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Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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Xeom posted:

Is there really any hope at all. Like is there anything a progressive could possibly look forward too? It seems america and the world is just two steps away from doom.

Liquor is still legal, and weed is coming to a state near you. So sit back, relax and say: "gently caress it."

Well, until you lose your job, home and reason to live. Then you start riots.

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Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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SedanChair posted:

Please tell me you're joking.

I dunno man, I'll take the grunge, rap and nu metal of the 90's over My Morning Jacket and the like any day.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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ReidRansom posted:

Cock(and dog)fighting is primarily about gambling, not sport, no matter what the Gamefowl Defense Network would have you believe. That's the draw.

Can't the motherfuckers just play Keno? Poker? Hell, ESPN has like 8 networks. I'm sure they could find a game to bet on at any given hour.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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axeil posted:

I'm not sure whether this is hilarious or terrifying. If there was a trojan horse fake-Twitter in Cuba then Castro would fall! :bahgawd:

It makes USAID look really, really bad though.

I have to wonder if the alphabet agencies don't do this poo poo just to justify their budgets. Spend a few million loving around with vaguely defined "enemies", ruining our reputation abroad, creating more enemies. Rinse and repeat. Or is it that I'm just far too cynical?

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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mdemone posted:

I was just eye-rolling to myself about how it seems like the CIA has never done anything useful, but then I realized that it may be literally true. Can anyone name a morally-defensible operation they haven't hosed up?

Not to sound as if I'm defending the leading cause of misery in the southern hemisphere, but if they actually succeeded in doing something useful, we likely have no clue it happened.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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Zombie Samurai posted:

Would Democrats even lose votes if they came out and said "We don't give a gently caress about your guns"? Because I'm pretty sure there's no combination of Dems you could elect that would result in any substantial restrictions on gun ownership. Why not just say it out loud and pick up some idiot single-issue votes?

I've always wondered if the supporters of increased gun control wouldn't be better served by using reverse psychology to get what it wants. Start loudly advocating for minorities and the poor to arm themselves for their own protection, and a signifigant chunk of the conservative gun crowd would be crying for controls.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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This is fantastic. Thanks.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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Joementum posted:

Yeah, I can't decide if they scheduled it for that day specifically to piss off the left or because it's to protest the Obama administration's crackdown on payday lenders and they're going for a payday / May Day rhyme thing. Probably both.

Also, loving :lol: at CEI scheduling a rally to protest the government cracking down on payday lender abuse.

Libertarians tend to equate May Day with socialism, and complain about how many lives "socialism" has taken.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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duz posted:

I'm just surprised by how crappy the paintings look. Those ones that leaked from his hacked email account seemed less melty-face than these.

This seems really petty to be honest. The guy's got more artistic talent than I do, that's for sure.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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Nonsense posted:

Goons poo poo on multi-million dollar projects that look amazing and unique, but don't you dare criticize King George's art talent!

Come on man, there's plenty to criticize about W's reign of terror. Why bother making GBS threads on him being an amateur painter? It just seems petty.

Really, being smug about anyone's lack of artistic talent is pretty dickish to me. Well, unless it's funny that is.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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GlyphGryph posted:

Here's the thing about the Rancher guy - I am worried it will end up like another Waco, because the feds are playing this just as loving pants-on-head-retarded now as they did then.

The guy is breaking the law and refusing to follow court orders. Why the hell didn't they just arrest the bastard when they started? Why did they wait 20 years to start taking action against him? Why establish "free speech zones" and bring down the anger of the state gov, who was until that point letting them handle it? Why such an insane response, and why isn't it over yet?

I swear, the Feds end up getting this urge every so often to whip out their dick and wave it around, and drat the consequences, and if this goes south it's going to be entirely their fault for being super-incompetent. Again.

Waco was a tragedy because of innocents being involved. I'd be hard pressed to do more than shrug if a few truckloads of right wing militiamen are shot for firing on Federal agents.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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Defenestration posted:

I just imagine running for anything and having to show up to a debate and seriously defend why maybe women aren't second class citizens and no the obama isn't poisoning your water supply with fluoride etc etc. 30k is nowhere near enough money for that

Being able to openly mock low-information conservatives, and call them out on their idiocy from a position with a bully pulpit? My God, it'd be my favorite job ever.

