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Favorite Shane Douglas Promotion
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XPW 11 18.97%
Hardcore Homecoming 1 1.72%
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This New One (because it won't happen) 44 75.86%
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MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
"Hmm, I should probably make a new thread before WM weekend, it's kind of a big thing... Oh lookie here, an IM from HulkaMatt!"

No Dragon Gate Talent at WM Weekend DGUSA Shows

Gabe's Facebook posted:

We apologize, but it looks like there will not be Dragon Gate talent on the shows next weekend. This has been an ongoing situation for a while. It is not between us and Dragoon Gate. Our relationship remains strong and DGUSA will continue and will feature Dragon Gate talent in the future. This has been a daily thing where every day we think something was about to break. Now the clock has run out. We owe you a complete explanation and will have that on Monday.

In the meantime, we know you only care about two things- what the lineups are going to be and how we will make this up to you. We took the first step as a precaution by booking Masato Tanaka to face Chris Hero on the Friday night DGUSA show. We need to thank Highspots for making this possible. We are now finalizing the rest. We will have word to you on Monday.

I personally apologize and am very embarrassed by this entire situation. As an organization, we deeply apologize. The bottom line is that we will rebound and we will have amazing shows in New Orleans with a talented, exciting and dynamic roster. We will give you a great experience and present events that you will always remember fondly.

We appreciate and value your patience. We would have said more earlier, but this is something where we literally thought there would be a resolution and announcement on a daily basis. I realize this is not a suitable explanation for some of you and will accept the criticism and try to make it right. It is the best we can do right at this moment.

We'll give you the entire story on Monday when we have everything situated. I will be around for all your questions and comments on Twitter and here on Facebook after we release the lineups and explain what happened. Thank you for all your support and we will make this right on the biggest weekend of the year.

This seems super duper shady after there was no talent on the last DGUSA shows too.

There are several other shows being put on by WWNLive that weekend including EVOLVE, Kaiju and SHIMMER, you can find more info here:

http://wwnlive.com/

Elsewhere that weekend:



Sting to appear in front of more than 300 people.

The full schedule of events can be found here:

http://www.wrestlecon.com/program/


In more important news...


quote:


TRAPPED IN THE CLOSET
April 19, 2014 – Heirloom Arts Theatre, 155 Main St., Danbury, CT

CURRENT CARD:
Inter Species Championship – PICK YOUR POISON: Izzie Deadyet (Champion) vs. Drew Gulak (Selected by Buxx Belmar)
Undisputed King of Crazy Championship: Pinkie Sanchez (Champion) vs. Chris Dickinson
Inter Species Wrestling Tag Team Championship: The Food Fighters of Pasquale and Bastian Snow (Champions) vs. Ninjas with Altitude of Kitsune and Shynron
PICK YOUR POISON: Buxx Belmar vs. “Bulldozer” Matt Tremont (Selected by Izzie Deadyet)
Lloyd Cthulowitz vs. Gran Akuma
Also Appearing: Tabarnak de Team (Thomas Dubois and Mathieu St. Jacques), JAKA, Glaad Badd, Craigslist Homo, Tremendous Investigations Inc. (Dan Barry & Bill Carr) and more!

This is once again on the same night as a UFC show, but it's a not so great one so I'm going to go to ISW even though they've declared they are selling out and plan to feature something called "good wrestling." What is up with that poo poo?

Their more violent cousin is back too:



Then there is BEYOND WRESTLING a group I keep swearing I will go to since it is based in Providence but I end up not. Hopefully this changes in May!

Visit their site for more information: http://lookmanofans.com/

They won't be running Providence in April, but CZW will?

quote:

CZW makes its long-awaited debut in Providence, Rhode Island at Fête Music on Sunday, April 27th! CZW tickets available online now or pick them up at the door before the show. This event will only be filmed for DVD and will NOT be broadcast on CZWiPPV.com! Already announced for CZW's 'To Infinity'...

CZW World Heavyweight Championship
The Campaigns's Drew Gulak (c) v. The Front's Biff Busick

Grudge Match
NOI's Danny Havoc v. 'Bulldozer' Matt Tremont

Singles Rematch
'Ultraviolent Beast' Masada v. 'Dirty Daddy' Chris Dickinson

WSU Attraction Match
The Campaign's Kimber Lee v. WSU's Alexxis



Have any photos of this:



appeared yet? Their site hasn't been updated (but it is hilarious!) http://www.dscw.org/#!dscw_photos/ca4p

PWG presented MYSTERY VORTEX II last night and since people are all amped up about spoilers, here's the card without any results:

quote:

