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Thinking something like this in the Dome? Meh I'm under the impression fielding isn't useful unless it's A/A+.
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# ? Mar 29, 2014 21:10 |
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Capt Murphy posted:Thinking something like this in the Dome? Meh I'm under the impression fielding isn't useful unless it's A/A+. Fielding is a mixed bag. It's hard to gauge it's effectiveness via box scores, and even stats, because all it really registers is Plus, Minus, and ++ Plays by your fielders IIRC. That being said, you more or less want good fielding in What if Sports where you'd want it in real life. C: Generally I go for a B arm or better. If I can't get that, I draft a late inning defensive replacement. 1B: This is where you can hide a masher. D is a plus here. 2B: Unless I'm getting something special here, I make at least a C+/C+ guy a necessity, and I want better. SS: The better your glove, the more value you have, in my mind. I will absolutely throw down an extra million for an A/A here. 3B: A luxury again. D/D is fine here, especially if your SS is a glove guy. More important than first if only because more hitters are right handed. LF: Should be adequate, depending on the park. I never go below C+/C+ here. CF: The SS of the outfield, you need a guy who covers ground, and does it well. Another position I will pay extra for D. RF: Stick your Cansecos and Manny Ramirezes here. I'm sure the experts can go into much better detail, and even correct me, but this is what I've found to be true, and more or less based on baseball logic.
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# ? Mar 30, 2014 08:52 |
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My Necromancer: 1992 St. Louis Cardinal Bob Tewksbury His Zombie: 1948 St. Louis Cardinal Stan Musial (Died 2013) Time to bet it all on one player! For those looking for a comprehensive list of zombies: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/baseball_deaths.php Morose, but handy.
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# ? Mar 31, 2014 11:21 |
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If I'm reading this right, the other 23 players on our roster that aren't necromancer/zombie can be from any team, 1989-present?
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# ? Mar 31, 2014 21:06 |
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How many are we waiting for here? I haven't built my team yet but I thought of a really stupid team name so I want this to get going.
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# ? Apr 2, 2014 23:31 |
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I'm still all built and ready to go
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# ? Apr 4, 2014 21:11 |
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Devo posted:How many are we waiting for here? I haven't built my team yet but I thought of a really stupid team name so I want this to get going. I've been trying to wrangle up some people for the last few spots but preparing to move this weekend has taken up way too much of my time. Things will settle down for me after the weekend, though. Moving two times in three months: fun.
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# ? Apr 4, 2014 23:12 |
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Devo posted:How many are we waiting for here? I haven't built my team yet but I thought of a really stupid team name so I want this to get going. I just got home from surgery, so I should have my team built here in the next few days.
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 18:01 |
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EvilBeard posted:I just got home from surgery, so I should have my team built here in the next few days. Wishing you the best of luck, dude.
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# ? Apr 6, 2014 18:06 |
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Hey gang, I'm alive. I'm hopefully done with all the craziness of new jobs and moving and all that fun bullshit so now I can try and get some wheels on the ground here. I've posted in N/V to see if anybody new wants to join in and sent out some feelers to some past owners, hopefully we can get things rolling here shortly.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 01:09 |
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Sure, I will play. Gotta be easier than the super league...
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 02:13 |
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So...what do I need to know about team building in WiS vs. Baseball Mogul?
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 02:23 |
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The biggest difference is that where you look at a guy's career arc in bbm, individual seasons are what really matter in wis. Howard Johnson was kind of a mediocre player, but his 1989 season in wis provides a ton of value relative to his cost. Players like this are called cookies because just about every non-gimmick open league team has the same cookie-cutter rosters. Still, there's a reason everybody uses them: they're unnoticed in the sim. One other bit of advice, decide on what kind of team you're going to have (doubles, dingers, triples, steals) and then construct your lineup, pitching staff, and choose your park based on that. Wis lets you specialize a lot easier than bbm does, and if you don't have a specialized team you'll be at a disadvantage. When I get home and I'm not phone posting I'll be happy to go more in depth but those are some basic thoughts.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 02:40 |
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Thanks. So rick ankiel 2000 would be viable, then? Or that one ridiculous Brady Anderson year? Can a player play out of position if they know how later or earlier in their career? Like, could 2014 joe mauer catch even though he won't have an inning behind the plate this year? FairGame fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Apr 18, 2014 |
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'96 Brady is pretty good but he's also very expensive because his defense pumps up his price, without actually being *that* good defensively. 2000 Ankiel is kind of viable at a lower cap. This league would not be low enough of a cap.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 02:52 |
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FairGame posted:Thanks. Well, it's all about value relative to cost. All the players are era-normalized, as well, and the normalization isn't perfect. Players in an extreme era (say, the pitching heavy 60s or dinger heavy late 90s) tend to normalize badly. Looking at a player's performance history is definitely going to be your friend. But in general, yeah, the philosophy is sound. For example, 1979 Dave Kingman is one of my absolute favorite players to use on any dingers team I have. I can stick him at first where he'll be a butcher, but he gets on base at an acceptably bad clip and he'll hit 40 bombs in a home run park easy. I think I had one team where I got him up to like 75 homers in Atlanta Fulton County. And he is dirt cheap, which frees up more money to spend on an elite player at a more demanding position.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 03:00 |
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New blood be damned, I'm in
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 03:03 |
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the most important thing is to set advance search
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 03:30 |
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I won't let this die; let me in
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 04:53 |
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I didn't think I'd get back from my extended trip before this filled up. How convenient for me!
