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Sep 28, 2008

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Bremma posted:

Man, I kinda wish I had held out for the full episode in a few days, but dang it, I had a poo poo week, so I'm watchin' me some queens, dangit.


I actually like the split premier thing. I know I always had an issue of remembering who's who when it's all 12-14 at ones, so I think this will help get names cemented.

I REALLY like April so far. Her opening look stunned me, and she really pulled off the challenge look more than I thought she would.

Also sad it's down to Vivacious and Kelly. I like them both, but I'm rooting for Vi.



Agree with this, April was really impressive, funny, and poised, especially for a 23 year old.

and yeah, I'm rooting for Vi, too. Kelly did not impress me as much as she did in her intro video, and her looks were pretty blah. Although was that a Hedwig wig I clocked?

Also I just rewatched Paris is Burning this week since we were talking about it in the old thread, and Goddamn do I love me a ballroom queen :allears:. And that swerve to her runway walk. It's great to see a representative from the oldschool New York scene reppin' it. I thought Vi's look was fine, at least on par with Laganja's, who I agree is also trying a little too hard personality-wise.


I'm liking Gia Gunn a lot more than I thought I would, although she's still a bit annoying, especially since they seem to love her in the talking head interviews. Ben is talented, funny, intelligent, and sweet, to boot. Looking forward to her. Adore is a bit of a brat, but she's funny, so it evens out. Ben, Vi, and April are definitely my favorites of this bunch.

I can't wait to see next week's, I'm really excited about Milk, Darienne, and Courtney. I wonder if it'll be the same challenge, a similar one with different shows, or something completely different.

I had a thought about the elimination, I didn't catch the end of the critique because my wireless cut out so they might have addressed how it'll work, but what if they do a little tournament-style elimination, where the two losers of this week's and next week's have another lip sync to determine who's the first to go? I dunno if I like the idea that two queens will be eliminated before they even meet the full cast, for some reason. Plus, more LSFYL's are never a bad thing.

I do love the format of the split premier, though, seeing more of each queen is really nice.

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Bina posted:

Who will be the first to snatch their wig off during LSFYL?

Ugh, I hope no one. That move was tired before this show aired. I hope Roxxxy's awesome take on it last season is the last we'll see of that move.

That said I can see Gia or Joslyn doing it.

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Bina posted:

I am going to lose my poo poo if VI starts voguing.

I have a feeling she is going to turn. it. out. and I cannot wait.

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Sep 28, 2008

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Wait, the what lounge? What happened to the Interior Illusions Lounge?

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I just realized who Kelly Mantle's look has been reminding me of. She looks like one of Sweet Dee's characters from Always Sunny.

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GRINK HELCH posted:

I thought Gia was going to be lifeless, but then untucked happened. Love her. Serious reader.

Yeah, she's actually pretty funny. She's definitely craftier than I first clocked her, too, like Ben was saying. She's not as cannon-foddery as I thought she would be from her intro video.

e: wait, there's a preview of the next episode after this?! YES. :swoon:

BIANCA IS ALREADY READING THESE QUEENS FOR FILTH.

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Propaganda Machine posted:

What's the deal? The guide is confusing me. I saw about 42 minutes from the premiere preview, but RPDR is slotted for 90 minutes, followed by ten minutes of ???, followed by a normal length RPDR, and then Untucked. What?

Yeah, it was like that on mine too, for some reason. The 90 minute thing is the new episode and Untucked, lumped together for some reason, and the random 10 minutes is the intro of the next episode, featuring the other seven queens arriving and interacting (amazingly).

I have very high hopes for Bianca and Darienne. And still crushin on Milk. :kimchi: So dreamy.

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Sep 28, 2008

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Let's hope this means no more Jeffrey Moran. That guy sucked.

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You know if Alaska had gotten that box for a challenge, she would have dumped the poo poo all over her wig or held the bag and snarfed on handfuls of it the whole way down the runway.

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PostsYouCanDanceTo posted:

This video is spoilerific (I'm assuming it comes from a challenge) but it does contain clips of Milk's audition tape and a bunch of her looks, including the outfit that goes with that hair and makeup. And it is fabulous! All of her looks are great, really.

Oh man, these are great. So excited for Milk's stuff.

I know we've had a lot of ViVacious love in this thread already, but I cannot get enough of hers. Video is once again spoilerific. She's gonna be a treat in the lip syncs, I can already tell.

I also think I'm in love with Courtney. She seems so sweet, and she's loving stunning in and out of drag.

I'm hoping these things' existence means there's gonna be another recording/possibly music video making challenge?

