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Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


"I hope that none of you gentlemen is so foolish as to think that aeroplanes will be usefully employed for reconnaissance purposes in war." - General Douglass Haig, Commander of the British Expeditionary Force, addressing his officers, July 1914.



What is Rise of Flight

Rise of Flight is a combat flight simulator focused on the dawn of air combat in the skies above the trenches of World War I. First released in 2009 by Russian studio Neoqb and their publisher 777 studios, today the game is developed directly by 777 studios, who purchased Neoqb in 2010. Its a really cool and somewhat challenging game and I've been enjoying it quite a bit lately and some other goons have been getting into it as well, hence I felt a thread might be cool (so we stop bugging the War Thunder thread about biplanes that aren't the Chaika).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u0g2_IsXzw

Do I need a joystick?

Yes, you need a joystick. This is, for better or worse, a serious flight sim and lacks anything like War Thunder's mouse controls. You could use a keyboard to fly like its Wing Commander and 1990 again, but I really doubt you would enjoy it. [edit] A couple people have been experimenting with 360 gamepads, and achieving some measure of success, though apparently it is quite difficult. You could try this, but I would still personally say a joystick is almost mandatory.

So where can I get it?

The easiest two ways to obtain Rise of Flight is from Steam :steam: or from the Rise of Flight Website.



What is with all this DLC stuff?!

That is the downside to Rise of Flight, 777 Studios are big fans of microtransactions and well, RoF divied up piecemeal. Not only can you buy planes individually, but you can even buy modifications for them, like extra guns and flight instruments. It is a bit silly, but really it isn't as bad as it sounds. You can easily live without any of the field/weapon mods or silly colored scarves or a sidearm or an extra machinegun.

A free/demo version of Rise of Flight is freely downloadable on the Rise of Flight Website. It allows you to fly two aircraft, the French Spad 13 and the German Albatros D.Va on the Western Front map without paying a cent. You can play multiplayer with these, fly a career, or just goof around with them, so if you're on the fence give it a try.

As for actually buying the game, there are two standard ways I'd recommend to buy into the game. First off the cheaper route is to pick up the Iron Cross Edition upgrade at the RoF website. This comes with 9 Scouts (Fighters) mostly focused on 1917 through 1918 and the Western Front map (Central France). You could easily play dozens/hundreds of hours with just this as those aircraft are more than enough to get by, in fact, if you don't mind flying for the French, you could pretty much play a career from 1916 to the end of the war via the planes available.

However, if you want to go through steam, you can buy the Channel Battles Edition, which costs $50 normally and comes with everything in the Iron Cross edition and also comes with the English Channel map (which also features Belgium) as well as the Felixstowe Seaplane (a large multi-crew patrol aircraft). If you have the patience to wait for a steam sale (and its gone on sale several times since its September debut on Steam) this is how I'd recommend to get into the game, personally.

:steam: vs RoF Store

:siren: IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE STEAM VERSION IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH PURCHASES MADE ON THE RISE OF FLIGHT STORE. :siren:
The two different versions can play together in multiplayer just fine. However, for poorly explained "database" reasons, you can't buy the Channel Battles Edition on steam, activate it to your new Rise of Flight Account, and then go buy a single aircraft via the Rise of Flight Store. If you have the steam version you're stuck having to buy the steam DLC packs.

The benefit of the Steam version is the usual aggressive sales you'll see on steam, I pretty much bought everything when it hit a 75% off flash sale during the winter event. The downside is that you can't quite pick and choose what you want as finely as the RoF store, in addition there are currently two aircraft not available via the steam version since there is no DLC pack associated with them, steam users will likely have to wait until 777 studios puts out enough aircraft to create another DLC pack.

The benefit of the RoF store version is having the freedom to pick and choose what you want as you wish. The downside is that they have sales less frequently, and they usually don't put everything on sale.



Ok, enough about buying the game, tell me more about the game itself! What biplanes are in the game?