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 07:11 |
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I'm so rusty on regular sim leagues with AAA that I don't actually know if this is viable or not. It's basically built around good defense, seeing a ton of pitches, and letting Sir Barrold hit dingers. Oh yeah and double zombie because I can. I present: Yer a wizard, Barry! (first draft)
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 07:20 |
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I'm trying to play around with the 10-game season free thing to get a sense of things. Are not all players available? I'm searching for a player by last name, but it's giving me random seasons by that player--and not the one that I want.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 14:51 |
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FairGame posted:I'm trying to play around with the 10-game season free thing to get a sense of things. Who are you looking for? Everyone from 1886-2013 with at least 50 PA or 25 IP should be available.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 15:08 |
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Devo posted:Who are you looking for? Everyone from 1886-2013 with at least 50 PA or 25 IP should be available. 1993 Gregg Jefferies, who I was eventually able to find using the 1993 Cardinals as a filter. Then I didn't bother with him because I thought he'd be cheaper than a legitimately good 1b.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 15:14 |
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Sometimes you need to set "min games at position" to 0 in order to see them if they were the type of player who moved around the field and didn't have many PA in a particular season. E: this is not the case for Jefferies, but will have you pulling your hair out on other players at times.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 15:15 |
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Yeah the '93 version shows up at the top of my list when using my generic S25 search and sorting by OBP# He seems pretty drat expensive for what he does though.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 15:20 |
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He's expensive but 93 Jefferies is actually one of the most notorious open league/ToC cookies Check out all those uses in his performance history
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 15:56 |
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With all those singles and that speed I can see why, but man that's a lot of $/PA for someone who doesn't mash.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 15:59 |
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Is there a good source for historical park factors? I can see single seasons on ESPN, but I figure a single seasons isn't an adequate sample size. If it helps, I want to surpress the poo poo out of dingers and have a good quality infield for top-notch defensive infielders. My outfielders don't have much in the way of range. I have not selected a zombie/necromancer pairing yet, so any ballpark is fair game.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 16:47 |
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In the sim, OF range is enormously valuable. A set of 3 extremely good ranged outfielders can save you over 100 hits in a season (many of those being doubles or triples). Infield defense has comparatively less value. Especially 1B.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 16:49 |
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FairGame posted:Is there a good source for historical park factors? Here's how every park in the game plays http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb-l/ballparks.asp?lid=1 toadee posted:In the sim, OF range is enormously valuable. A set of 3 extremely good ranged outfielders can save you over 100 hits in a season (many of those being doubles or triples). Infield defense has comparatively less value. Especially 1B. You can skimp much more in the corners, however. An A+ range guy in RF isn't going to net you much more than a B+ range guy. CF it's an enormous difference, though.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 17:01 |
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I actually haven't seen much difference between LF and CF. RF yes, in fact I have a script that swaps corner OF depending on the lineup of the opposing team Im set to play, but even if you just go with 'most people are pull righties', then the LF will generall see 20-30 + plays while my CF would see like 30-40. RF would be down into the teens and it's less important for sure.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 17:03 |
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Obviously there's not much data here, but just as a quick and dirty look, here are the top ten LFers from the most recent Rule V leg, their range and their + play output. Everyone here had between 1,380 and 1,450 innings played.code:
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 17:16 |
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Who was that Phillies team playing in CF that they shoved Dykstra in left?
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 17:52 |
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Devo posted:Who was that Phillies team playing in CF that they shoved Dykstra in left? 76 Garry Maddox, who is as good as Dykstra. Naturally he also drafted 87 Eric Davis, the best of the bunch, and stuck him in RF, sooooo
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 18:12 |
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Is there any advantage to having leftover money, or should we aim to hit as close to 95mm as possible?
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 18:34 |
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AlleyViper posted:76 Garry Maddox, who is as good as Dykstra. No Abreu Phillies make me sad
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AlleyViper posted:Obviously there's not much data here, but just as a quick and dirty look, here are the top ten LFers from the most recent Rule V leg, their range and their + play output. Everyone here had between 1,380 and 1,450 innings played. Hell yeah that's my Giambi.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 19:27 |
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Think I'm going to go with some variation of this: Drysdale as the zombie and Kershaw as the necro. Not sure I like the offense in Dodger Stadium, though.
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# ? Apr 18, 2014 23:48 |
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FairGame posted:Is there any advantage to having leftover money, or should we aim to hit as close to 95mm as possible? No, you should maximize every dollar you can.
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