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Eight Dollars posted:

That was the most one-sided lip-sync we've had in a long long time. Yeeeeesh.

For real. I love Darienne, and she destroyed Magnolia. Magnolia seemed like a really insecure and not as clever version of Sharon. Her look was nothing and she had a bad attitude. Sure, any press is good press. :rolleyes:

Trinity really surprised me. I wasn't too into her from any of the pre-release stuff, but she's really funny, clever, and her look was fantastic. Thought she was gonna win, I liked the "pizza box" though. :colbert:

I'm glad the judges liked Milk's look, because it was killer. Seems like she'll be fun to watch.

The twerking scene from Untucked was awesome, as was Courtney's conversation about being "a glamorous stepping stone across the pond to homosexuality" for guys that identify as straight but still wanna sleep with her. I like her a lot.

caligulamprey posted:

I won't be able to jump into the full episode until tomorrow, but I have watched the 10 minute preview and must say: the IHOP joke was unjustly shat upon.

What was the setup? I missed the intro to it and just kept catching the punchline and the awkward laughs. Joslyn is still a big ol' blah. Seems sweet, but she's gonna have to turn something up if she wants to get somewhere.

And of course, Bianca was fantastic. She's loving hysterical.

Can't wait for them all to meet next week!

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I thought it made sense with the wispy, tall, ghosty look of the whole thing, and it tied in well with her aesthetic. I liked it and thought it made sense outside of "lol its a beard", although I am highly biased because she's great. v:shobon:v I agree that she probably didn't explain it that well, though.

I'm also surprised Bianca won over Trinity, especially since they clocked Bianca's makeup and I thought as a whole, Trinity's was way more interesting.

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I think part of what's so refreshing about this premier is that it doesn't have anything like the prefab Coco/Alyssa drama. I know the claws will start to come out in a few weeks, but it's nice to not start the season out with this huge plot bomb that we have already been told multiple times is going to go off. Having the whole Rolaskatox thing heaped on in like episode 2 kinda soured the season early for me, especially since I was really excited about Detox and Alaska, and only Alaska really lived up to that expectation.

And yeah, the Heathers thing was stupid. Yo, you just want a cool name for all your friends so you can ostracize the other queens. Don't try to make it something else. :colbert:

I still love season 3 though. There were some great queens that year. I want Stacey Layne Matthews on All Stars 2 like whoa. God, though, I hope it's not set teams again. That sucked.

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Pinwiz11 posted:

It was a brilliant decision to have the girls bring out their Best Drag for their second runway. Have they done this before?

I don't think so. Here's hoping it sets the runway bar high, since everyone looked fantastic last night and I wanna see more! Gia's look was surprising, namely since there was nothing sexy or very "her" about it from what I could tell. She looked like if Nicolas Winding Refn directed a Willy Wonka remake. I don't really get her personality, and she seems to be doing "funny/campy" looks without getting what makes them funny. I liked her intro look with the huge purse because it was so over the top Kardashian. And not knowing what a DeLorean is? Is she being purposefully stupid to get the other girls to write her off? Also, her makeup was unintentionally creepy as poo poo in the video. At one point she just had straight up black eyes. :gonk:

This season, though. :allears: Darrienne destroyed that challenge, and I was eating her on the runway. God she's great.

Also yeah Adore shoulda been in the bottom.

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Elucidarius posted:

The titles of all the episodes are up on the TV guide-ish websites.


As much as I would LOVE Milk to be in the top 3 I just don't see it happening. Honestly it's hard for me to pick but I'd say it is between Ben, Adore(they seem to love her), Courtney, Bianca and maybe Darienne.

I dunno, I think all it'll take is one uber-glamour look from Milk for the judges to shut the gently caress up about her only being a club kid or whatever their current complaint is. They pick one queen every season to have this type of problem with, and it's usually the ones they have few other complaints about. The last two seasons it was Sharon and Jinkx, so... v:shobon:v

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Aww, poor April. One day, Puerto Rico. But miss Trinity TURNT it out, although that was another case of a song hand picked to favor one queen over the other.

I was surprised Joslyn was safe, she was pretty rough and nothing like her character. Wasn't she supposed to be the butch one?


:woop:SNATCH GAME NEXT WEEK!!!!:woop:

Looks like Bianca will be Judge Judy (great call on her part), and Adore as Anna Nicole. Milk is doing Julia Child and Ben is Maggie Smith. Trinity had pink hair so probably Nicki Minaj, Gia is (surprise) Kim Kardashian, and I have no idea what Joslyn's is. It actually looks a bit like Tatianna. Laganja has a hat and shades, might be another Gaga. And did I clock Darienne as Paula Deen?!?!?! :swoon: I didn't see any hysterically mischosen characters present, although it looks like Courtney is doing Fran Drescher, and her accent work in the horror challenge was...not ideal. :ohdear:

e: looks like Joslyn is Teresa Giudice from RHONJ.

