Eighth Doctor adventures in some time. Continuity aside, highly recommended.
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Mar 4, 2014 18:18
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Rochallor posted:Does anybody have strong enough opinions about Medicinal Purposes to convince me to keep going with it? Because I'm about 45 minutes in and the Doctor has already tried to justify murder in the course of scientific advancement to Evelyn and taken advantage of a retarded character (played by David Tennant!) to convince his sister to go along with him. It actually picks up a lot on the second half. Thematically, it covers similar ground to Jubilee, regarding the transition from bloody, painful reality to pop-culture history. Unlike that audio, however, the villain has no redeeming features or motivation, so it dulls the impact somewhat. Nonetheless, it's a theme that Doctor Who is uniquely capable of dealing with, and C-Bake and Maggie Stables really pull out all the stops to make the ending an emotional gut-punch.
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Mar 5, 2014 06:11
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This actually ties heavily into why I break with the rest of the thread and really, really love The Sandman, even aside from being a sucker for Big Long Term Space Stuff. The Six of the Evelyn era carries with him the same weariness and guilt we've seen in all of the revival so far. There may not have been a Last Great Time War, but the big decisions and loss of life from being the "Pragmatic Doctor" (to paraphrase Sirens of Time) in both his on-screen time and his earlier Big Finish stories have had a major effect on him, which we see in the first Evelyn story, Marian Conspiracy. In The Sandman, he could have used the same genocidal measures to stop the Galyari he had in other stories. But he didn't, he's done that before and he's tired of it. Nor can he let the eradication of the Kuskaroo continue. So he finds another way, and takes the hate and fear of an entire species on himself to allow them to survive. In any hands other than Colin Baker's, it would have across as a cop-out, but he makes it perfectly embody Jerusalem posted:the Doctor choosing hope over necessity, over finding another way to save people's lives. Well, it does for me, anyway.
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Mar 5, 2014 16:12
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DoctorWhat posted:Colin Baker as everyone. poo poo, I should have listed that as a franchise I'd like to see them do: Everyone, The Series. A One-Man Show By Colin Baker. EDIT -  BEEBLEBROX! After The War fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Mar 6, 2014 |
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Mar 6, 2014 18:04
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Guys, guys, it's okay. Somebody in the "PYF Terrible Tattoos" thread solved it for us so we don't have to fight any more!Lolitas Alright! posted:What people don't seem to get is that "Doctor Who" is a kids' show. Always was, since the beginning. It was supposed to be something the whole family could watch and enjoy, but was aimed towards older kids. It's not meant to be this big beautiful tale of philosophy and love and blah blah blah bullshit. It's loving "My Little Pony" in space with aliens. Well, that sure is a relief!
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Mar 7, 2014 07:15
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One Swell Foop posted:FWIW I recommend downloading the audios as audiobooks, for iPods and iPhones at least. iTunes and iDevices will actually remember your last position for audiobooks, so you can switch over to listen to some music, then switch back to the audiobook and it will pick up where you left off. You can tell iTunes to treat any audio file as an audiobook if you right-click on it, pull up "Get Info", go to the "Options" tab and change "Media Kind" to "Audiobook". This was immensely helpful in converting the DriveThruFiction H.P. Lovecraft collection (read by Jeffrey Combs!) into something I could actually use, since the purchasable copy has no metadata whatsoever.
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Mar 9, 2014 15:51
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CobiWann posted:That first moment in the story where you hear the full blown maniacal laughter of Davros is such a treat. Really, it's one of BF's best stories and one of Colin's finest hours. Terry's no slouch either, of course! One of the reasons I found Terror Firma so funny is that Joseph Lidster desperately wants to be this affecting, but is incapable of comprehending that good writing comes out of emotional resonance, not simply torturing the characters. He thinks he's following up on Davros, but gives us out-of-character LiveJournal WhineSpeak. Malloy and McGann should have gotten goddamn medals for playing that script straight.
