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Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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A Yolo Wizard posted:

I have an audio line I don't use (who wants audio from the underside of a multirotor lol) would that be easier.

oh yeah do that. just have it beep out CW

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Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

spankmeister posted:

huh? Answer B is a perfectly valid 23cm freq

yeah but in the hf bands things get stupid iirc idk i got mad while studying the general because of how frequently it didnt make sense

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Jonny 290 posted:

voting we start the YOSPOS Ordained Society for Promotion Of Signals radio club

voted 5x5

moron izzard
Nov 17, 2006

Grimey Drawer
got me tech license. Maybe should have studied for / done the general too.

The testing area had both a Krystal and a White castle less than a mile away from it it was amazing

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

A Yolo Wizard posted:

got me tech license. Maybe should have studied for / done the general too.

The testing area had both a Krystal and a White castle less than a mile away from it it was amazing

i have only seem tests administered in churches, fire departments and schools

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
the amateur radio society near me that does testing has an entire house to itself (they may or may not rent out the apartment on top, idk)

sleepy gary
Jan 11, 2006

I have an RTL SDR and I live in a tiny apartment with windows only in one direction. I would like to be able to receive airband but the included antenna doesn't seem up to the task. Is it possible to get a worthwhile signal without an antenna outside? What kind of antenna would you recommend (preferably one I can build easily with very basic supplies)?

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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Sniep posted:

i have only seem tests administered in churches, fire departments and schools

I took my gen/extra in the hangar of the old fayetteville airport which is 20% charter flights and 80% museum
weird to be thinking about radio stuff with a cessna hanging over your head on wires

vov it worked tho

longview
Dec 25, 2006

heh.

DNova posted:

I have an RTL SDR and I live in a tiny apartment with windows only in one direction. I would like to be able to receive airband but the included antenna doesn't seem up to the task. Is it possible to get a worthwhile signal without an antenna outside? What kind of antenna would you recommend (preferably one I can build easily with very basic supplies)?

you won't have room for anything much larger than a half-wave dipole in a window, that's what most airports seem to use anyway. I'd design it for around 120-130 MHz.
I wouldn't try tuning it, air band is one of those serious business bands where even owning transmitters tends to be illegal

any more gain in an omni antenna and they become extremely tall, or you have to build a yagi
2-3 element yagi could play, just add a reflector to the dipole afterwards

and check the RX gain setting on the dongle first

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

longview posted:

you won't have room for anything much larger than a half-wave dipole in a window, that's what most airports seem to use anyway. I'd design it for around 120-130 MHz.
I wouldn't try tuning it, air band is one of those serious business bands where even owning transmitters tends to be illegal

any more gain in an omni antenna and they become extremely tall, or you have to build a yagi
2-3 element yagi could play, just add a reflector to the dipole afterwards

and check the RX gain setting on the dongle first

in the us you can own any sort of radio transmitter for any frequency, including government or military.

Try transmitting, though, and

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

if i wanted to play around with an sdr would i want/need an LNA between my antenna and my sdr box

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

for listening, that is

would prob want a PA for txing

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Bloody posted:

if i wanted to play around with an sdr would i want/need an LNA between my antenna and my sdr box

Nah it's got plenty of gain

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

cool, just gotta design/build/acquire some antennas and go hog wild with some gnuradio neckbeardery

Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008
so i guess they regrounded the local repeater wrong and now the repeater is playing FM radio.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Korean Boomhauer posted:

so i guess they regrounded the local repeater wrong and now the repeater is playing FM radio.

call the DJ and ask what kind of radio he's using

moron izzard
Nov 17, 2006

Grimey Drawer

Sniep posted:

i have only seem tests administered in churches, fire departments and schools

it was at a community college in somerset.