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drat, that was a great Snatch Game. Everyone but Gia, Trinity, Laganja, and Milk were firing on all cylinders. Ben was amazing.

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Oh man, I can already tell that this is gonna be an annoying Untucked. Lots of great debates about what is/isn't drag.

e: turns out it was a little of that, but much more of Laganja being insecure. :downsbravo:

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Nihonniboku posted:

See, this is what I really disagree about Vivacious. She is messy. Really messy. She claims she's a club kid, and represents old school drag. RuPaul was a club kid 25 years ago. And then RuPaul got sober. Vivacious, to me, seems like she was simply around the club kids. The club kids moved on, and Vivacious is still here nearly 30 years later claiming to be one. We saw it with her poor attempt at schooling the girls in vogueing in Untucked. Her runway looks were atrocious, and were a classic case of just a man in a dress. She never stood a chance on the show. She knew it, and RuPaul knew it, and frankly I'm surprised that so many people have become such fans of such a messy queen simply because she has some years in the bag. I get that she certainly has a respect for a certain era of drag. I just don't think she does it well. RuPaul and Michelle Visage were there. They get the aesthetic that Vivacious was going for. It still didn't help her.

I think a lot of people, myself included, loved her personality a lot, so that combined with the "club drag is more about weird costumes than polish and glamor" sentiment made up for her less than perfect looks. I agree that she never really stood a chance. I was hoping she would show a bit more polish but yeah, she was pretty underwhelming by the end.

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Bewildrbeast posted:

however, Milk is a rather cute boy so my feelings are torn about how far I want them to go :(

LaGanga needs to get the gently caress off this train tonight

But it's her time to spread her wings, how dare you?? :qq:

I'm also in the same boat about milk. Cute but nothing to her looks.

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The LIIIIII-brary is OPEN. :woop:

Ohmygod Darienne :allears:

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Oh man, living for Dela and Courtney's looks in Untucked while Laganja is saying all this dumb poo poo again.

"If I can't win, I want it to be Adore."
:jerkbag:

e: TWO episodes next week?!?! And one of them looks to be a cooking show challenge!?!?! :swoon:

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Speed Crazy posted:

Bonus scenes of the mini-challenge are up on Logo's website, and Joslyn had some really great lines they left out of the final episode cut. I wish that she and Adore would step up their runway game because they've both really got tons of charisma.

While I'm starting to understand where Darienne is coming from with the "Ben is full of herself" thing, she's starting to fall apart with her insecurities and it's not cute.

Those deleted scenes are fantastic. Darienne's line about Trinity is fantastic. I liked "I wish someone would show you a door," too, and Joslyn saying what we're all thinking about Laganja.

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Why did Laganja have different reading glasses from everyone else? Somehow they made the rhyming jokes even worse.

I also have no idea why Darienne chose Laganja first, or why it was such a huge deal to Dela. He has to know that he wouldn't be first pick in a 90s rap challenge, he's shown nothing whatsoever that would relate to that in the competition. Love miss Ben but I agree with Michelle for once that he's been a little one-note and skews older than he is. That said, unless he truly fucks up, I'll be surprised to see him leave before the finale.

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Stroop There It Is posted:

Totally not on topic with the current discussion, but I've noticed that people--myself included--often use both male and female pronouns to refer to the same or different drag queens at different times. It doesn't seem to be limited to particular contexts, such as when referring to them as their drag persona (female) versus the actual person (male, in the majority of cases). I wonder what causes people to use one or the other. Any thoughts on that? Have any of you noticed yourselves doing this?

Sorry, I'm a psycholinguistics grad student, I can't help myself. Have a gif:

I've totally thought about this, and I've noticed that for me it's largely context-based. I usually default to female for the vast majority of the queens, unless I'm talking about someone with a drag persona that's clearly very different than their interview/workroom self. Like Ben, for instance, or if I'm talking about them completely outside of a Drag Race context. I think I even posted something about Milk earlier in the thread and said "He's cute out of drag" or something. It definitely varies a lot, though but if I'm talking exclusively about boy-Jinkx* or whatever, I'll use he, but otherwise I pretty much just say she. I will throw in the occasional he if I'm being shady, for instance, to clock someone horrible like Serena from S5. Except for the trans queens, obviously I use she permanently for them when I find out they're trans.