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Mar 11, 2014 17:25
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Attitude Indicator posted:While a 8 and 12 multiple doctor story would be good, I think it's a bit too soon for that. We just had one of those with Day of the Doctor, and I think those should be reserved for the anniversaries. Focus on the current Doctor and keep looking forward. To much fan-wank towards the older seasons only hurts the show, I think. It was fine last year because that was after all the 50th. Some nods here and there are cool, but it would be better if they focused on new stuff and not just rehashing old ideas and doctors. Obviously, this is the first shot from the new Doctor Who spin-off series that will take the place of SJA and Torchwood... Doctor Who! Starring Paul McGann as the Doctor and showrun by Peter Capaldi.
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Mar 11, 2014 17:29
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Cleretic posted:This is actually sort of a good point, has anything ever been revived as well as Doctor Who? Battlestar Galactica, maybe? I would have said Star Trek before Into Darkness mucked that one up. Next Generation and Deep Space Nine are still the gold standards of television revival, and probably the closest to Doctor Who in terms of new fan comfort vs. classic references. We can argue at what point the franchise went to poo poo, but we can all agree it was years and years after they got it back off the ground.
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Mar 12, 2014 15:41
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Cerv posted:nice genesis of the daleks reference there "All I have to do is touch these two wires together... and this pub will be finished. Have I that right?!"
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Apr 16, 2014 12:41
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thexerox123 posted:I recommend Live 34... it's definitely one of my favourite 7th Doctor stories... (although maybe not the best choice for your first 7th audio, as it doesn't give much context for who the main characters are) and another great 8th Doctor one is The Natural History of Fear. That can be easily rectified with a listen to The Harvest, which is a better Seven story than most, introduces Hex, and is only really disappointing in that it didn't go in the direction I wanted it to. Also, I loved the hell out of Unregenerate, which had the opposite effect and takes a surprise turn into "awesome" about halfway through. But overall, Sylvester probably has the worst track record of all the Big Finish Doctors in terms of being given poo poo scripts (THE DARK....FLAME!) so expect recommendations to be limited.
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Apr 22, 2014 00:55
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Astroman posted:7/Ace/Hex are indeed a power combo. They come in as BF really starts to hit it's stride with depth of storytelling and directing as well. I highly recommend listening to that run all in order. Does that mean I'll eventually get a pay-off for enduring the stupid-as-poo poo Dreamtime?
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Apr 22, 2014 12:34
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Cerv posted:is it really? i've noticed this 'convention' before. Chill out, dude, it's on the DVD boxes. And no one could ever get mad about...  Oh. Dammit.
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Apr 23, 2014 13:01
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Fungah! posted:OH LORD A DOUBLE POST FLIP-FLOP * Increasingly obvious time travel thing happens * The Doctor explains it * Mel whines that she's confused REPEAT REPEAT REPEAT THEN REPEAT THE WHOLE THING AGAIN WITH THE HUMANS' ROLES CHANGED Maybe I shouldn't have gone through the whole thing in one day, but it just wasn't a fun audio to listen to. Both for the aforementioned racist undertones (hell, "tones" really) and for the sheer annoyance of the dialogue and narrative. Especially after coming off the fantastic (and similarly themed) Creatures of Beauty.
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Apr 24, 2014 12:37
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Jerusalem posted:Oh come on, now YOU'RE the one being silly. Finding out that Nicola Bryant was suffering from a neck injury and had to wear a brace whenever the cameras weren't rolling makes that GIF painful in a whole different way.
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Apr 24, 2014 12:41
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Cruel Rose posted:Sympathy for the Devil is the best Unbound. David Warner Doctor VS Mark Gatiss Master And let's not forget an up-and-coming young Scottish actor as the new head of UNIT...
