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LSTB
Nov 13, 2000



its still borecraft

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Give Pat a Job
Apr 8, 2003

Everything is for the best in this best of all possible worlds.


MMOs all age terribly so I would say no.

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

'nuff said.



this was the only time period I played wow. i thought it was pretty cool at the time but id never play it again now.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

You are all DOOMED

Awesome! posted:

this was the only time period I played wow. i thought it was pretty cool at the time but id never play it again now.
i have fun playing wow sometimes the trick is to just zone out and click poo poo

if you start obsessing over the game it gets boring real fast

Tipps
Apr 18, 2006


party in the front

business in the back


Burning Crusade was the sweet spot in terms of gating content with atunements and skill-checks.

From wotlk onwards, anyone can beat the game in a week.

Jackie D
May 27, 2009

Democracy is like a tambourine - not everyone can be trusted with it.


MMOs were always terrible but in 2006 we didn't know it yet

No Such Thing
Oct 12, 2012

self-destructive


I was always really upset when I would fly all the way out to some flying island and it was just a big blank rock without anything cool or even a booze vendor

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006
GTVA Celois

Ragnarok Online is the best MMO ever when it was 2002 and you had all the free time in the world .

All other MMOs are bad, sorry

Phimose Knight
Mar 5, 2013


Xaris posted:

Ragnarok Online is the best MMO ever when it was 2002 and you had all the free time in the world

A lot of my time was spent reading RO webcomics made with the sprites, and lots of barely-understandable pop culture references. i showed one of them to one of my south american bros from school and he was very unimpressed and called me a fucker for not playing dota with him.

SM64Guy
Apr 1, 2005



it is not

TheLovablePlutonis
Mar 25, 2011



man i remember playing ragnarok online all the time when i was 13 years old (that was 2 weeks ago)

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

pasar el rato


when i played wow back in high school i always liked the burning crusade content a whole lot. funnest gimmick items + minimal amount of very dumb questionable choices by developers like the dumb vehicles and lovely zoning crap that always 100% just got in the way of having what little fun you can have playing an mmo

i played rift with a couple buddies a year or so ago and it reminded of bc a little bit. mmos are garbage but rift is pretty cool and its free so i guess if you wanna play an mmo play rift

Doctor Goat
Jan 21, 2005

Are stitches trendy now?


until last year i'd install ragnarok online and play it for a month like some sort of regressing addict

i never, ever maxed a character out and spent most of my time hunting for glitches on cool private servers and doing dumb poo poo

i'm directly responsible for one of the biggest servers around getting a full item wipe a couple of years ago, I found a dupe for an extremely rare item and another goon used a bot to do it thousands of times and gave them out in the newbie area

edit: i bought guild wars 2 when i was having a manic episode a while back and i have played it once

Phimose Knight
Mar 5, 2013


Hog Butcher posted:

until last year i'd install ragnarok online and play it for a month like some sort of regressing addict

i never, ever maxed a character out and spent most of my time hunting for dumb poo poo

same. SAME.

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

Entropy comin'


Hog Butcher posted:

i'm directly responsible for one of the biggest servers around getting a full item wipe a couple of years ago, I found a dupe for an extremely rare item and another goon used a bot to do it thousands of times and gave them out in the newbie area

yeah and herc is directly responsible for putting marlo behind bars

Nanami Madobe
May 23, 2008

I love animal porn! So F* you if you don't accept that!


LSTB posted:

its still borecraft

Agreed. I didn't like Classic WoW back in the day and I didn't like Burning Crusade when it came out.

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

I find myself strangely drawn to this odd configuration of activity.



nagrand was a really cool zone

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

I find myself strangely drawn to this odd configuration of activity.



also tbc had music by matt ulemen so it was real cool and atmospheric

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

I find myself strangely drawn to this odd configuration of activity.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yFiU5Ctr6g

yiss

Anime Device
Sep 11, 2009


Silver Alicorn posted:

nagrand was a really cool zone

To this very day it's a very beautiful zone. Lush and green and full of life with an amazing back story to tell. Clearly the devs knew what they were doing with Nagrand because it made Alliance forfeit their allegiance, and faction change to the Horde (the Blood Elves helped too). Who didn't like the whole Thrall lore? I mean, c'mon! The music just fit, the tone was completely different than say Shadowmoon Valley; even though you were in Outland- a new world for the players- Nagrand felt like another world completely separated from the rest. In addition, Something Awful pressence was felt within the game when our very own Goonies Gurgthock, and Wodin became quest givers where Blizzard continues to add them in every expansion; heh, lucky bastards! It was an amazing thing to witness.