Andrew Everett vs. Cedric Alexander vs. Trevor Lee
Peter Avalon and RockNES vs. Joey Ryan, B Boy, and Willie Mack
Roderick Strong vs. Tony Nese
Unbreakable F'n Machines vs. African American Wolves vs. Inner City Machine Guns
Tomasso Ciampa vs. Chris Hero
Johnny Gargano vs. Kyle O'Reilly
Young Bucks vs. Best Friends for the tag titles
Adam Cole vs. Candace LaRae for the title

Finally, SHANE DOUGLAS IS BACK

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NEW TV PROMOTION BASED OUT OF LAS VEGAS IN PLANNING STAGES, FULL DETAILS

By Mike Johnson on 2014-03-26 15:43:37

A new wrestling promotion titled The Classic Wrestling Federation has been contacting potential talent over the last several weeks, seeking to sign them to letters of intent that the talents would be interested in working for the promotion if and when it launches.

According to material given to the talents, the CWF promotion's plan is to partner with a Las Vegas casino and run wrestling events up to six days a week for the purpose of producing 36-44 hours of original TV episodes.

The letter of intent notes, "The purpose of the CWF project is to return to American culture the classic sport of wrestling as made popular by the likes of Bruno Samartino, George Steele, Triple H, Andre the Giant, Baron Von Raschke."

Shane Douglas and Cody Michaels have been providing the letters to several talents PWInsider.com has spoken with. Multiple messages have been left for Michaels in the last week.

The letter of intent also notes that the promotion would "may expand" to running live arena events "with an initial focus" on Pennsylvania, and the surrounding region.

The letter of intent also notes that the promotion, "intends to set base pay for our wrestler athletes and on‐air talent higher than current alternatives, to offer health insurance benefits or stipends, a 401k retirement plan and other benefits, and to create a profit‐sharing plan where all athletes share in the success of the company. In addition, CWF intends to make a percentage of television revenue available to retiring wrestlers in the form of a companyoperated pension plan."

The letter of intent notes that it is "non-binding" in that the wrestler signing it can choose not to work for the company when it launches and that signing it was not a guarantee of a position within the company.

Wrestlers were not given a timetable for the potential launch of the promotion.

The release promises to bring wrestling back to what it was which is code for it won't and will suck/probably never get off the ground.

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Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

THE END


Oh cool a match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ17RUsOeTA

STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

that looks terrifying to wrestle in

NotQuiteQuentin
Jan 29, 2005

BIG OVER
College Slice
I don't know if it's a credit to Gabe for him not pull the carny route with Ricochet and bill him as the fly-in since he's nearly full time with Dragon Gate now. Incredibly depressing considering the cards from last year and the year before last at Wrestlemania. Makes me really glad that I caught them live in Miami a few years back.

STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

one hundred american dollars for front row

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008
holy poo poo with that little space between the top ring and the bottom ring, why even do that??

Beautiful Ninja
Mar 26, 2009

Five time FCW Champion...of my heart.

KungFu Grip posted:

holy poo poo with that little space between the top ring and the bottom ring, why even do that??

I will call that little space the Vertebreaker.

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

Has CZW ever put out a thoroughly watchable show? Genuinely curious.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

NienNunb posted:

Has CZW ever put out a thoroughly watchable show? Genuinely curious.

Recently the shows have been said to be mostly good. Even in the Zandig days there were times when they put on good shows purely due to having good talent for a change.

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


I'm confused. The OP mentions Sting appearing in front of less than 300 people, but this is not the TNA thread...

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Great White Hope posted:

I'm confused. The OP mentions Sting appearing in front of less than 300 people, but this is not the TNA thread...

You should try reading it again.

Bard Maddox
Feb 15, 2012

I'm just a sick guy, I'm really just a dirty guy.


Border City Wrestling in Windsor is running with New Japan guys (and Booker T, but who fuckin cares) on May 9, the night before the RoH show in Toronto. Also: Kongo Kong!

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Bard Maddox posted:



Border City Wrestling in Windsor is running with New Japan guys (and Booker T, but who fuckin cares) on May 9, the night before the RoH show in Toronto. Also: Kongo Kong!

poo poo, I knew I forgot something. I got distracted by the TOWER OF DOOM and Gabe news.

Edit: Thinking about the DGUSA situation, it's interesting there is no mention of refunds in Gabe's post. I wouldn't offer refunds this second either, but there should at least be an offer of refunds after the card is rebooked. "Card Subject to Change" doesn't mean you don't have to offer when all of your main draws are pulled off the card.

MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Mar 30, 2014

Bard Maddox
Feb 15, 2012

I'm just a sick guy, I'm really just a dirty guy.