I wrote up a big effort post containing short profiles of all the planes in the game in this post.


What gameplay modes are available?

The campaigns (there are several) area a series of predefined scenarios with a loose storyline. There is a "Fly Now" mode where you pick a plane and then dumped in a map where there are various areas where you can fly to practice dogfighting, attacking ground targets, attacking balloons, or you can just fly around and get a feel for the aircraft. In addition there is a quick skirmish mode, where you select a map, mission, type and number of friendly and enemy aircraft (both can be set to random) and then launch into the mission, immediately being thrust into the thick of things.



Didn't you mention a Career mode earlier?

Career mode (technically still a beta, but ignore that) is perhaps the meat of the singleplayer experience in Rise of Flight. In career mode you pick a nation and service to play with, pick a date, pick a squadron, and then you fight in the skies above the trenches one day at a time. Career mode is a series of dynamically generated missions.



HOWEVER most RoF Goons have now converted over to Pat Wilson's Campaign Generator, an awesome 3rd party career mode generator. It has proven to be more awesome, with a livelier front-line, greater mission variety, and lots of neat features the standard career mode doesn't have. Its easy to use too. You simply run PWCG, start/select a career, generate a mission, and then switch over to RoF to play it. While you play RoF spits out a log, once you're done flying you alt-tab back over and submit a combat report (where you have to actually claim your kills!) and PWCG reads the logs and interprets the results.




PWCG generally has more aircraft out there doing their own things (and this is adjustable via settings if your computer is slow) and also tracks famous aces and makes them real world entities. You can fly along side Eddie Rickenbacker or René Fonck in the French air crops... or poo poo yourself in terror as you see Manfred von Richtofen's blood-red Fokker tri-plane poised to dive on you from above. It also has a lot of configurable options (though they can be safely ignored) such as setting how likely you are to receive certain missions, how likely weather is to be poor, and even how badly hurt you can be (just hurt for a few weeks? Wounded for months? or Dead is Dead?). You can even play a career as an Observer (a two-seater gunner) and even that can be surprisingly exciting.

What I'm trying to say is USE PAT WILSONS! IT IS AWESOME



What about Multiplayer?

I haven't actually given multiplayer a try yet, personally. However I know there is a reasonably active online community of pilots on a variety of servers. One of the reasons this thread was started was growing interest among goons in doing some stuff aeroplanes together similar to the IL-2 or Arma Goons. I'll fill this section in more when I actually try multiplayer. :shobon:

However, one thing I do know is that it is possible to play as the observer/gunner of another player!



Ok, enough about this, how about some more pretty pictures?




Useful Extras:

Official Rise of Flight Forums
Official Skin Pack
Pat Wilson's Campaign Generator
PWCG Instructions
Pat Wilson Skin Packs (Sorted by plane, used in his campaign generator, as are the official skins!)
List of RoF Goons and their timezones

Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Mar 20, 2014

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Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Help, I how do I fly this thing? I pull on the stick and the whole plane just goes into a spin or stalls. I go into a dive and my engine spews oil all over my face and breaks or my wings tear off. Where are my flaps and trim? Where is the altimeter?! Why does my Fokker Eindecker have no throttle or ailerons?! :gonk:

These aircraft are pretty primitive even by the standards you might be used to via IL-2 and WW2 planes in general. The cannot climb or dive nearly as aggressively as a WW2 fighter can. Their engines are not exceptionally powerful, the aircraft are often quite finicky, and early on a single mistake can kill you. However you do get used to things pretty quickly. For beginners I wouldn't recommend jumping into the cockpit of a Sopwith Camel of Fokker Dr.I Triplane (both infamous as very tricky aircraft). I would recommend a more forgiving aircraft like the German Albatros D.Va (one of the free/demo planes btw) or the British S.E.5a. Also, if you don't feel comfortable without such luxuries as an altimeter and an airspeed indicator, you might want to stick with Allied aircraft, most German aircraft are spartan and rarely have many instruments beyond a tachometer as standard.