You know, up until one of them shot me.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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DeusExMachinima posted:

So what's the new goalpost for having 4A concerns worth listening to, if it's not opposing racial profiling by law enforcement? Does Huckabee need to be the new MLK first now? The hypothetical was that him or maybe someone like him wouldn't care if a dude with a turban was pulled out by the TSA. Plenty of those folks exist, but in this case I agree with the Huckster.

Mayhaps he should be speaking to the gentlemen who created the TSA, and accused anyone who complained at the time of "wanting the terrorists to win". You know, rather than rabble rousing against the current administration to score political points with yet more "Tyranny!" rhetoric for Tea Party mouth breathers.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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fool_of_sound posted:

Scalia is actually a Native American trickster spirit enacting revenge against the invaders.

The bastard has terrible aim then.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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Captain_Maclaine posted:

It's come up here and in other threads, the consensus seems to be "that guy's a shithead, his supporters are bloodthirsty loons, and the feds did the right thing backing down so we wouldn't have another Waco and/or Ruby Ridge." The big thing to watch for now is what happens when they slap him with massive civil penalties, and whether that provokes his plastic patriot pals into shooting anyone.

The downside of the Federal government giving him back his cattle and leaving, is that it has emboldened the morons who went looking for a fight. This might start to happen a lot more often, in increasingly rediculous situations.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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loquacius posted:

"Albert Carrington." BOOM.

e: Charles Fairchild, Herbert Ronsonby-Smythe III, Alexander Endicott... I could go on all day (and very well might; this is fun)

Englebert Hornsby, Esq.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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Thank you. This thread really needed more Zazz. :rimshot:

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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IMJack posted:

There needs to be an educational/propaganda push to teach people that birth control is not abortion, and that properly used birth control means abortions wouldn't be necessary.

Yes, this is directly counter to Catholic dogma and will be complained about, but the American Catholic establishment is screaming about how Obama is directly oppressing them already. gently caress 'em. And I say that as a practicing Catholic.

Find a wedge to drive between the Catholics and Evangelicals while we're at it.

Fixed.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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Radbot posted:

Personally I can't wait until the first unintentional gun massacre where a backfiring car causes everyone in the vicinity to just start blindly shooting like the untrained civilians they are.

I really don't think that would happen unless they removed the permit requirements on Open Carry. They're usually pretty docile when it comes to potentially losing "the precious" over an altercation.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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Mainly because a lot of folks can be salvaged. I accept my racism for what it is, and try to work past it. If I'm still worthy of hatred for it than :shrug:, but I think people can change if they make the effort.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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tbp posted:

As someone who grew up in a non-racist household, it is tough for me to accept people that are racist and in fact not hate them.

And you're sure you hold no racist beliefs or preconceptions? I used to be sure of it myself, but had to be checked a few times on things I never knew I was doing wrong. Privilege is a hell of a thing.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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On the bright side, if Romney runs again we'll get another few years of Ann Romney quotes. I fondly remember drunkenly ranting at my Republican parents about Ann Romney's dancing goddamn horse and its forthcoming tax breaks. A repeat could be comedy gold.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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SedanChair posted:

Thanks for providing an excellent example of the suicidal Democratic bigotry I was just alluding to.

I know that the "knockout game" bigotry talking point has nothing to do with yourself, but can you at least see why a lot of pro gun control folks see that as a thing "they" believe when the head of the NRA, Ted Nugent and every other "voice" of the gun rights movement keeps ranting about it every time a microphone is nearby?

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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SedanChair posted:

Let me go ahead and call up Sergeant Gandhi of the tac squad and he'll get a team together.

Hell couldn't they just drop canisters of tear gas on them from drones or shoot them with that bigass microwave tank we have from afar?

I know, they could start using sound warfare. Just blast Pit Bull and NWA at them 24 hours a day until they start going stark raving mad.

Talmonis fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Apr 29, 2014

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:

That might be hard if they actually have .50 caliber rifles, which given the crowd some probably do.

