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Rent
Jul 20, 2004
Steal the warm wind tired friend

JPrime posted:

Fwiw, the podcast app holds its place for me... how did you get podcasts into it?

Podcasts that I have a subscription with; locally stored on my phone. I'll try and delete and re-add and see if that fixes it.

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beefnoodle
Aug 7, 2004

IGNORE ME! I'M JUST AN OLD WET RAG

larchesdanrew posted:

Has anyone else had their outlook email stop syncing since the update? I keep getting varying error messages every time I try to sync.

I haven't had trouble with my Exchange/Outlook accounts, but I had to delete and re-add my Google account to get it to sync.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Welp, picked up the 625 since work is going to comp me part of the price for doing some coding on it. I know it's not a high end phone or anything, but really I just need something I can take calls on and hack away at.

Really dig WP8, just pulling up the 8.1 update now. Already had people tell me it was a weirdo move. I guess going from iPhone to WP is like french kissing Bill Gates over the open casket of Steve Jobs :(

Is there a dedicated WP app development thread? I saw some questions posed in here so I guess if there isn't anything better I'll throw them here as they come up. The only one I really have right now is whether it's possible to initiate a VPN connection from C# code.

Was really happy to realize that the DreamSpark subscription I picked up provides me a year of gratis app store access :cool:

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Apr 16, 2014

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost

Martytoof posted:

Is there a dedicated WP app development thread? I saw some questions posed in here so I guess if there isn't anything better I'll throw them here as they come up. The only one I really have right now is whether it's possible to initiate a VPN connection from C# code.

Not that I know of. I've been wanting to make one but :effort:.

As for VPN stuff, there is Windows.Networking.Vpn, which should work on WinRT apps.

.Tim
Jul 3, 2004

larchesdanrew posted:

Has anyone else had their outlook email stop syncing since the update? I keep getting varying error messages every time I try to sync.

My girlfriend had to disable text message backup and it synced with no issues. Dumb fix but doing some reading it has been an issue for a while now. Hopefully they fix it soon.

somethingwicked
May 5, 2006

Hai!
I had to do the same thing after a reset to factory restore. I turned the text message backup back on after a couple weeks and everything seemed to be working. Give that a shot.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Feature request: make the Messaging app stop suggesting emoji when I'm just typing words :mad:

Tivac
Feb 18, 2003

No matter how things may seem to change, never forget who you are

loquacius posted:

Feature request: make the Messaging app stop suggesting emoji when I'm just typing words :mad:

DON'T YOU DARE

Mikser
Nov 25, 2007
If your text message backup is sufficiently large (hundreds or thousands of messages, I'm not sure of the exact point where it becomes an issue), the sync will time-out before all of them have had the chance to download. There's no need to worry about that, with each sync it downloads more of the missing messages until it has them all. Could take a dozen or more syncs, though, which is annoying.

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

loquacius posted:

Feature request: make the Messaging app stop suggesting emoji when I'm just typing words :mad:

The keyboard does that in general, I weirdly like it :D

Factor Mystic
Mar 20, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

Martytoof posted:

Is there a dedicated WP app development thread? I saw some questions posed in here so I guess if there isn't anything better I'll throw them here as they come up. The only one I really have right now is whether it's possible to initiate a VPN connection from C# code.

The regular .NET thread is probably the right place for this.

Drastic Actions posted:

Is there any way to change what news sources are used by Cortana? Because I don't want to see Fox News stories about Benghazi in my feed.

I assume, but can't confirm, that this will sync with News (formerly Bing News) sources which are configurable in that app, when synced with your Microsoft Account.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
So if Cortana replaces the regular "Search" thing, is there no way to scan QR codes anymore? Or am I just looking in the wrong place?

(edit: I mean, with the OS. I know I can download QR apps)

Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


Open up the camera and take a look at the lenses, there should be a Bing vision option there.

Anonymouse Mook
Jul 12, 2006

Showing Vettel the way since 1979

Martytoof posted:

So if Cortana replaces the regular "Search" thing, is there no way to scan QR codes anymore? Or am I just looking in the wrong place?

It is now available as a Lens in the camera app. I can't remember what it was called as I have moved my phone region back to UK.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Ahh. OK, that's neat. I hope they put it back in the search screen though, that was pretty convenient.

Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."
Don't forget to install the Bing Sports app so you can find out about Jays scores 2 days after!

(Really it updates loving slow for some reason)

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

Martytoof posted:

Welp, picked up the 625 since work is going to comp me part of the price for doing some coding on it. I know it's not a high end phone or anything, but really I just need something I can take calls on and hack away at.

Really dig WP8, just pulling up the 8.1 update now. Already had people tell me it was a weirdo move. I guess going from iPhone to WP is like french kissing Bill Gates over the open casket of Steve Jobs :(

Is there a dedicated WP app development thread? I saw some questions posed in here so I guess if there isn't anything better I'll throw them here as they come up. The only one I really have right now is whether it's possible to initiate a VPN connection from C# code.

