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Been there, done that, just threw the air filter in and closed the lid. Out of sight, out of mind  Oil exposure and age makes them get all baggy like that. Mine still fit at the corners though.
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Yeah it'll need a new box to be completely properly fixed. We wedged it in best we could, and used an old air filter wrap to help seal it up but I have no idea how well that'll work. Perfect excuse for some kind of K&N setup if you ask me, not that I put any stock into their performance gain claims, but I doubt finding a stock filter box that fits our vintage of jeep will be a simple task. E- Just took delivery of the longblock. I'll leave you with this teaser shot for next week's work.  Dare I spy a water pump? Nice! DrPain fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Mar 22, 2014 |
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Mar 22, 2014 00:12
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That's got to be like Christmas morning every time, even if it's not for you
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I assure you that is exactly what it feels like. That engine looks amazingly complete; toyota and hyundai aren't anywhere near as accomodating! The labour saving of just being able to slot in the new lump and bolt on all the ancillaries+manifolds is immense. I'll bet it even has plugs.
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I know you posted it forever ago, but did you get the Ranger running at the right temp? I have a 2.3L with a brand new rad and the same "problem". What kinda rad did you drop in? My theory is that the newer rads work better than whatever they put in back in 96/97.
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Mar 22, 2014 04:33
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Brand new radiators generally aren't clogged with 20 years of poo poo is why.
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revmoo posted:That's got to be like Christmas morning every time, even if it's not for you Better than Christmas morning, because I get to play with other peoples money AND they pay me to do it on top of that!!!  Slavvy posted:I assure you that is exactly what it feels like. That engine looks amazingly complete; toyota and hyundai aren't anywhere near as accomodating! The labour saving of just being able to slot in the new lump and bolt on all the ancillaries+manifolds is immense. IIRC, the lightning long block did indeed come fitted with sparking plugs, so you're probably right. Ford is quite generous with their factory rebuilds. ReptileChillock posted:I know you posted it forever ago, but did you get the Ranger running at the right temp? I have a 2.3L with a brand new rad and the same "problem". What kinda rad did you drop in? My theory is that the newer rads work better than whatever they put in back in 96/97. Slavy hit it on the head. Radiator technology hasn't progressed, it's still a run of the mill water to air heat exchange. They just lose efficiency the longer they are run, same as any mechanical part. I installed a genuine motorcraft thermostat and it got my temp running where I'd like to see it, though if you live in a colder climate you may still yet benefit from wedging some cardboard in front of the radiator. Keep in mind I deal with 120F degrees in August. I installed a performance brand radiator, because they service the taxi cab companies in town, and anything good enough for taxi duty is certainly good enough for me. DrPain fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Mar 22, 2014 |
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Mar 22, 2014 05:28
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Didn't that generation of F-series get a factory immobilizer? 
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some texas redneck posted:Didn't that generation of F-series get a factory immobilizer? From looking at the parts book by application for ignition lock key cylinders, it was an option. I'm seeing with or without transponder listed in the parts book. I'm safely assuming this example did not come equipped with a key transponder, because that drywall saw clearly does not have a transponder.
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Mar 22, 2014 18:39
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It might, cutting devices are getting pretty advanced these days. Seriously though, good luck with that truck, it looks like a war happened in that cab.
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Slung Blade posted:
I uh, fixed that for ya. Isn't that one of the-most stolen era of fords too? Like easy enough to break into with a piece of swiss cheese and a butter knife? but then again, that interior is the anti theft
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I really need to get a photo of my buddies farm truck.... that thing, there is not a single word to describe it.... just layers of cow poo poo, mud, sweat. The smell is horrendous. 