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Apr 26, 2014 00:40
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RunAndGun posted:Anyways, it isn't like I dislike it, but I just never got into it. I just want the "core" experience. For now, TV is fine. Same that I didn't get into the books/comics/other media. (Matter of fact, I rarely go beyond the core/main/original of whatever fiction. For instance, Star Wars: The only EU I ever went for (besides games, because games) was the Timothy Zahn books, and only because I had heard they were as close to the continuation of the movies as we were going to get.) Doctor Who is an odd case, compared to other franchises, where the line between licensed work and official-(ly branded) product is a lot more blurred. George Lucas was involved, to some degree, with every Star Wars film. Gene Rodenberry was involved (very much to its detriment) with the first season of TNG. Even aside from the big names, there's always a very conscious torch-passing process. People who work on franchises hire people they like, generally from within the industry, who eventually take over as principal figures, etc. Doctor Who, if was ever like that, ceased to be after 1989. Instead mercenaries of the Alan Dean Foster or R.A. Salvatore vein, you often had offscreen works by writers who had worked on the show and just wanted to keep writing Doctor Who. On the other side, you had young unproven fan writers who had a chance to work in a universe they loved. And unlike Star Trek or any other revived franchise - it was this group that brought the show back. In a very real way the current series is just as much a spin-off (or licensed fan-fic) as Big Finish. During the "wilderness years", the new blood mixed with the old and many varieties of Doctor Who were born. One of the reasons we gravitate towards Big Finish is that they combine so much of everything Doctor Who. Actors who have played (and love playing) the Doctor. Writers who have worked on the original series, the new series, or sci-fi in general. Plots that don't need to be resolved in 45 minutes, or padded out to 200. Internal continuity or not. And it's all done by professionals who love the hell out of it*. It's a whole different animal than the "churn out the product" factory most people think of when they hear about an EU. One more thing is that a lot of audios are as far removed from the idea of Doctor Who as a "children's show" as you can get. Not "adult" themes in the sex 'n' violence grimdark sense (Nekromentria notwithstanding), but... grown-up. To get the endings of Preperations For War and Blood and Water, you have to have lived and lost, yourself. That's not something I see enough in genre fiction, and it's the reason that, after 25 years of fandom, Big Finish is the Doctor Who I look forward to most.
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Apr 26, 2014 14:27
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RunAndGun posted:
Oh, I didn't want it to come across as demanding Big Finish participation as a prerequisite for enjoying Doctor Who. I just wanted to provide a context for why we focus on it so much here, since I'm sure it looks to a newcomer like "you can't appreciate Star Wars until you really understand The Droids and Ewoks Adventure Hour, man."
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Apr 27, 2014 16:47
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Bicyclops posted:Well, you guys weren't kidding about the Unbound line being good. Goeffrey Bayldon conjures up a very good grandpa Hartnell alternate (I mean, of course he would, given that he was up for the role) in Auld Mortality and Sympathy for the Devil is definitely by far the best Brig outing I've heard so far. I just did Full Fathom Five over the weekend and all I can say is "I was once like you"  .What a waste of a good Doctor. Literally  .
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Apr 29, 2014 04:29
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jng2058 posted:So I just finished listening to Storm Warning. I guess it was alright. Not great, mind you, but alright. Outside of the '96 movie and Night of the Doctor I really haven't dealt with the Eighth Doctor much. Or at all. So listening to him work was a new experience. The voice work, especially McGann's, was acceptable. Some of the writing and delivery worked, and I laughed out loud a couple of times. So that's good. It's not you, the first batch of McGanns are some of the last examples of Early Big Finish Syndrome, which is.... all the things you described, really. One of the reasons I stayed with it long enough to get hooked is how much they get their poo poo together by his second season, released the next year. Eventually, they'll get it so smooth you won't even notice they're throwing expository dialogue at you.