I really only got this for legal reasons w/r/t rc / fpv stuff but I guess I should look into talking to other people.

moron izzard
Nov 17, 2006

Grimey Drawer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmUD9Vmjj4E

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

tot he top

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?445092-Amateur-Radio-Superstation-K3LR

ham posted:

I recently had an opportunity to visit the station of Tim Duffy, K3LR of West Middlesex, PA. Tim has been a ham since 1972 and in 1987 he bought an 11 acre, 1860's farm property and immediately started setting up his dream station. Today, 27 years later, it has become that and much more. Simply stated, the K3LR station is one of the number one Multi/Multi contest DX stations on the planet. Tim engineered and built the entire station and its massive 11 acre antenna farm of 13 towers, including its Yagi's, directional arrays, and switching systems that give it capabilities that are seldom seen in the amateur world.


The photo above shows a partial picture of the layout. The operating positions are in the basement of the old farm house (the white building) and nearly every antenna is fed with 1 5/8 inch hardline in uninterrupted runs that span as much as 1500 feet from the antennas to the shack. Why hard line? Although very expensive new, most of the line Tim used was obtained used as surplus from cellular or two way antenna companies at a fraction of its original cost. The towers are also from cellular and broadcast surplus sales.

One of Tim's crown jewels is the 20 meter stacked Yagi array. Situated on one of the tall towers, it includes 4 full sized, custom designed 20 meter Yagi's that Tim built himself. Spaced exactly one wavelength apart on the tower, they can be operated either individually or in various phased combinations. Each antenna has its own separate ring rotator. When all 4 are fed in phase and pointed towards Europe, signal reports are 5/9+ on a bad day . With a total of 24 elements in phase, the array sounds like a 1500 watt linear, even when running only 100 watts.

Tim has multiple Yagi's on all bands from 40 through 6 meters however most of his favorite and challenging operating is done on the lower bands with vertical arrays.


Looking up from the ground you get an idea of just how much is going on up there. this could be the 40 meter tower, or perhaps the 20, I couldn't keep track of them all.


This is the base of one of the towers showing all of the switching and control circuits.


This picture shows how the scale of the tower distorts your perspective. At the very top is a full sized, 102 foot, 80 meter dipole. Below that is a 20 meter monoband Yagi. It's worth noting that all of the antennas are monobanders and that there are multiple choices for every band. SWR is never a problem as each antenna is specifically tuned to provide less than 1.2:1 across the design operating band.


[FONT=arial]At first glance, this looks like a tower that is under construction. What it is, however, is a full sized 160M vertical Yagi antenna. The center tower is the radiator (driven element) and it is surrounded by 4 vertical "T" wires that can be switched in and out to provide reflectors and directors in 4 directions.[/FONT]


This picture was altered to highlight the vertical T-wires of the 160 meter vertical Yagi. Note the shorting relay boxes at the base of each wire, used to direct the beam.


Base of the 160M vertical. Note the clear insulators below the supports, and the 1 5/8 Hardline feed. The radial system is also quite massive and uses over 20,000 feet of tinned copper wire that is soldered to the main connector ring, shown above.


This is a 20 meter directional receiving array. Tim has arrays like this for all bands, 80-10 meters. Each antenna consists of a 1/4 wave vertical, spaced 1/4 wave apart.

Let's have a look inside the shack. First, however, you should know what a multi/multi station is used for. A multi/multi station is a Multi-operator / Multi-radio contest station. In the large DX contests, these large stations are in a separate category. Four times per year, Tim invites a dozen or so of the best contest operators from around the world to join him in his shack to work the contests and have fun. The K3LR station has an impressive track record of success, having won (#1 in the USA) an impressive number of DX contests in the multi multi category, especially since 2004. Tim has hosted over 100 different contest operators during the 22 years they have competed in Multi Multi.


This is an excerpt from a chart showing just how winning K3LR has been in the ARRL SSB contest.


Tim, in the shack showing the operating positions. Each operating position works just a single band.



Tim, K3LR and Fred, AA7BQ standing before a few of K3LR's grand prize trophies.