MassRafTer posted:

poo poo, I knew I forgot something. I got distracted by the TOWER OF DOOM and Gabe news.

It's interesting there is no mention of refunds in his post. I wouldn't offer refunds this second either, but there should at least be an offer of refunds after the card is rebooked. "Card Subject to Change" doesn't mean you don't have to offer when all of your main draws are pulled off the card.

Yeah, I know there's a chance that everything might get shot to hell and people might get shuffled off since it's a small indie in Canada and they have bigger things to do, but from what I've heard they're generally good for things like that. I'm cautiously optimistic, since it's right across the river and as close as I'll ever get to see NJPW guys in person!

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Bard Maddox posted:

Yeah, I know there's a chance that everything might get shot to hell and people might get shuffled off since it's a small indie in Canada and they have bigger things to do, but from what I've heard they're generally good for things like that. I'm cautiously optimistic, since it's right across the river and as close as I'll ever get to see NJPW guys in person!

Whoops, I meant to quote Gabe's post again after, that wasn't in reference to yours! I don't think BCW will gently caress anyone, I got to thinking about the DGUSA shows and didn't make that cleat at all.

OmegaBR
Feb 14, 2012

Come to me .... and live forever.
WrestleCon kinda fizzled out, didn't it?

I mean, I'm sure it'll be fun for those in New Orleans, but it doesn't quite have the hype it did last year. Indy wrestling in general doesn't seem to.

Thauros
Jan 29, 2003

OmegaBR posted:

WrestleCon kinda fizzled out, didn't it?

I mean, I'm sure it'll be fun for those in New Orleans, but it doesn't quite have the hype it did last year. Indy wrestling in general doesn't seem to.

Yeah, there's still lots of stuff I'd see live if more feds than ROH and Extreme Rising ran Pittsburgh, but I personally pay much less attention to the indies than I did in the previous few years since getting back into wrestling. PWG still puts out great stuff but I don't even get their shows with nearly as much regularity as I used to since so much more of the time and money I waste on wrestling now goes to NJPW.

Thauros fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Mar 30, 2014

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

There's some pretty pissed off fans who are already pointing out that at the moment it looks like they're going to be paying double the regular price for essentially two extra evolve shows that weekend. No wonder the release didn't mention anything about refunds.

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.
I can see why DG-USA shows are priced higher, because of the cost of flying guys in from Japan but charging double for a DG-USA show and not having any Dragon Gate draws is pretty awful, even if it isn't completely Gabe's fault he's been so petty in the past I wouldn't be surprised if something fell through because he's so stubborn.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

It probably would help if Gabe didn't do that same "there's a really good explanation for this, but I can't tell you what it is until Monday" bullshit he always does. poo poo happens, and bookings fall through, but this is the second time in a row something like this has happened, and it seems pretty carny to wait until the 11th hour to announce this stuff.

OmegaBR
Feb 14, 2012

Come to me .... and live forever.
Ah memories of reading Gabe's twitter while they frantically tried to get EVOLVE streams to work. Literally asking the whole audience "how is it now?"

BaldipISW
Mar 28, 2012
For the record, (pretty much) final ISW card for 4/19...working on a Beyond showcase tag team match and the return of Sriracha Pro for the VIP preshow. Should have announcements on both this week!

---

PICK YOUR POISON - INTER SPECIES WRESTLING CHAMPIONSHIP
Izzie Deadyet vs. Drew Gulak

PICK YOUR POISON
Buxx Belmar vs. "Bulldozer" Matt Tremont

THE UNDISPUTED KING OF CRAZY CHAMPIONSHIP
Pinkie Sanchez © vs. Chris Dickinson

INTER SPECIES WRESTLING TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP
The Food Fighters (Bastian Snow and Pasquale the Italian Chef) vs. NWA : Ninjas with Altitude (Kitsune & Shynron)

HUGE (LITERALLY) TAG TEAM MATCH
Tabarnak De Team vs. Tremendous Investigations

SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE
Lloyd Cthulowitz vs. Gran Akuma

FAMILY FEUD CONTINUES
The Badd Boys vs. The GLAAD Boys w/Rikki Glaadcliff

FIRST EVER ENCOUNTER!
Jaka vs. Jae Rukin

Plus - Bonus pre-show matches for VIP ticketholders, a half-time performance by Two Fisted Law, and more!

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BUY TICKETS NOW: http://interspecieswrestling.com/store/tickets

VIP tickets entitle the ticketholder to an earlier entry time, and two pre-show bonus matches.

Thauros
Jan 29, 2003

Is the WrestleCon show with Steen vs. Tanaka a IPPV?

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

NienNunb posted:

Has CZW ever put out a thoroughly watchable show? Genuinely curious.