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Apr 29, 2014 12:25
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Fungah! posted:Whaaaa, Full Fathom Five was one of my favorites. Parts of it are a little overdramatic, but overall I thought it was a taut, interesting look at the kind of monster the Doctor could become. It's kind of a huge tonal shift from the first two, but that was the whole purpose of the line, you know? I liked the concept of this Doctor, but it really seemed like they had the ending in mind and worked backwards. Once you get the big reveal, he totally changes gears and becomes painfully short-sighted, shooting first and never thinking things through. If he'd been written more like Seven, manipulating people and events, only using murder to tie up the loose ends, the ending would have felt much more earned. Speaking of the ending, it really bugged me that Ruth focuses all her rage on the Doctor, and lets the man responsible for her father's downfall and death off scot-free. Yes, the Doctor pulled the actual trigger, but it was only after the General forcibly injected him with mutagens, not to mention using him to set the whole thing in motion. But at the end, they're chatting like chums after he brutally kills the man that raised her and she prepares to do the same over and over again. Oh, and the near-Minuet in Hell American accents. One of which was bad in such a distinct way that it spoils the twist ending. So, not agony - but poorly written and produced enough to be irritating. EDIT - Oh that actor really was American. Maybe he was overdoing the accent to sell better to a British audience... either way he as terribly written. After The War fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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Apr 30, 2014 05:33
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Davros1 posted:Nah, I noticed this effect: an American accent is extremely jarring on a audio when the rest of the cast is British. And this particular one was a whole cloth, out of the box stereotype character, which made the effect even worse.
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May 1, 2014 12:14
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jng2058 posted:The writing was generally decent. Certainly the Six/Evelyn relationship was well handled, and even better was Six's slightly wistful interactions with Queen Mary. There's a sadness to Colin Baker's performance that you didn't see much or at all during his two years on TV. I can hear why people have raved about Colin's performances for Big Finish. He really is very good, and it was no trouble picturing the Doctor's actions in this story. Remember,this was only his second Big Finish audio (Sirens of Time doesn't count). Colin was just warming up, wait 'til he really gets a handle on the character...
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May 2, 2014 05:17
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CobiWann posted:but it’s an interesting concept that I don’t know is explored directly in Doctor Who – how DOES the Doctor see his companions? Friends? Family? Pets? After 900+ years, is the Doctor even capable of “love” as we know it? As with so many things in life, the answer lies in the Six/Evelyn audios. But I won't say which ones, because I don't want anyone to post that River Song spoiler thing again.
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May 7, 2014 12:38
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Jerusalem posted:This leads on to my next issue with the story, in that I once again don't see what about this story plays with the concept of the Divergent Universe. This is a place that is supposed to be utterly alien to life as the Doctor knows it in the "real" universe but apart from Scherzo he hasn't once yet encountered a situation that stands out as something that wouldn't have happened in the universe he came from. Thematically, at least, it's very representative of what the Divergent Universe will ultimately mean: the forced recursion, that the different Zones are all self contained time loops, as is the Divergent Universe itself. Time, as the Doctor knows it by the fixed points of cause and effect, doesn't exist - it folds back on itself like a Möbius strip surrounding (or made from) a finite number of smaller Möbius strips. Not as cool as the incomprehensibility of Scherzo, but more manageable story-wise. (Spoiled because I really liked the last Divergent season, flaws and all.)
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May 15, 2014 02:36
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Jerusalem posted:I've never read those books either, but the story for me commits the cardinal sin of presuming to not only establish a defined origin for the Doctor, but making it one that is utterly lovely, uncharacteristic and nihilistic - going completely against everything Doctor Who is in favor of a "mature" grim'n'gritty twist that also immediately colors every single other action in the Doctor's life. Not that I want to defend anything Lidsterian, but said origin story is centered around the first time the Doctor kills somebody with a rock, which is hilarious. Master's a comedy, right?
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May 17, 2014 06:06
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Bicyclops posted:I basically just arranged the stuff on the wiki, including all spin-offs, by the month of release. Hey, me too! Great minds and all that. Here, I'll share mine with the class. I started it a few months back, partly to get my Excel chops back up to speed before I started my new job, so some stuff will still be listed as TBA. Anyway, here ya go! EDIT - Just uploaded it as a Google Spreadsheet to make it easier to read on yon Internets. Let me know if anyone wants me to do a spoiler-free version where I limit the "featured" tag to just companions! DOUBLE EDIT - Argh, the date field got messed up in that last one. I'll figure a way to fix it, just don't try to re-sort them just yet. After The War fucked around with this message at 04:14 on May 23, 2014 |
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CobiWann posted:Someday there will be a strong male companion... 
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