If you're experiencing your engine seemingly self-destructing during dives, the cause is almost certainly that you're over-revving the engine and breaking it, reduce throttle when diving. If your wings are coming off... well don't dive that fast and/or don't pull out of a dive that hard, take it gentle! If you're losing control of the plane when you try to turn, do the same, take it easy with the stick and don't just slam it into the turn/roll.

Ok, I can kinda fly now, but I can't seem to hit poo poo with my guns!



Get closer. :mad:



No, I said get closer.:argh:



CLOSER. :tizzy:



Good, now you can shoot. Aim for the heart the aircraft! That is the engine, the pilot, and the center/roots of the wings. Don't bother putting bullets into his tail or the outter part of his wings if you can help it. Sure you might do some damage, but for the most part those areas are just empty canvas covered frame. The most reliable way to down an enemy is to take out the engine or kill the pilot (I believe 4 bullets will kill a pilot/gunner in RoF).

When firing use short, controlled bursts. Your guns will rapidly lose accuracy due to vibration and recoil. That said, if you get a great point blank shot, don't be afraid to hold that trigger down! Most jams are caused by poor quality ammunition, how long the gun has been firing is only a secondary contributor.

I don't have Headtracking, how can I look around and find my doom the enemy? Why isn't my gunsight properly lined up?

First off, hopefully you have a joystick with a hat. This should be bound to look around, by pressing F9 you can cycle through several different modes that effect the behavior of the view hat, experiment! The mouse can also be used for free-look and its what I prefer to use when I'm not in a fight, where it proves too awkward. In addition F8 is padlock view, this will lock onto a nearby enemy and the camera will track them, press F8 to cycle through enemy aircraft (And balloons) and Shift+F8 to cycle through friendlies, Press F1 to return to normal cockpit view. The numpad can also be used for snap views.

Next up, in addition to looking around with the hat or mouse, you can actually shift the camera (your head) itself around inside the cockpit with the Ins/Del/Home/End/PgUP/PgDn keys. This can be really useful for peering over the edge of your cockpit to the ground below or leaning to one side so you can see past the nose when landing. It can also be useful for aligning your view with your gunsight like so:

Default view


Aiming down my sights (Slightly out of alignment)


If you feel like changing your default view position, this can be done by manipulating the camera and then pressing F10. If you want to edit a snap view, this can be done by pressing that key on the numpad, holding it, adjusting the camera, and then pressing F10 (keep holding the numpad button down, awkward!). If you accidentally mess up the default view and your attempts at recentering the camera bring out your inner :spergin:, you can go into the [install location]/Rise of Flight 2.0/data/LuaScripts/snapviews folder and delete the .scv file that matches the plane you screwed up, this will generate a new default file and restore your original camera positions.

You may want to consider rebinding some of these commands. For example, I have the zoom in/out and return to default view button bound onto my joystick and I've rebound the head repositioning keys for left/right, up/down to the arrow keys on the keyboard.

What is with the telescopes?

Those "telescopes" you might see in some screenshots or as an field-mod option on many aircraft are the British Aldis (or French Le-Chretien) Collimated Gunsight. Now if you want to know what a collimator is, please reference wikipedia, so I don't make this post any more longwinded. All you need to know is that you can treat it like a WW1 red-dot sight. Just put the ring over the enemy and fire! Your exact head position doesn't matter. In real life this thing was usually much easier to use than a bead-and-ring iron-sight and many pilots highly prized them (captured/trophy Aldis sights were quite valued by German pilots), however others didn't like it and would remove it on the couple planes it came standard on (such as the S.E.5a). Also, despite their appearance and fancy mirrors and lenses, the Aldis has little to no magnification. There is also German Oigee Reflector gunsights that works the same way in application, put crosshair/dot over enemy and fire.


