Badass Panels: An Alternate Dimension Called the Idiot Zone

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Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

I think it's the writing of the Joker character that's out of touch. Completely explaining his entire inconsistency schtick, not having a fallback, "why are you laughing", is just a strawman editorial version of the Joker for Superman to rip on.

# ¿ Aug 23, 2014 21:00

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 20:04

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

I agree with you- the problem is it's been done before, and much better. That's just the well-known ones from the animated series. By contrast, this Joker's a strawman with none of the traits that actually define the character.

# ¿ Aug 24, 2014 06:03

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

From the angle and perceived action it mostly looks like Ock is going in for a smooch.

Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Sep 25, 2014

# ¿ Sep 25, 2014 04:12

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

I think it works there, but the clothes removal is the part that pushes it right up to the line.

# ¿ Jan 28, 2015 00:34

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

I'm reading about Top 10 and having trouble seeing the appeal. The Justice League analogues are pedophiles- how witty! It sounds like an extended in-joke with Moore's typical love of the grim and quirkily mentally dysfunctional taken to excess.

# ¿ Apr 28, 2015 01:48

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

The best that can be said for the writing on display is that it's hard to distinguish it from Ennis.

# ¿ Apr 29, 2015 00:03

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

qntm posted:

People complain about Superman being "boring" because "he's invincible and nothing can hurt him and he always wins".

One-Punch Man doesn't even have Kryptonite.

WickedHate posted:

One Punch Man can't fly, it evens out.

Pyronic posted:

He's also broke.

Also, it's a comedy comic.

# ¿ May 20, 2015 21:12

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Everyone looks like they're passing a kidney stone the entire time.

# ¿ Jul 16, 2015 23:16

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

That's pretty great, although the Emperor's poo poo-eating grin, coupled with the fully serious line "Get me Vilmarh Grahrk" kinda reminds you that yes, this is Star Wars comics, with all associated problems.
...took me four checks to be sure I had that spelled right.

# ¿ Jul 29, 2015 01:47

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

I don't really see anything badass about it, actually.

# ¿ Jul 31, 2015 06:11

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Alhazred posted:

(From Rake at the Gates of Hell)
Calling Constantine on his poo poo is pretty badass.

This is badass. Setting up strawmen for torture scenes by having them buy a new refrigerator is not.

# ¿ Jul 31, 2015 21:52

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

darthbob88 posted:

A 70 mile round-trip, about half a million times, in something less than a microsecond. By a quick calculation, that's something on the order of 94 million c, and probably higher considering just how quick that actually was and how many trips he actually had to take. (Also, he definitely had to move faster than the speed of light, otherwise he'd still lose a lot of people to radiation)

Given the proximity of the mushroom cloud, he's still going to lose all the people to radiation.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 19:36

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

To be fair to BB (and to bring this full circle a bit), it had a lot less continuity to work with and had to balance establishing new characters with providing sufficient action to justify its continued existence and build its fanbase, all without strip-mining BtAS for ideas. Given what it was following up on and how long it lasted, I really think the show did a remarkably good job of it- though I totally agree it got quite killy.

# ¿ Aug 23, 2015 23:23

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Rough Lobster posted:

drat Terry's dad got life's short end of the stick. Turns out your handsome athlete son has nothing to do with you genetically, your boss is a maniac, and then you get killed by juggalos.

He's killed by his boss's goons-the clowns were a red herring set up by them to shift blame.

# ¿ Aug 25, 2015 15:46

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

This Hyperion material is the most badass thing that's been posted here in weeks.

X-O, why should superman be deeply connected and fully in sync with humanity? At that point he's afforded a level of absolute moral and physical superiority that makes him, at best, uninteresting, and frequently, what this comic calls "the biggest bully in the playground". Absent the struggle of connecting with or reacting to humanity, there's no longer any sense of tension, change or development with Superman- the classic problem of the character.

# ¿ Aug 26, 2015 00:52

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Ignite Memories posted:

How the gently caress are they going to make a movie with black bolt?

It'll be a comedy about Lil' Black Bolt having to deal with various awkward situations as his powers develop-asking Susie to the dance, participating in the school spelling bee, something something cosmic macguffin.

# ¿ Sep 8, 2015 23:13

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

As a counterpoint (not to truly defend IC), it's kinda conceptually difficult to have a villain that can take down Flash that isn't a speedster if they're assuming his perceptive powers are also superfast- it's the typical Superman problem.

# ¿ Sep 18, 2015 03:58

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

The speed of thought thing is usually a handwaved narrative convenience, like most of the elements of flash and superman- but that narrative convenience needs to move both ways. The plot of IC was such that they needed someone who could gimmick their way out of individual Justice League heavies, then be dragged down by several justice league members at once to hit the next story beat. Given the other really horrible things that IC did, the contrivance of "non-speedster/wizard/psychic able to do anything against the Flash" is really the very last thing to complain about.

edit: the hawkeye/galactus thing is a great exemplar of the difference in companies at this point- I could totally see that being contrived up as a joke, whereas DC...and especially IC...it would end badly.