I am really excited what the Nagrand (if it's even called that) will look like in World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor. I only hope it is just as awe-inspiring when I first step into Nagrand in The Burning Crusade.

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

'nuff said.



i always liked zangarmarsh the best

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Aw, son of a bitch!

i never got into WoW because it was just a stupid grind that people with full-time jobs don't have the patience for. i'm told it's less grindy now but haha no.

Judge Clayjar
Aug 5, 2007



world of Warcraft hasn't been the same since websites started accurately documenting it

A Yolo Wizard
Nov 17, 2006

yes, certainly


Tipps posted:

Burning Crusade was the sweet spot in terms of gating content with atunements and skill-checks.

From wotlk onwards, anyone can beat the game in a week.

serpentshrine cavern

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

I find myself strangely drawn to this odd configuration of activity.



I never got to do any of the raids in tbc

Dongslayer.
May 25, 2009

We don't need Rome telling us what to do.


the skybox was really cool to see after being in the vanilla game for so long

Jaur
Jun 5, 2005

uguu~

as a 12 year old DAoC was the best mmorpg

thuly
Jun 19, 2005

Transcending history, and the world, a tale of MS Paint and animes, endlessly retold.


BC was cool compared to vanilla but I always come back to the fact that it was the people I played with and not the content itself that really made it great.

Somebody else said proper documentation and yeah, I agree with that. I was a sophomore and had a lot of time to spend looking up math and items and just sperging out about the game, but wowhead coming into its own around the release of burning crusade meant that everyone could see what bosses dropped what and how certain game systems worked, simply because it had a way more streamlined interface than thottbot and allakhazam.

If I had had to explain all the basic poo poo to the people I played with I probably would of liked them a lot less. So really I guess BC was alright but wowhead and tankspot made it awesome.

Dongslayer.
May 25, 2009

We don't need Rome telling us what to do.


Jaur posted:

DAoC was the best mmorpg

Jaur
Jun 5, 2005

uguu~


i'm really close to agreeing with this but asheron's call back when people played it was really awesome as well, the fact that the devs would play major storyline characters and romped around murdering people was very cool. tough call for me

Sir John Feelgood
Nov 18, 2009



With the burning crusade, we got the most brilliant vision of villainy since shakeapeares iago or miltons satan: Metzen's ill dan.

The Walking Dad
Dec 31, 2012


Lol I totally forgot that Wodin and Gurg were made into quest givers. Don't really give a gently caress about WoW anymore but raiding with EJ was fun as hell and I made some friends for life.

Brain In A Jar
Apr 20, 2008



Burning Crusade was the best MMO on the market when you had a shattered ankle and literally couldn't move beyond a few metres to piss or poo poo and had nothing better to do for weeks upon end

how normal people played that POS I have no idea

The Walking Dad
Dec 31, 2012


Brain In A Jar posted:

Burning Crusade was the best MMO on the market when you had a shattered ankle and literally couldn't move beyond a few metres to piss or poo poo and had nothing better to do for weeks upon end

how normal people played that POS I have no idea

I would love to see some data on MMO subscription numbers and unemployment.

Around 2008 it was hard as gently caress for anyone without a job to get a job and just as hard to keep a job if you had one for a lot of people. Unemployment checks lasted like a year and a half. It was a good time to play some MMOs.

I enjoyed pre-burning crusade. Karazhan was pretty sweet no doubt, but in vanilla you could do a lot of drunken idiotic poo poo. 20 man clusterfuck raids in Scholomance back when getting blue gear was all the rage or solo farming BRD to get that mace so you could pop a paladin bubble on the flag carrier in warsong gulch and force them to drop the flag.

Vanilla was so janky. Crashing the server in Azshara or better yet training that giant demon man into Stormwind to gently caress with the alliance. World PVP was much more of a thing even though it was ultimately pointless it was still fun to dick over people. Goons were pretty amazing and being assholes and it was the best.

We used to do those Menethil harbor raids where we would hold out for hours and hours as wave after wave of Alliance would try to kill us. Good times.