And finally, remember the German Pilot's motto; I will be like Bolecke, and follow these rules!
    Dicta Boelcke

    * Try to secure advantages before attacking. If possible, keep the sun behind you.
    * Always carry through an attack when you have started it.
    * Fire only at close range, and only when your opponent is properly in your sights.
    * Always keep your eye on your opponent, and never let yourself be deceived by ruses.
    * In any form of attack it is essential to assail your opponent from behind.
    * If your opponent dives on you, do not try to evade his onslaught, but fly to meet it.
    * When over the enemy's lines never forget your own line of retreat.
    * For the Staffel: attack on principle in groups of four or six. When the fight breaks up into a series of single combats, take care that several do not go for one opponent.

    — Hauptmann Oswald Boelcke, 1916. Germany's first ace, died in 1916 with 40 victories.

And remember, never give up!

Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Mar 5, 2014

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:
Can people who have the free version ride in other people's planes that they (obviously) don't own or do they have to own said plane before riding in the back? This is important because I need to know if I can crash and kill give joyrides to my friends.

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


I believe that, yes, players can be observer for aircraft they do not personally own.

Ess
Mar 20, 2013
I bought this game on the cheap but I have yet to play it because I don't have a working stick.

Is this game playable with a keyboard / mouse, or should I just pick up a cheap stick?

Adrian Owlsley
Aug 6, 2010

This galaxy only has room for one karaoke champ.
I got this game a few days ago in the sale and I've been liking it quite a lot. I think the biggest thing I notice about ww1 planes compared to the ww2 planes and jets I'm more used to from other sims is that the relationship between maneuvering and energy is incredibly immediate. Big vertical moves are my favorite flying style, and in a ww1 plane you're pretty much at a dead stop after just one and then in just a few moments afterwards you're already cutting back on the engine to stay below the redline. Power is really precious and it's very often dubious whether my plane has the energy to do the move I want to do at all. I think you have a lot less freedom than in ww2 planes or jets but struggling against those limitations is interesting and has a pretty high skill ceiling. My favorite planes so far are the camel for the risk vs reward and the se5a for the speed.

I have two questions, would the overwing lewis guns really fire automatically when you pull the trigger or would you have to take a hand of the controls to use them? And would you really get oil in your face if you kill the engine due to overevving or is that the devs loving the oil spray effect?

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?

Ess posted:

I bought this game on the cheap but I have yet to play it because I don't have a working stick.

Is this game playable with a keyboard / mouse, or should I just pick up a cheap stick?

From the OP posted:

Do I need a joystick?

Yes, you need a joystick. This is, for better or worse, a serious flight sim and lacks anything like War Thunder's mouse controls. You could use a keyboard to fly like its Wing Commander and 1990 again, but I really doubt you would enjoy it.

I tried to play it with a mouse, and hoooooly poo poo it's not recommended.

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Ess posted:

I bought this game on the cheap but I have yet to play it because I don't have a working stick.

Is this game playable with a keyboard / mouse, or should I just pick up a cheap stick?



I would greatly recommend a stick. Theoretically its keyboard flyable, but I doubt it would be enjoyable at all.

While making the OP, I learned that the next plane they're going to put into Rise of Flight is the Hanriot HD.1 :swoon:



Not only is it, IMO, the most beautiful Scout of WW1, but its also the plane used by my favorite WW1 ace, Balloon Busting Belgian Willy Coppens.

The Hanriot HD.1 was a French design from mid 1916 that was intended to replace the Nieuport 17, however the Spad 7 had just reached front lines and it was faster than the Hanriot, so the French considered the Hanriot unnecessary and canceled almost all of their production order. The Italians and Belgians were eager for aircraft however and not only placed orders, but licensed it for local production. Many Belgian aces were quite fond of the Hanriot (with Coppens being an early advocate for it). It wasn't really all that fast, but it was very agile and easy to fly.