For Laganja I've been using the Cro-Magnon pronoun, "Ugh."

I think Ru said it best: "You can call me he, you can call me she, you can call me Regis and Kathy Lee. I don't care, just as long as you call me!"

*a great name for a gay bar

I love you for making this comparison.

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:smith: Trinity :smith:
It should have been Joslyn in the bottom with Adore, I think. I can't believe Joslyn was safe after asking Cher's mom about almost getting an abortion. :wtc:, girl? She did seem genuinely apologetic, and I guess it's not something worth her eliminated over since she did apologize. I just think that slip up was worse than Adore being nervous, though. I just wanted to see more of Trinity, and I feel like Joslyn's not long for this competition anyway. She and Darienne better be the next to go, I'll be happy no matter what if that's the case. I think Ben, Courtney, Bianca, or Adore could honestly take it now.


That lip sync was everything, though. Goddamn. Why is it the Paula Abdul songs that seem to bring out the best in these queens? Coco and Alyssa destroyed each other to "Cold Hearted" last season, too.

Trinity has grown a loving lot over the competition, she's really humble and took her elimination like a champ. I hope to see more of her.

"You are a shady elephant" was probably my favorite Bianca line of the episode, I love Untucked.

:swoon: NPH NEXT WEEK ON THE "DRAG UP A STRAIGHT GUY" CHALLENGE:swoon:

e: oh my god though, those bells at the beginning of the promo for next week are the same as my phone alarm and it's driving me nuts every time I see the commercial.

e2: Ahahahaha Magnolia coming up in Untucked, proving once again that she sucks. For those that don't watch after the show (why don't you watch Untucked), Magnolia said that she thinks celebrity impersonations are stupid, and also said "gently caress Cher." Adore's reaction was hysterical. "Who the gently caress is that?!? I've never met it."

I love that Magnolia keeps putting her foot in the mouth from the grave.

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Combed Thunderclap posted:

^^EDIT: Jealous. :colbert:

I'd be fine with bringing back Gia Gunn April to off Darienne and Joslyn before packing her bags herself, but I agree that the show's realized that Ru eliminates queens for a reason.

I am 100% fine with Shangela making it on the show every season and then always getting eliminated every season (to appear for exactly one episode later in the season, of course). One of the fiercest, most ridiculous queens when administered in very small doses.

Even in her season, when she got the villain edit, I found myself pretty frequently rooting for her. She was totally right about the whole heathers thing being idiotic, and she was funny and gorgeous more often than not. I miss her.

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Darienne's earrings had perfect comedic timing this week. The one that fell off during the interview and her tusk earrings were both hysterical to me for some reason.

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Elucidarius posted:

If only she could learn from them.

:cawg: I love you.


So what's everyone's picks for All Stars 2? I'm assuming past winners and people who were on the first All Stars can't compete, although I have no basis for that.

My roster is:
Alaska Thunderfuck
Willam
Shangela
Detox
Jiggly Caliente
Stacey Layne Matthews
Alyssa Edwards
Morgan McMichaels
Ongina
Jade (season 1, not Jade Jolie)
Trinity K Bonet (get back here girl)
Tatianna
PhiPhi O'hara (I'm not kidding. She's awesome live and I think she should get another chance to not look like a giant rear end in a top hat on national TV)

I think Jujubee should come back too. But just because she's the best. :colbert:

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Take it back, Jiggly was amazing solely for the dumbfounded look she does after Lashauwn's classic "Rupaul's Best Friend Race" outburst. I like Jiggly, I'm not sure why, but I think it has something to do with her getting her name from a Pokemon. Definitely way out of her league though. :)

Tin Miss posted:

there's something about Sharon that puts me off. I mean obviously when you're put up against Phi Phi O'Hara you're gonna come off as the better person, but she's too...smug, maybe? for me to really see her as a favourite. But I'm only at Episode 6 so I'll watch more and maybe I'll change my mind.

I was in love with Sharon while the season aired, but that was also the first season I watched and pretty much my first exposure to drag outside of Pickle Surprise. I agree that there's something a little too "over it" about her, or something. She's definitely more than a little impressed with herself. Having seen her live, too, she does rest a little on the "I'm spooky and weird, gently caress you" schtick, whereas a lot of the other queens I've seen do vastly different poo poo than they did on the show. I liked Sharon's attitude and message a lot when I first saw the season, and I still do to an extent, but I definitely agree about her.