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Not much happened yesterday, we mostly just disassembled the drywall F350 and prepped for pulling its engine out.  All this poo poo came out of it.  There's the exhaust, you can really see the oil drips good with it removed. I ordered a case of de-greaser. It'll be cleaned before re-installation, because clean parts go on cars.  Intake, this will get a good solvent bath as well.  Fuel rail and injectors.  Humongous 1-row radiator.  The drywall truck must have got lonely, so it called its brothers over to keep it company for the night.  The 6.0 Diesel F350 returned for that injector repair. We tore down to the injector wiring to find #6 was not plugged in. We plugged it in. That solved the misfire, but the hard start problem is a little more severe than that. It's got a bad high pressure oil pump, not putting out near enough pressure to fire the injectors and that is A Bad Thing™, because it's 9 hours of labor and a $800 part. The customer states they had been working on it themselves attempting to fix this problem, and so I'm pretty sure it was them who left the #6 injector unplugged. This customer wants to drive a big manly diesel bro truck, but clearly does not understand diesel poo poo because he could not wrap his head around what I was trying to explain to him on the high pressure oil pump. He's a painter, the truck does not have a gooseneck hitch, I doubt he uses the truck for it's intended purpose.  Now THIS F350 belongs to a flooring contractor in town, and boy does it ever do work. They haul tons of carpet and flooring materials around with that stakebed and a trailer. Mostly for the casinos from what I gather. It came by yesterday afternoon for a continuing brake light electrical issue that we've been chasing, and also a dying brake master cylinder. I'm reasonably sure that the electrical issue is in the trailer it tows, so I'll be asking them to bring the trailer down after the master cyl is done.  This is what the shop looked like at the end of yesterday. The brothers F350. Drywall, paint, and flooring. Back to work this morning!  The morning started off with a bang.  Some mechanical convincing to free the engine.  Then very gingerly work the controls of our antique forklift to yank this tired hunk of iron out the top.      Backed it up, set it down, and chocked it up with wood so we can pull all the manifolds etc... off for transfer to the new block. MEANWHILE An 05 Ford Explorer Sport-Trac got brakes all around!  And for our next basket case, a food truck!  It's an '87 Chevy P30, and the complaint it came in with is engine hesitates under full throttle. That problem was found and fixed rather quickly. It's got a mechanical fuel pump and no in-line filter, it's been very stupidly deleted at some point. The only fuel filter it has is an itty bitty one inside the carb.  It's packed solid full of crap, and starving the engine for fuel under full throttle.  Now that we've fixed the customer complaint, lets see if we can add anything to the ticket. Pull a creeper out and slide under there for a look-see.  OH.      That's the fuel line. Yeah, I can't possibly imagine how that filter got clogged.   Engine with cover off. We found a whole ton of fun in there. Distributor vacuum advance was hooked up to the EGR, and the wiring pigtail to it was laying on the exhaust manifold. The valve cover gasket leaks oil like a sieve. Fan clutch is bad, and the radiator is puking rusty coolant all out from under the cap. I'm going to call the customer and see how far he wants us to go with this, but he spent some money on the interior, so I imagine he'll want to protect that investment with some proper mechanical love. The rust loving scares me though, the body is just barely attached to the frame at this point. He may be better off parting it out, we'll see how he feels.    He has also installed the tootiest-frutiest gay little air horn.  
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I think I have that air horn on my XJ sir  Given that that is a commercial vehicle and probably subject to DOT inspections there is no loving way I would be repairing that frame. New frame or new truck. If it was a personal/private vehicle? gently caress it, call in your best welder and have him do a bang up job of patching it. Do it right and it'll be stronger than the OEM frame was... The DOT really frowns on that however from what I understand.
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kastein posted:I think I have that air horn on my XJ sir I do have a welding inspector/instructor customer. His welds are so loving beautiful. I might give him a call or email these pictures to him for reference. I meant no disrespect to your jeep sir! Please accept these pictures of another customer's '82 CJ5 with some kind of hot rod carb on it as my apology.    It came by today to remove the customer supplied speedo head we installed a month ago for warranty exchange, as not all the lights on it are functional.
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Man $800 for a high-pressure oil pump is a pretty good deal. I think I missed what your labour rate is, but anything under $3k here for that job and I'd be laughing. Diesel costs money when it breaks, guys. You can't run a Powderstroke on a Cavalier budget, and you can't go chasing power without the bankroll to back it up when things pop. Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Mar 25, 2014 |
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Man $800 for a high-pressure oil pump is a pretty good deal. I think I missed what your labour rate is, but anything under $3k here for that job and I'd be laughing. We're $100/hr and I have a line on affordable diesel parts. Total estimate for that job included new hpop, updated tube design, pressure regulator, and pressure sensor, came to $2500. That includes a generous markup on parts to pad my margin, too. I invite him to shop around, he'll not find that quote at any diesel specialist shop in town.