While the French air corps didn't want it, the French Navy did use the HD.2 version with float equipment, and apparently this will be in RoF at least as a variant of the HD.1. :haw:


Artless Meat
Apr 7, 2008



Insert name here posted:

Can people who have the free version ride in other people's planes that they (obviously) don't own or do they have to own said plane before riding in the back? This is important because I need to know if I can crash and kill give joyrides to my friends.

That's what I did before I bought it. I hopped in the free to play and gunned for people. For that, you don't need a joystick, so if you have buddies that want to play Planes the FPS, get them to give it a shot.

Edit:
Also, rockets are fun.

Artless Meat fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Mar 5, 2014

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:

Galaga Galaxian posted:

I believe that, yes, players can be observer for aircraft they do not personally own.

Artless Meat posted:

That's what I did before I bought it. I hopped in the free to play and gunned for people. For that, you don't need a joystick, so if you have buddies that want to play Planes the FPS, get them to give it a shot.
Time to force all my friends to download the free version :getin:

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Adrian Owlsley posted:

I have two questions, would the overwing lewis guns really fire automatically when you pull the trigger or would you have to take a hand of the controls to use them? And would you really get oil in your face if you kill the engine due to overevving or is that the devs loving the oil spray effect?

The Lewis gun would operate from the pilot stick button (or trigger or whatever), yes. You wouldn't need to reach up to grab the actual pistol grip. A wire running from the stick/yoke to the gun works just as well. The pistol grip is still there so it can be operated manually if need be due to a malfunction or if you want to get clever with the foster mount some planes use.



As for the oil spatter, I have no idea. I'm thinking of uninstalling one of the mods I have that changes the spatter effect, because this feels like its too much:

Artless Meat
Apr 7, 2008



Also if anyone is interested, I was going attempt to gather goons to play this on Sunday at around 6pm EST. Add me on Steam (http://steamcommunity.com/id/ArtlessMeat/) or hit me up in IRC or PMs. Was planning on meeting up in the CTS mumble.

Insert name here posted:

Time to force all my friends to download the free version :getin:
They can totally shoot out your tail too!

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Artless Meat posted:

They can totally shoot out your tail too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUHZZwuybiY&t=49s

Wales Grey
Jun 20, 2012

Is Dr. Jones shooting at a He-112?

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


They're probably supposed to be Bf-109s, but they're actually a Pilatus P-2.

Also, the Jones Father&Son are flying in a Stampe SV.4

Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Mar 5, 2014

Wooper
Oct 16, 2006

Champion draGoon horse slayer. Making Lancers weep for their horsies since 2011. Viva Dickbutt.
When that bundle dumped another DLC(the early war planes) on me, I've wanted to restart my French career and even get some other ones started. However the career servers have been down for three days in a row now. :argh:

AMISH FRIED PIES
Mar 6, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Yeah, they did some server maintenance and when it came back up it wasn't entirely functional for everyone. Maybe they're just overloaded by the new bundle users?

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Did you just volunteer to try out Pat Wilson's Campaign Generator for us? I think you did. :getin:

PWCG Instructions

Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Mar 5, 2014

Nuclear Pogostick
Apr 9, 2007

Bouncing towards victory
Man, seeing that scene from Last Crusade as an adult makes me realize just how lovely the bluescreening for it was. :stare:

Miasman
Aug 7, 2011

Oh, you!
Cheers for the heads up on the Indie Gala offer!

I've been tempted by this for ages, but have just been put off by the fairly high entry point, plus DLC prices. This is all I needed to jump in.

My neighbours will love the regular panicked cries of "Hun in the sun!"

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

Nuclear Pogostick posted:

Man, seeing that scene from Last Crusade as an adult makes me realize just how lovely the bluescreening for it was. :stare:

Yeah, uh, that was like watching Italian Spiderman or something.

How essential is it to use a joystick with rudder control in this?