The Cage of Death shows used to be the Indy equivalent of Wrestlemania - V and VI were really good cards

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Thauros posted:

Is the WrestleCon show with Steen vs. Tanaka a IPPV?

If not I'm pretty sure a DVD release comes out afterwards.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Last year's CZW show at Wrestlecon was good.

Wazzu
Feb 28, 2008

Are you sure I'm winning the Rumble? That does'nt seem right.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR0-R-c4aTI

Chuck Taylor just shared this 'best friends' tribute video. Seems like a good team, and holy poo poo I hadn't seen the Omega Driver in a while, god that's a cool move.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Wazzu posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR0-R-c4aTI

Chuck Taylor just shared this 'best friends' tribute video. Seems like a good team, and holy poo poo I hadn't seen the Omega Driver in a while, god that's a cool move.

The Omega Driver looks like just about the indie-est move this side of a super kick, but I found a Suicidal Dragon montage clip on YouTube and I think it was also called the Awful Waffle in Chikara and THAT I can get behind.

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Thauros posted:

Yeah, there's still lots of stuff I'd see live if more feds than ROH and Extreme Rising ran Pittsburgh, but I personally pay much less attention to the indies than I did in the previous few years since getting back into wrestling. PWG still puts out great stuff but I don't even get their shows with nearly as much regularity as I used to since so much more of the time and money I waste on wrestling now goes to NJPW.

Do you think less interest in the indies these days is because the BIG stars that defined the Indys from 2000-2010 are either in WWE/TNA, retired or otherwise moved on?

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

OmegaBR posted:

WrestleCon kinda fizzled out, didn't it?

I mean, I'm sure it'll be fun for those in New Orleans, but it doesn't quite have the hype it did last year. Indy wrestling in general doesn't seem to.

Yeah I know what you mean. WWE has scooped up a lot of the big name indie guys and while there's still plenty of talent out there, there aren't many guys left whose name I hear and rush to buy a show. If you're in it for workrate at least NJPW is firing on cylinders but if chikara was more your speed then we all know what happened with them

yea ok
Jul 27, 2006

BigRed0427 posted:

Do you think less interest in the indies these days is because the BIG stars that defined the Indys from 2000-2010 are either in WWE/TNA, retired or otherwise moved on?

personally danielson+nigel leaving wrecked my interest in indies for a while until i got into PWG but nowadays i just don't have time to watch and keep up with a lot of stuff

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
I was just watching the DDT4 preview video and man, Michael Elgin has really embraced the whole "bald spot + mullet" look.

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



Omega Driver isn't bad, it's just a piledriver really. There are way indy-er moves and they al involve flips.

Germansimp
May 28, 2013



weekly font posted:

Omega Driver isn't bad, it's just a piledriver really. There are way indy-er moves and they al involve flips.

Except for the Superkick of course. But then again, I haven't really watched many PWG shows in recent times, so maybe either one of the Bucks probably already has done a Triple Handspring Summersault Shooting Star Superkick in the mean time.

Dr. Baker
Jan 25, 2012

Numb me, drill me
Floss me, bill me
I went to the Mystery Vortex show. It was alright. Drake and Steen having to drop out clearly messed up what they had planned. Best Friends vs. Young Bucks was the best match on the card and holy poo poo that opening triple threat match was awesome.

Who the hell is Trevor Reed?

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



Dragon Gate guys had visa problems.
The replacements are not great.

Friday:
Tanaka vs. Hero
Low Ki vs. Baretta

Saturday:
Low Ki vs. Gargano(c)
Kaz/Daniels vs. ??? (Dark main. Not on iPPV or DVD)

Gabe has not offered refunds.

quote:

We feel we have provided adequate replacements with Low Ki's 1st high profile matches in over a year, Masato Tanaka & the unique experience of having TNA stars Daniels & Kaz in a main event of DGUSA. Talent expense is the same to us

UltimoDragonQuest fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Apr 1, 2014

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Gabe not offering refunds? Well I'm loving shocked.

It's literally an Evolve card with Tanaka on one night and Kaz and Daniels on the other. If they were both on the same card then cool you have your justification for charging twice the regular price (even if that's a stretch), but as it is it's hard to argue its any more worthwhile than any other indie card.

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



But the talent costs the same. Everyone should be happy. That's how consumer value works!

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
It's not even like Gabe has a history of not offering refunds, ticketholders were offered refunds for Unscripted II (the show CM Punk was brought in to replace Punk.) He just knows people would actually want refunds this time.

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RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.
Why does Low-Ki cost the same price as flying in a star from Japan. A relevant star, and not an indy darling from 8 years ago.

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