Her Snatch Game Michelle is still my favorite impersonation ever. HAHAHA :witch:

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spite house posted:

Season 3 had Manila's Macarthur Park lipsync though.

So, here's a question; if you had to recommend one season to someone who was totally new to the show, which would it be? I was thinking 4 because there were so many great moments and Sharon hadn't fallen from grace yet, but Tin Miss makes a good point about the weak challenges. I'd blocked out the loving boats.

Hard to say, I think each one has its pros and cons.

Season 1 has some great queens and it's quick, easy to get into, and a logical starting point. It also has loving horrible production value, the Vaseline-cam is pretty brutal and it feels like the show doesn't know what it's doing yet. And loving Rebecca Glasscock.

Season 2 has Jujubee, Raven, great challenges and a ton of talent, but it still feels like the show hasn't hit its stride yet. Also NICOLE PAIGE BROOKS, although short lived, is unbearable. I think it's probably the least satisfying season because of Tyra's win, too. She's talented as poo poo and gorgeous but has no personality whatsoever and just makes sour faces all season. I'm still butthurt about neither Jujubee nor Raven getting the crown though.

Season 3 had some fun challenges and finally feels like the show hit its stride. The queens, though, felt like a lot of cannon fodder and yeah, it's pretty clear Raja is destroying it all. Not to mention all of that stupid Heathers poo poo, the Mimi Fiasco, etc. Still had some lovable queens, I love me some Stacey Layne Matthews, henny. And Shangela. Shangela is both a pro and a con.

Season 4 we've discussed. Goofy uninspired challenges and middling talent at times, but it has some classic moments from when the show first started to get huge. Also has some of the best lip syncs of the series.

Season 5 starts to feel a little too producer-meddly and some of the lip syncs really show that. Jinkx got a loving Yma Sumac song. The challenges and personalities were much more fun than season 4, though, save for the prefab Coco-Alyssa feud. Also Alaska was on this season, which automatically makes it best. The cast felt pretty cannon-foddery, with a lot of queens you just knew weren't even top five material.

I think season 6 is shaping up to be my favorite, actually. Bianca and Adore are everything.

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I love that they used the same stock music they use on Always Sunny right before they announced the challenge. :haw:

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If Darienne makes it further than anyone else left, I will be very angry about this TV show.

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I honestly think Shangela is my favorite queen ever on the show and I have no idea why. If she isn't on all stars 2...

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:smith: DeLa...

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sethsez posted:

If anything, this episode shows the flaws of the challenge / lip sync system. Ben probably should have been in the bottom two, and Ben did do worse in the lip sync, but Darienne did so much worse at the challenge that it doesn't feel like that should matter.

Seriously, Darienne's first look would have given Jade Jolie a migraine. She looked like a bad 90s screensaver. All three of her looks tonight were some hot garbage.

However, I do totally agree that Darienne doesn't deserve the backlash she's getting. While I loved Ben, I think we saw tonight that even when she thinks she's doing something completely different, it still comes across as the same thing again. Two of her three looks were the same ones we've seen all season from her. As much as I hate to admit it, I'm bored of what she brought to the competition and I can see why she's gone.

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QUADRUPAUL LIP SYNC YESSSSS MY PRAYERS ANSWERED.

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Nihonniboku posted:

I cannot express enough how nice it is that the top queens seem to really enjoy each other. The negativity is really draining normally.

Yeah, it's really refreshing to have a group where one of them hasn't been constantly spouting stupid negative poo poo and isn't making an rear end of herself before the finale like we've had for the last two seasons. I really like all of these girls a lot, and this is probably the closest it's ever been going into the finale. I honestly have no idea who's gonna take it.

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Courtney Act interacting with a binturong is now officially the best part of this season.


I just love binturongs, though. :3:

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Hey Girl posted:

I really miss Drag U if only to watch the more personal and less competitive side of these queens. I wasn't really a fan of Raven's until Drag U. Can you imagine Jinx on Drag U? She'd be sooooo brilliant.

This happened to me with Mariah. I thought she was super boring on season 3 until I watched Drag U and started to check her out outside of the show and realized she's actually fresh as poo poo. Some queens just don't come across as well in the reality TV format.

If anyone doesn't like Jujubee I will actually fight them. She's for real one of the funniest queen ever on the show, but still glamorous as hell and gorgeous to boot. She's probably the funniest straight up glamour queen. And yes, Tammie on All Stars is an absolute delight to see. Brown Flowers forever!

I'm glad Morgan McMichaels still seems to be around, I really wanna see her in All Stars 2. I was surprised Alyssa wasn't in the talking heads though, I still want more! Alaska was great as always.

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