Mr Darcy
Feb 8, 2006

Artless Meat posted:

Also if anyone is interested, I was going attempt to gather goons to play this on Sunday at around 6pm EST. Add me on Steam (http://steamcommunity.com/id/ArtlessMeat/) or hit me up in IRC or PMs. Was planning on meeting up in the CTS mumble.

They can totally shoot out your tail too!

I'd be interested if that didn't work out as 11pm GMT.

Would there be any interest in an earlier session? Maybe 5-6pm GMT?

Wooper
Oct 16, 2006

Champion draGoon horse slayer. Making Lancers weep for their horsies since 2011. Viva Dickbutt.

Mr Darcy posted:

I'd be interested if that didn't work out as 11pm GMT.

Would there be any interest in an earlier session? Maybe 5-6pm GMT?

Same for me.

Rudi Starnberg
Jul 8, 2012
Ok so the first thing we need to do as goons is jump on one of the multiplyer serves with a bunch of " seater planes and go and land on the enemy airfield. This might sound stupid (it is) but because of the pathetic armament that WW1 planes have, planes in the air have a hell of a time killing a plane on the ground, especially if it is shooting back. Park yourself next to the hangars and pop a cap in whoever is unlucky enough to spawn there.

I had a great time doing this with a friend a while back, but with only 1 plane doing it you die eventualy. If we had 2 or 3 crewed planes we should be able to lock down the enemy airfield, which enrages the e-richtofen types to no end.

E: I would prefer early evening gmt too.

Major Isoor
Mar 23, 2011
Good OP there, Galaga!

Although unless I missed it, there's nothing covering camera controls, which from what I've seen, a good few people (myself included) weren't initially aware that you can alter your head position in the cockpit. So I thought I'd quickly get a couple of screenshots and the controls, to preemptively answer the question, as I'm sure people may wonder about this, particularly if they get any of the field mods including additional sights, like the ALDIS sight. Other than that, nice one!

---

So, take a look at this Nieuport which might start off with the sights unaligned, like so:

(It doesn't, but just go with it; I didn't want to look through the whole list until I found one that starts out poorly-aligned! :D)

Anyway, you can move around your point of view, so that you will be correctly looking through the sights as shown below:


With the following controls, this can be as simple as flying a Sopwith flying anything other than a Sopwith! :eng101:

Up: Page Up
Down: Page Down
Left: Delete
Right: End


Also worth noting is that F10 saves the current PoV to be the default, so you don't need to adjust it each time.


EDIT: Also, stop making me regret not recording that one time I actually downed a plane with my luger, as I know it's a pipe-dream to even hope that it will happen again!

Major Isoor fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Mar 5, 2014

Rudi Starnberg
Jul 8, 2012

Major Isoor posted:



Also worth noting is that F10 saves the current PoV to be the default, just so you don't need to adjust it each time.

If you have Track IR this bit is :siren: super important :siren: Otherwise whenever you reset your view you will screw your sights up, and you will have to bob your head about to try and align the sights whilsts also keeping situational awareness and maneuvering.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
This is the best plane in the game



Nothing beats going on a :frogsiren:Sea Patrol:frogsiren: in the mega-comfy cockpit of the Brandenburg W12 and looking for ships/shooting down Felixstowes. I'm also really loving the Roland.

Das Butterbrot
Dec 2, 2005
Lecker.
edit: nevermind

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
I picked this up for :6bux: and I'll have to dust off my joystick and learn how to play this. I watched the giantbomb quicklook back in the day about this game, I did always enjoy their flight videos.

I went to an airshow on the weekend and saw some WW1 planes too, Bristol Boxkite replica flying plus Tiger/Minormoths and such.

Tigermoth!

Feindfeuer
Jun 20, 2013

shoot men, receive credits

Galaga Galaxian posted:

You can easily live without any of the field/weapon mods or silly colored scarves or a sidearm or an extra machinegun.

