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boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
Yes, Virginia, it is possible to stay in grad school too long.

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boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

icantfindaname posted:

Eripsa why don't you actually respond to the question of 'why is this necessary or beneficial in any way' instead of using rhetorical tricks to dodge it?

If a answer to a question isn't ten paragraphs of needless academic fluff, is it really an answer? You can't make a TA's eyes glaze over with brevity.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
You might as well close the thread then, because I doubt anyone who posts here sincerely wants to wade into whatever goofy idea you're selling this time.

Personally I just don't see the point, the only purpose of this idea is to serve as an intellectual exercise which is nice and all but you've got a bad track record of dealing with any sort of criticism so these threads always just end up hounding you for being too wedded to your niche ideas to actually follow through with the discussion you ostensibly desire.

I think you're just looking to get your intellect stroked.

boner confessor fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Mar 31, 2014

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
It's also kind of goofy that you would lead off the thread by invoking your bad reputation and then getting hissy when you immediately get softball trolls.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
I think you have to have a lot of faith in the assumption that technology solves more problems than it creates.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
Yeah, when Eripsa was listing the different features of strangecoin it occurred to me that all of these transaction types already exist in one form or another, they're just not baked into the protocol of currency and exist as add-on functions of banking. The question there is why these things need to be packaged with currency in the first place unless you start with the idea that monetary systems work much better from a computer science perspective than an economic perspective.

So basically OP unless you can demonstrate why treating money as packets instead of dollars and tracking transaction metadata intrinsically is a good thing you won't get much traction outside of cryptonerd circles.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

RealityApologist posted:

The point is that it provides feedback on aspects of the economic situation that aren't salient when using money.

Think of money like a compression algorithm on value, condensing widely distributed information about the economic situation into a simple number you can write on a check.

I'm arguing that traditional currencies are a lossy compression algorithm; the economic turbulence we experience is partly caused by artifacts of the compression process: distortions, missing data, and so one. It's enough to run economies at small enough scale, but at global scales it's become completely unmanagable. It's like watching stuttering porn on a 56k modem. It might get the job done, but it's not pretty.

I'm not saying that Strangecoin is HD video on demand, but I'm saying it's a different kind of compression, with possibly different results.

Why? Why model high granularity individual transactions when these things are easily abstractible?

It feels like you're trying to shoehorn social networking into currency to solve problems that don't exist.

I'm highly suspicious of such things because web 2.0 nonsense is a playground for hucksters and scammers.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Guy DeBorgore posted:

I mean, if this is your idea of "limited scope" I think you really haven't thought it through enough, or at least hadn't when you wrote the OP.

For Eripsa, this is limited scope. I mean he's talking about a specific thing and not just freestyling high on his own farts.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
Nine times out of ten invoking Dunning-Kreuger is just a lame way of shutting down an idiot.

This is that rare occasion where it is perfectly valid.

RealityApologist posted:

I mean maybe I write like poo poo and I'm out of my depth, and you can laugh at it all you want, but at some point this moves over into a kind of cyberbulling and identity stalking that just isn't cool.

Do you have any idea how ironic this is given that you've provided all this information and that you have tremendous faith in the power of social networks?

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Forums Barber posted:

I am really amused between the confluence of "social networks will shape how all future society operates" and "hey what the gently caress man, just because i posted all my personal information it isn't cool for you to exploit that"

also, grad students are literally indentured servants and if you're surprised to meet one who's an idiot, then you clearly never spent much time living in a college town.

I know that you all hate me for being an unredeemably pompous windbag, and I only post my ideas here to test them against your hostile and bitter jabs, but taking the information I've been spreading around for years and actually giving me more attention than I profess to desire is crossing a line.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

RealityApologist posted:

I feel like the reaction I'm getting to these proposals suggests they are at least somewhat interesting and novel

The other day as I was walking along a major road I saw a bird that had been run over by a car, and its corpse was both interesting and novel.

You keep hiding behind the self-purported brilliance of your ideas without ever engaging in the idea that people find you pompous and verbally evasive. Until you remove this tendency from your communicative style you won't find much success in academia.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

RealityApologist posted:

I would be overjoyed if someone else stripped off all the poo poo and did something useful with it.

I too would like to see someone create something from nothing.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

RealityApologist posted:

I mean lol. I'm not bothered but the deep irony of the criticisms thrown at me is certainly necessary for interpreting the thread, and I'm just pointing it out.

You're so incompetent that even your attempted reversal of fortune is unfounded, pompous, and displays a profound lack of fundamental understanding of the concepts you wish to talk about.

You're not just confident in your own abilities, you're incapable of self-assessment.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

RealityApologist posted:

This digression started by simply trying to identifying the vitriolic bullying, hostile misinterpretation, and character assassination I have to cope with in this thread.

You invited every bit of it so it's pretty ridiculous to whine now. In your first post you established your contentious intellectual history with these forums, while also stating the thread would turn out roughly like it has and that you were OK with this as some kind of preemptive puppet master. It seems a bit hollow now that you're saying it's more than you wish to bear given that you quite literally asked for it.

eXXon posted:

What makes these unspecified critics hypocritical? And while we're at it, what have you contributed to this thread besides noise and meta-analysis of the increasingly pointless debate?

Reminder for those still reading this thread who aren't up on D&D lore, BernieLomax is to perpetual motion machines as Eripsa/RealityApologist is to network theory.

RealityApologist posted:

It's like we're playing streetball and I'm playing 30 against one and getting fouled left and right. I mean it's good practice and it's fun, but playing on a real court with refs and rules is a completely different game. Like, this is part of my montage training sequence; this isn't the big game. Getting beat up here is part of how that training works.

Getting trolled to poo poo is in no way helpful when preparing to defend your doctoral thesis.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

BernieLomax posted:

I know all about it. And I expect better of you. Get your poo poo together.

I know that you're a pack of howling dittohead retards and yet your level of discourse continues to disappoint me

Yeesh, no wonder you think free energy is real.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
I know that you jerks run jokes into the ground so hard that NIST or at least the Secret Service is legally compelled to investigate but Christ on the Cross, aren't there ANY standards around here???

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

BernieLomax posted:

And even worse you assume that I somehow have the same opinons now that I had 8 years ago. Isn't that sort of hosed up?

No actually that's normal.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
Eripsa and Bernie hard at work on the next stage of Homo Sapiens evolution:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbSFkNaBCTo

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
So Strangecoin is a fusion of Reddit upvotes and various altcoin tipping?

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
The Silicon Valley VC mindset as applied to knowledge production.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Forums Barber posted:

I'm not a psychologist, but based on the ebbs and flows of the thread I'd predict his next manic phase to hit Tuesday or Wednesday, so it's okay, he should be back to his old self soon.

This thread is a safe space for non-experts to claim expertise.

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boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Dead Reckoning posted:

Considering most people post on Something Awful so that they can feel superior, it's probably best to let this one die.

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