That means they shot first. :ssh:

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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Fried Chicken posted:

I want this to end with Magic Johnson as the new owner :getin:

I thought he played for the Lakers?

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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FAUXTON posted:

Part of me says it'd be comedic if the feds rolled up to the property line of The Bundyranch in a handful of Bradleys and just waited there. Or just flew a blind/unarmed drone around the place. Just something similar to the whole "NOPE TOTALLY LEGAL, JUST WALKING AROUND WAVING A GUN AROUND" poo poo they're trying to pull.

Black panthers rallies and Pride parades 24/7 just outside his property line.

A red cross temporary abortion clinic funded by Planned Parenthood, and sponsored in part by the ACLU.

ACORN funded soup kitchens and an Occupy tent city labeled "Occupy Bundy".

Not one of them would survive the sharp increase in blood pressure.

Talmonis fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Apr 30, 2014

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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Jesus man, the rest of those graphs. Up to and including "dissaprove of interracial dating" being higher than in the 80's. What the hell's going on around here?

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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Magres posted:

Also, I don't think human shields is illegal if they're there of their own accord.

Wouldn't Child Protective Services be able to use this case as a clear and present danger posed by the mothers to their children? Putting kids in that situation screams "reckless endangerment" to me.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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Fried Chicken posted:

I'm phone posting right now, so I can't really say he is wrong.

We're still more productive than any prior generation, regardless of what we do with our downtime.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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zoux posted:

Someone needs to explain to these guys that Red Dawn is not how it would go down. Like seriously, how do they think a shooting war with the US Government ends?


BLM Officer:
"Sir, if they fire on us we'll be forced to retaliate..."

Man from the State Department:
"Explain it to them."

The officer turns, and speaks into his radio.

From over the horizon the roar of thunder echoes across the hardpan. A scream streaks across the sky in mere seconds as the massive shell lands on the unoccupied pickup truck nearby the mass of militiamen. The ground itself heaves, slamming the mass of armed men to the dirt. The truck is gone, all that remains is a deep crater of twisted, smoking steel. A solitary burning tire rolls past the terrified militia in the near silence.

The man from the state department smiles.
"There, that should do it. Tell them to lay down arms, I have a dinner reservation in two hours."

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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Axetrain posted:

I was masturbating over the idea of Abrams rolling in and wrecking their poo poo but really the authorities absolutely made the right move in backing off. The fact that these people are turning on each other now proves it. I mean let's face it militias are filled with various types of unstable wackos looking for any and any reason to become violent, its only natural that if the feds wont give them a reason to become martyrs then they will find one amongst themselves. The only problem is that there are children in their group and I don't really see any good outcomes for them :( I guess we can hope they just get bored or run out of money and go home but I don't know if the odds are good of that happening.

The best outcome for the children is that they are tracking all the parents there, and CPS will take custody of them as soon as they leave the ranch and are more easily detained.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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zoux posted:

Here's your first look at the monument the Satanic Church is going to request be installed at the Oklahoma State Capitol under their new religious freedom law:


Holy poo poo, that's fantastic. I love these people for what they're doing.

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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LorneReams posted:

Remember that just recently a bunch of protesters aimed weapons at the police and federal agensts and had nothing happen to them.

The difference of course, was they were right-wing protesters, who are typically handled delicately or not at all.

I do wonder however, at what point it becomes worth it to start throwing bottles, bricks and "repatriated" tear gas canisters back at the police. They're going to attack and beat on left-wing protesters anyway right?

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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Yeah man, those darn unarmed students need to just shut up and obey their betters. Haven't they learned their lesson by now that they are naught but mud to be ground under the feet of Men of Action?

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Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
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Install Windows posted:

The real reason is there were way more people protesting across a much larger time period, which resulted in more chances for a cop to whack a guy or two. We're talking hundreds of cities for months at a time, and especially over time you started to have real unbalanced types joining up who were practically cop bait.

Stop making excuses for them. They already are immune to prosecution, they don't need apologetics from anyone else. The police in this country get off on beating and murdering college students. I don't see it changing any time soon.

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