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Let me put it this way: diesel shops here ask for double that to control demand. You guys are good. Keep being good 
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DrPain posted:We're $100/hr and I have a line on affordable diesel parts. Total estimate for that job included new hpop, updated tube design, pressure regulator, and pressure sensor, came to $2500. That includes a generous markup on parts to pad my margin, too. I invite him to shop around, he'll not find that quote at any diesel specialist shop in town. I'd bet you just gave him the best offer in town.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Let me put it this way: diesel shops here ask for double that to control demand.  That means a lot. Thanks! CommieGIR posted:I'd bet you just gave him the best offer in town. From the way he reacted to my quote on the phone, I suspect they will find some rear end in a top hat backyard mechanic who will attempt the repair on the cheap and gently caress it all up, then they'll call me angry that they did what we said and it didn't fix anything. People are so funny. When we first spoke he also inquired about doing an EGR cooler delete/upgrade. We've installed the bulletproof EGR cooler upgrade kit in the past, but they are not cheap nor easy. On his truck he'd be looking at about $6-7k installed, and he didn't bat an eye at that number, but when he needs to spend $2500 to get the loving thing running right he squealed like a stuck pig. 
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Mar 25, 2014 23:20
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DrPain posted:People are so funny. When we first spoke he also inquired about doing an EGR delete/upgrade. We've installed the bulletproof EGR upgrade kit in the past, but they are not cheap nor easy. On his truck he'd be looking at about $6-7k installed, and he didn't bat an eye at that number, but when he needs to spend $2500 to get the loving thing running right he squealed like a stuck pig. Doesn't seem odd to me. He had money when he did the EGR delete/upgrade, and now he doesn't.
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ratbert90 posted:Doesn't seem odd to me. He had money when he did the EGR delete/upgrade, and now he doesn't. You misunderstand. He hasn't done the delete/upgrade yet, and I gave him that price last week as a quote.
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well you can't brag to your bros about that sweet OEM high-pressure oil pump you just replaced. You should give him a quote for $500 more to install a custom bro oil pump and throw on a pair of chrome truck nuts in to seal the deal.
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DrPain posted:You misunderstand. He hasn't done the delete/upgrade yet, and I gave him that price last week as a quote. Ok yeah what Huggable Bear King said then.
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DrPain posted:From the way he reacted to my quote on the phone, I suspect they will find some rear end in a top hat backyard mechanic who will attempt the repair on the cheap and gently caress it all up, then they'll call me angry that they did what we said and it didn't fix anything. This pisses me off to no end, diesels have to be super precise to run right, as someone who has rebuilt injectors, injection pumps, and diesel motors by hand, they have to be specially treated versus a petrol motor. He is going to REALLY regret going to a shadetree mechanic for that repair...
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DrPain posted:We've installed the bulletproof EGR cooler upgrade kit in the past, but they are not cheap nor easy. On his truck he'd be looking at about $6-7k installed, and he didn't bat an eye at that number, but when he needs to spend $2500 to get the loving thing running right he squealed like a stuck pig.
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Mar 25, 2014 23:52
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I think the engine drat near has to come out. The 6.0 is a rolling mistake. When it's rolling.
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InitialDave posted:Holy poo poo, how much? For an EGR cooler? Am I missing something here? It's buried under the intake manifold and the turbocharger (which is in the valley); the whole top half of the motor has to be disassembled to access it. There's a reason they call it the 6.oh no. E: My old boss had a -250 with the 6.4, which was only marginally better. EGR cooler issues, thermostat issues, radiator issues, and that motor has twin turbos.
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InitialDave posted:Holy poo poo, how much? For an EGR cooler? Am I missing something here? Diesel poo poo is mondo expensive dude, I don't know what else to say. The last one we did was 23 hours of labor and we listed the cooler upgrade kit for $3500, so uh, yeah?
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Yeah. Variable geometry turbo for an average modern crdi car here is usually around $2000. High pressure pump the same. Injectors anywhere between $600-1000 each.
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DrPain posted:Diesel poo poo is mondo expensive dude, I don't know what else to say. I'm not saying you're overcharging or anything, it's just that the idea of that kind of level of expenditure being apparently on the verge of necessity to prevent your engine eating itself makes me go  . Why on earth would anyone buy a truck like that out of warranty?
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InitialDave posted:Don't know what the market's like in the US or what an equivalent engine would be in the UK, but $6-7k here is "rebuilt TDV8 in a modern Range Rover" territory. Nevada's emission laws prohibit engine swaps that are not considered an 'upgrade', and your definition of upgrade is always different than what the state considers an upgrade. In addition to that, the engine you're swapping in must have also been available as a factory option. You can buy these 6.0L diesel trucks very cheaply, so many people get into them not realizing how deep the rabbit hole goes. The last EGR upgrade kit we installed was on another contractors F450 with a crane, air compressor, and utility bed mounted on it, so that's where the value of that truck resided.