Worst OP ever. How would I survive air combat without my red scarf or my trusty 1911? :colbert:

Wooper
Oct 16, 2006

Champion draGoon horse slayer. Making Lancers weep for their horsies since 2011. Viva Dickbutt.

Galaga Galaxian posted:

Did you just volunteer to try out Pat Wilson's Campaign Generator for us? I think you did. :getin:

PWCG Instructions

This thing works pretty well as a substitute for the (somehow) server-dependent ingame campaign.
I've flown a few mission in a French Bad Plane campaign and the only issue so far is one kill that didn't get credited to me. In the AAR it didn't read my selection of German Roland as a kill correctly and went "What? I didn't see you kill any Balloon, lol."


The Nieuport 11 is hilarious to fly. It got a very under powered engine and armament consisting of a single wing LMG with 4 drums of ammo.
I do love the wing guns in their stupidity.

Wooper fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Mar 5, 2014

Shine
Feb 26, 2007

No Muscles For The Majority
Are the campaigns and poo poo co-opable? I haven't messed with any co-op options yet.

Rudi Starnberg posted:

If you have Track IR this bit is :siren: super important :siren: Otherwise whenever you reset your view you will screw your sights up, and you will have to bob your head about to try and align the sights whilsts also keeping situational awareness and maneuvering.

I find it best to pause the TrackIR, move the view with the keyboard (using the pilot head controls, not the camera controls!), press F10, and then unpause TrackIR. Now it'll be perfectly aligned.

Shine fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Mar 5, 2014

Zsinjeh
Jun 11, 2007

:shoboobs:

Nuclear Pogostick posted:

Man, seeing that scene from Last Crusade as an adult makes me realize just how lovely the bluescreening for it was. :stare:
For 1989 I still think it's pretty good VFX work :shobon: I especially love the forced perspective shot from the 'leap of faith' trial.

Mr Darcy
Feb 8, 2006

Zsinjeh posted:

For 1989 I still think it's pretty good VFX work :shobon: I especially love the forced perspective shot from the 'leap of faith' trial.

My inner 10yo Mr Darcy still thinks the fx are great. I now daren't watch the film again in case I dissapoint him.

Zsinjeh
Jun 11, 2007

:shoboobs:
Also the thread should totally have been called Rise of Flight - Brought to you by War Thunder™

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Shine posted:

Are the campaigns and poo poo co-opable? I haven't messed with any co-op options yet.


I find it best to pause the TrackIR, move the view with the keyboard (using the pilot head controls, not the camera controls!), press F10, and then unpause TrackIR. Now it'll be perfectly aligned.

The pre-set story campaigns no, I believe, nor the official career mode. I think I remember reading of a way to tinker with a mission file the PWCG makes to use it multiplayer, but I doubt you'd be able to do a career continuity with it.

I'll look into it.

Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Mar 5, 2014

Shine
Feb 26, 2007

No Muscles For The Majority

Zsinjeh posted:

Also the thread should totally have been called Rise of Flight - Brought to you by War Thunder™

At least our thread hijack was thematically similar, unlike those ARMA guys who won't shut up in the IL-2 thread :colbert:.

1.5 TDM servers (1.5 = full sim mode) are fun when there's a 10-plane furball and you can't yet tell planes apart other than by looking at the emblems painted on the wings. The fun part is when somebody has no idea you're stalking them, and you open fire from what feels like twenty feet. Or when that happens to you :negative:.

cool new Metroid game
Oct 7, 2009

hail satan

I love this game and yet I'm also very bad at it. earlier on I did shoot down three dudes with my mad skills luck. Also this is the only sim that I've seen aldis type gun sights done really well.

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Major Isoor posted:

Although unless I missed it, there's nothing covering camera controls, which from what I've seen

Added a section explaining some basic camera stuff, also an explanation of the Aldis Collimator and Le-Chretien collimated gunsights, and Oigee Reflector gunsight.

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Can you throw bricks at other planes?

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