Brain In A Jar
Apr 20, 2008



The Walking Dad posted:

I would love to see some data on MMO subscription numbers and unemployment.

Around 2008 it was hard as gently caress for anyone without a job to get a job and just as hard to keep a job if you had one for a lot of people. Unemployment checks lasted like a year and a half. It was a good time to play some MMOs.

A cool thing about MMOs is that my personal experiences of raiding drunk with nerds from around the world are forever unattainable to me now that I have an adult job and a real person life and as such are forever an artifact of whatever year it was in my own personal life that I was playing MMOs and had the 'spare' time to appreciate worthlessly hammering buttons over and over to compensate for a guild member who was likely AFK, vomiting in a toilet

Brain In A Jar
Apr 20, 2008



My breaking point for giving up World of Warcraft was when hitting the button for Sinister Strike literally broke the '2' key on my old laptop

Tipps
Apr 18, 2006


party in the front

business in the back



Counterpoint: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGmIWA7LADk

Judge Clayjar
Aug 5, 2007



thuly posted:

BC was cool compared to vanilla but I always come back to the fact that it was the people I played with and not the content itself that really made it great.

Somebody else said proper documentation and yeah, I agree with that. I was a sophomore and had a lot of time to spend looking up math and items and just sperging out about the game, but wowhead coming into its own around the release of burning crusade meant that everyone could see what bosses dropped what and how certain game systems worked, simply because it had a way more streamlined interface than thottbot and allakhazam.

If I had had to explain all the basic poo poo to the people I played with I probably would of liked them a lot less. So really I guess BC was alright but wowhead and tankspot made it awesome.

no stupid, i meant documentation was a bad thing

Locker Room Zubaz
Aug 8, 2006


~*~THE SECRET OF THE MAGICAL CRYSTALS IS THAT I'M FUCKING TERRIBLE~*~




anyone who remembers TBC fondly is forgeting the attunement chains to do any raid besides karazhan(which did own quite a bit) when they were new content. It made making alts impossible, it made raid groups have to carry new members through unfun heroic dungeons to get keyed. UGH gently caress attunement chains. Also loving Hyjal is tied with the deathwing raid for worst raids to ever be released in wow.

TBC did a lot of good things like make druids and paladins viable tanks and attempt at making a lot of the garbage specs from vanilla viable but it still had specs that were just dead weight. It also had badass legendaries, although the sunwell one was kinda silly since very few hunters would have been in that content since sunwell was so loving hard and it was min/max hell.

Wrath was better, more streamlined, and just more fun. it also added 10man raiding for all raids which was awesome as hell. Like ulduar was the best poo poo ever, it had unique hardmodes and was cool as heck. Inscription was cool too and let you change how some spells worked. Again it had cool as gently caress legendaries, Valynyr and Shadowmourne were both so very cool.

Cata was a mess, added in no good systems besides 10man raiding being the same as 25man. Reforging was a shitpile fix to making hitcapping easy but blizzard was stupid and didn't realize the real problem layed in Hit being a completely unfun stat that was just required to be useful in raids. It also had the 2 dumbest legendaries, an incredibly overpowered staff that if you raided 10mans took the entire length of Firelands being current to get a single one of, and a weapon for a single class... It wasn't even BiS in a lot of situations. only good thing they did was attempt at making every spec viable and they did a pretty decent job.

MoP i didn't play nearly enough to give educated opinions on but i didn't like pandaria much, the raids were fun, and the talent revamp was a good thing. Flex raiding is a good idea because it means you don't have to dedicated the same amount of time every week for your raid group, you can just join in if you aren't dead weight and the content will scale for you. LFR is a bad thing that feels necessary which is stupid.

WoD looks like they learned from all their mistakes and might make a decent game its just too bad that they gave up on making 10 and 25man content equally difficult and are going to 20man being the only way to do hardmode raiding.

eww i posted a lot

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Locker Room Zubaz
Aug 8, 2006


~*~THE SECRET OF THE MAGICAL CRYSTALS IS THAT I'M FUCKING TERRIBLE~*~




scary ghost dog posted:

no stupid, i meant documentation was a bad thing

the release of information about every boss drop and ability really ruined a lot of the mystique of the game. IDK how you go about fixing it

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