# ¿ Sep 18, 2015 06:43

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Sigma-X posted:

I will never understand why people hate The Punisher as a comic book character. Like, his vigilantism is SUPER BAD and we should hate him because in real life it would be loving terrible, meanwhile some loving dude in a cape gets the city wrecked every other week and everyone is like "he's so cool because he never kills anyone (except for all those people underneath him) but if that happened even once it would be full out nuclear war on that guy because every battle would be a 9/11 sized tragedy at best and would make Katrina look like it was handled intelligently.

The dudes in capes normally don't kill people as a side effect of their day to day fights. While this is a writing convention and a handwave, it's well-established. Superman et al aren't generally killing people as a side effect- and when that does happen, it's a huge deal.

# ¿ Nov 9, 2015 05:56

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

uPen posted:

This could become a genre.

# ¿ Dec 8, 2015 03:06

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

I'd kinda like a star wars eu something that goes

:clint:

You are in fact a descendant of Jedi blood and have inherited force powers!

:hist101:

Really!?!

No you idiot. Learn to shoot straight and use poison or explosive traps on the dudes with the magical laser reflector swords.

# ¿ Dec 8, 2015 21:19

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Nevvy Z posted:

Brian K Vaughn writes good poo poo.
The finale of We Stand on Guard.

I can't tell if you're being serious.

Also, what's with prominent comics writers all looking like arch-redditors?

# ¿ Dec 20, 2015 20:59

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Doc Hawkins posted:

Talk about evergreen content. They should just re-publish it with new art every decade.

No real need for new art

# ¿ Dec 27, 2015 22:39

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Say Nothing posted:

Punisher: The Cell.

God, that's dumb. Once again, we cycle back around to Rorschach played straight.

# ¿ Jan 24, 2016 11:00

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

"See that ~~nig~~guy? He likes unlubricated anal sex. I hear he's going to try to kill you, which isn't related, but I wanted to establish that he's-"

*Punisher injures two guards and kills man based on 8 seconds worth of unsubstantiated rumor/sexual preferences/race*

Miller shows more self-awareness. Who wrote this rapey racism violencefest?!? *checks* Oh.

# ¿ Jan 24, 2016 11:19

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

The writing's good, but those faces are peak 90s. Who's the artist?

# ¿ Feb 5, 2016 20:24

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Those are really stupid.

# ¿ Feb 27, 2016 09:51

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

goldenoreos posted:

Always freaking hated that panel.

Great red text title material, though.

# ¿ Mar 6, 2016 02:14

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

CzarChasm posted:

We've secretly replaced Captain America with Batman. Let's tune in and see if anyone notices.

If batman did that no one would have died. :colbert:

# ¿ Mar 19, 2016 23:45

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

team overhead smash posted:

This is why people hate mutants.

Their poor fashion sense?

# ¿ Mar 20, 2016 03:14

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

They need to swap out that last panel into "gently caress you, Millar!"

# ¿ May 22, 2016 18:03

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Parahexavoctal posted:

When Ennis writes stuff like Arseface, or Ma Gnucci getting her limbs eaten by polar bears, it doesn't feel as stupid, somehow. Why is that?

It's still pretty stupid. Ennis just likes to mix his needless profanity and excessive violence with existential or futurist wank, so it feels "balanced".

Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 17:47 on May 24, 2016

# ¿ May 24, 2016 17:34

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

The futurist part was a ninja edit when I got them crossed, but the rest holds. Ennis uses cheap emotive ploys and wankery to justify characters like the Messiah.

# ¿ May 24, 2016 21:01

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l63SRpGXBHE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgJ5AcsXp4M

Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Oct 22, 2016

# ¿ Oct 22, 2016 00:00

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

"Everybody who can falls silent"?

# ¿ Feb 19, 2017 23:16

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

dont even fink about it posted:

Yeah well why are you wearing a bra on your head?

It's

a pussy hat.

# ¿ May 6, 2017 00:37

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Lurdiak posted:

Isn't that joke directly stolen from something else?

It's been done a few times, on Metalocalypse recently, iirc.

# ¿ Jun 24, 2017 08:18

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Alhazred posted:

Until an entire island populated with non-mutants are incinerated or ordinary people are put in concentration camps mutants are more at risk than any other Marvel character.

Uncle Ben.

# ¿ Jul 4, 2017 18:14

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Most of what I'm getting from that convenience store scene is a lack of consistent object placement.

# ¿ Nov 29, 2017 16:59

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 20:04

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

The dialogue/ultraviolence also is giving me uncomfortable ennis/millar "this is what members of these minority groups talk like" vibes.

# ¿ Nov 30, 2017 21:55

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