[FONT=arial]Two of the many single band 1500 watt amplifiers that are used at K3LR using a single 8877 tube. No band switch, just pure legal power on a given band.[/FONT]



Another pair of amps, as well as a matrix switch used to configure the receiving antennas. Above to the right is where some of the hardline enters the shack.


A typical operating position. Note the four rotators for a stack of antennas. Every position has either an IC-7800 or an IC-7700 radio. In all, there are about 10 IC-7800's in the shack, including a hot spare. While heavily recognized by ICOM, there is no corporate sponsorship whatsoever. Tim buys nearly all of his gear used, at bargain prices.


Tim at the 20 meter position. We fired it up and were able to work a station in Sweden right away. The operator on the other end refused to believe that we were "barefoot", running 100 watts. You can't understate the power of a 24 element array!

There are also some great videos including a drone fly-over that is impressive. Check out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMzdTQzJjSc

K3LR Icom video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlXu7Q3h8RI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo2mCNJdvdk

K3LR Fly By videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMzdTQzJjSc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kimSQsEKqGE

K3LR QRP QSO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tk4kz5OeIE

More photos in larger formats are available on my Google+ page here

Also, for the detailed (accurate) specs of the station and it's history, see http://www.k3lr.com

Zap!
May 15, 2002

Nuts.
This guy has beat the ham radio game. That 20m phased antenna array is simply amazing.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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contest stations are technically amazing but fulltime contesters are tiny dick nerds

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
that setup has to be approaching 7 figs

Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008
i like ham radio when its making contact across the globe with an antenna hastily made with cheap speaker wire and PVC pipe versus perfectly calculated multi thousand doller setups.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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Korean Boomhauer posted:

i like ham radio when its making contact across the globe with an antenna hastily made with cheap speaker wire and PVC pipe versus perfectly calculated multi thousand doller setups.

Yep, that's the poo poo right there.

Speaking of which, I'm going to finish some radio wiring this week and should be on the air by the weekend. The HF antenna got wanged on a tree when I was backing out so I gotta straighten one section, but other than that ive got all the really important gear.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






jonny what would i need to talk to you from across the globe?

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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spankmeister posted:

jonny what would i need to talk to you from across the globe?

a shortwave (HF) transciever, the right antenna and the right conditions

Best bet would actually probably be a digital mode on the 20 or 30 meter band. You can get out pretty far without needing shitloads of power.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Zap! posted:

This guy has beat the ham radio game. That 20m phased antenna array is simply amazing.

my favorite is the 160m yagi

Zap!
May 15, 2002

Nuts.

atomicthumbs posted:

my favorite is the 160m yagi

On second look, this is pretty awesome with the four directors/reflector wires.

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
can't hit the drat 440 repeater w/ my uv5r anymore. maybe it's the new QTH but it's def annoying. someone was able to listen in reverse or w/e and copy my checkin but ugh. I'm just a few miles from the repeater.

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
kinda wondering if the mic is hosed. I remember I had roger beeps on my first checkin and they couldn't hear me well but beep came thru loud and clear

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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There is a Ham Radio Outlet in town.

I am about to go broke as hell

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
have you ever been to microcenter jonny? looks like denver has one of those too

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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nope theres a vast array of retail establishments that i need to go throw money at


sadface at no Fry's though

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






I had half a chance to go work for Echostar in Englewood a couple years back and although the adventure would be cool I'm glad it didn't happen because I checked glassdoor and gently caress.

Living in Denver was really tempting tho.

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

Bump.

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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Thanks, guys. :D I have a "visit ham radio outlet" item on my evernote, and have money in my pocket. hrmmmmmmm

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
:rip: ur checking account

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Jimmy Carter
Nov 3, 2005

THIS MOTHERDUCKER
FLIES IN STYLE
ugh I used to have an FT-857D and I sold it because money for college and now i'm feeling so much nostalgia/regret

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