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Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

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RBA Starblade posted:

It's a pretty decent movie and worth watching, unlike the first which isn't.

Except for the guy cast as Mephistopheles looking like Robert De Niro had a stroke instead of the guy they had the first time around.

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Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!

Xealot posted:

Or reverse engineer Erskine's serum

In-movie-universe, that's how we ended up with Blonsky's Abomination in the Ed Norton Hulk movie.

Abomination is what you get when you mix Captain America with the Hulk.

Some Pinko Commie fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Apr 29, 2014

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

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SuperMechagodzilla posted:

That's exactly it.

Superman is obviously linked by the sun imagery - the hammer was "forged in the heart of a dying star," just as Superman comes from a planet with a dying red sun.

I've written in other threads that Asgard is essentially a Krypton that hasn't destroyed itself yet - the hammer survives from some other system's star. Unlike Superman, then, Thor never 'learned his lesson'. Superman is fighting to prevent Krypton's fate from happening to Earth, while Thor would guide Earth into becoming like Asgard.

In Avengers specifically, Asgard serves as a vision of Earth's ideal future - ideal in terms of Marvel's ideological universe. That's why they're given control of the cube (keeping it away from Hydra!) for the happy ending.

As for what makes Odin worthy of all this power, I have no idea. Man Of Steel is relentlessly critical of this gold-costumed aristocracy. By making Captain America and Superman into champions of Asgard, though, it implies that Asgard is the culmination of their ideals too. But since when does Captain America fight for a monarchy? It's blatant appropriation of their revolutionary imagery.

You might be happy to learn that in most current continuities Asgard has also been destroyed, and Thor (who has replaced Odin as the All-Father) basically has a small portion of it relocating around Earth looking for a suitable place to call home.

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