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InitialDave posted:Don't know what the market's like in the US or what an equivalent engine would be in the UK, but $6-7k here is "rebuilt TDV8 in a modern Range Rover" territory. Becuase the kind of guy that SHOULD be buying this truck uses it to make money, in ways smaller trucks can't. Guys that plow more than tiny driveways, guys that haul, guys that carry a lot of heavy equipment/loads regularly. The painter probably just wanted a big truck when an F150/ranger/transit connect would've worked just fine, and now he's got to pay to play.
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InitialDave posted:Holy poo poo, how much? For an EGR cooler? Am I missing something here? I did my own EGR/oilcooler stuff in the 07 I owned. took about a day because a month prior I did em on a E350 van. Yeah gently caress ever cracking a 6.0 open ever again. The 6.0 requires car-esque oil change intervals. you canfuckingnot change it like its a 12valve cummins or some other genset-ish engine. Doublefuck NV and their retarded rear end emissions laws. Atleast in CA I have the option of re-powering my poo poo with a cleaner and or better engine. Here? NO gently caress YOU. But that doesnt mean I cant keep a second "emission" engine around just for testing once a year. 
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This is all you need to know about the 6.0L Powerstroke: http://www.destroked.com/
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Phone posted:This is all you need to know about the 6.0L Powerstroke: http://www.destroked.com/ The "6.0s are for Homos" is pretty classy. Sure makes me want to bro up and get a lifted F350.
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HotCanadianChick posted:The "6.0s are for Homos" is pretty classy. I didnt even see that. At any rate this homo had his powerstrokin' fun for all of 3 weeks and went to a proper diesel. A detroit 2 stroke. cause 2 strokes are better than 1 very lovely stroke.
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HotCanadianChick posted:The "6.0s are for Homos" is pretty classy. Except the point does stand: The Cummins is a better motor all around, and its not that the Ford F350/F250 is a bad frame and chassis, its that its motor was exessively complicated and not maintenance friendly at all. I mean, they largely fixed the issues with the 7.3 Powerstroke. But please, don't bro your truck. Nobody likes a bro-truck. Brotrucks are truck abuse.
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Which I find amusing because I still see the old 7.3s running around with no issues, other than rust. Any other cool shop poo poo?
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BrokenKnucklez posted:Which I find amusing because I still see the old 7.3s running around with no issues, other than rust. Funny you should ask. We had another record set this morning. Three in fact, by the same vehicle; newest model year vehicle, most disgusting vehicle, and deferred maintenance. Ladies and Gentlemen, may I present this '12 Toyota 4Runner ~*TRAIL EDITION*~, with 96k actual miles.  You may notice the cardboard in the window. The customer states "I DRIVE ON SOME VERY, VERY ROUGH ROADS!" I believe it, given the condition of the exterior and suspension. The rear glass is loving gone and in pieces, the windshield glass up front also has some pretty spectacular cracks in it. Both struts on the front are leaking, and the rear shocks are blown out completely. CSB, I feel like you and this customer could be off-road bros. PS- buy a Toyota.  The customer informs they do not have anyone available to give them a ride home, so I offered to ride with them home and then drive the vehicle back to the shop, they were impressed. I always like to see people using these for their intended purpose, let me just hop in it it and...   What the gently caress?  The customer failed to mention they also take their 5 dogs off-roading and the entire vehicle reeks of pet dander and piss. God the loving smell. It hits you in the face as it wafts out of the vehicle, and sticks to your clothes. It's inescapable, and I will probably smell it in my nightmares. On the drive back to their home, they tried to roll up the windows and turn on the a/c!!!!  I very politely rolled my window back down, and said "It's a nice day and I want to enjoy the fresh air." But what I wanted to say was "What the gently caress is wrong with you, seriously."  After dropping them off, I drove this truck back to the shop like I stole it, time is of the essence. Every moment spent in this vehicle will forever haunt me.       The loving engine compartment is more clean than the interior.  The customer states they have owned the vehicle since new, but have been ignoring the maintenance schedule. They inform me that the last service was performed at 24k miles, and as I already mentioned, it currently has 96k miles on the clock.  There's an oil filter somewhere in this picture.   The pictures of the engine and cabin air filter don't really show the amount of disgusting poo poo packed inside them, so you'll just have to take my word.   The customer told me "Yeah, I thought about cleaning it once, but I'll be back out on the trail next weekend, so, why?"   I freely admit to bumping the poo poo out of our labor estimate for "hazardous duty pay", as the mechanic who drew the short straw called it. There is a special place in hell for the disgusting people who bring their car to a shop in this condition. DrPain fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Mar 26, 2014 |
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