Was really happy to realize that the DreamSpark subscription I picked up provides me a year of gratis app store access :cool:

FYI, Newegg has the 925 for $200 right now, no idea if that supports the bands you need or if you can order from Newegg, though. You'll get a much better camera and screen at the very least over the 625, which might be nice if you decide you like WP enough to use it for awhile.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Happy_Misanthrope posted:

Don't forget to install the Bing Sports app so you can find out about Jays scores 2 days after!

(Really it updates loving slow for some reason)

I just told Cortana what my favorite teams were and the scores show up in my daily update. So in other words I find out 12 hours after. Great improvement there. :downs:

e:

RVProfootballer posted:

FYI, Newegg has the 925 for $200 right now, no idea if that supports the bands you need or if you can order from Newegg, though. You'll get a much better camera and screen at the very least over the 625, which might be nice if you decide you like WP enough to use it for awhile.

What kind of process would it be to get an off-contract phone on AT&T's LTE network? I've never done that before, but if I could upgrade my phone to an objectively better one this cheap without burning my upgrade it's probably worth doing.

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!
Grimey Drawer

Martytoof posted:

Ahh. OK, that's neat. I hope they put it back in the search screen though, that was pretty convenient.
If you turn off Location services, hitting the search button will default to regular Bing search, with the Bing Vision icon back at the bottom. Turn Location back on, and Cortana comes back, but with no Bing Vision icon. What I did was put a Location toggle in my Action Center, so I can easily turn it on or off without menu digging.

loquacius posted:

I just told Cortana what my favorite teams were and the scores show up in my daily update. So in other words I find out 12 hours after. Great improvement there. :downs:
Is there really no option to add college teams of any sport?

redbackground fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Apr 16, 2014

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
I asked Cortana what time it was and she took me to a bing search for "what time is it" so I set my region back to "Canada" because I don't need any help being clueless :downs:

Short of removing LinkedIn credentials, is there any way to remove LinkedIn contacts from the phone app's directory?

BigBoss
Jan 26, 2012

by Lowtax

loquacius posted:

What kind of process would it be to get an off-contract phone on AT&T's LTE network? I've never done that before, but if I could upgrade my phone to an objectively better one this cheap without burning my upgrade it's probably worth doing.
According to the comments, this phone is locked to T Mobile, so you'd need to unlock it first. :\

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Martytoof posted:

I asked Cortana what time it was and she took me to a bing search for "what time is it" so I set my region back to "Canada" because I don't need any help being clueless :downs:

Short of removing LinkedIn credentials, is there any way to remove LinkedIn contacts from the phone app's directory?

Settings -> Applications pivot -> People -> filter contact list

BigBoss posted:

According to the comments, this phone is locked to T Mobile, so you'd need to unlock it first. :\

Well hey, that's TWO processes I'm completely clueless about. Knew there was a catch :sigh:

Napolean Bonerfarts
Dec 11, 2003

by Pragmatica
Some other good Cortana Easter Eggs we discovered at work:

What does the Fox say?
Do you like Xbox?
What are you wearing?
What is the meaning of life?

Napolean Bonerfarts fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Apr 16, 2014

Shrimpy
May 18, 2004

Sir, I'm going to need to see your ticket.

loquacius posted:

Feature request: make the Messaging app stop suggesting emoji when I'm just typing words :mad:

Predictive emoji is the future.

Also, typing "poo poo" and having the emoji pop-up is pro.

waffle
May 12, 2001
HEH
Does upgrading to WP8.1 delete apps and app data? The backup/restore stuff in the OP makes it sound like it does, but just want to make sure...

edit: Ah, guess it deletes everything but reinstalls everything? I assume app data is probably retained but live tiles aren't then?

waffle fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Apr 17, 2014

Tivac
Feb 18, 2003

No matter how things may seem to change, never forget who you are

waffle posted:

Does upgrading to WP8.1 delete apps and app data? The backup/restore stuff in the OP makes it sound like it does, but just want to make sure...

edit: Ah, guess it deletes everything but reinstalls everything? I assume app data is probably retained but live tiles aren't then?

It didn't delete anything for me, there's a migrate step as part of the install.

OldPueblo
May 2, 2007

Likes to argue. Wins arguments with ignorant people. Not usually against educated people, just ignorant posters. Bing it.
All my apps reinstalled for some reason. I don't think any data was retained since I had to re-login to them. BUT my friend with an HTC 8x didn't have any reinstall. Soooo roll the bones.

Partycat
Oct 25, 2004

it didnt seem to eraase anything but it did reinstall apps. i reset my phone and that lost contacts and a bunch of poo poo. it came up and asked me if i wanted to restore by entering a code to my email. i picked later, now i cant find thata again. having two gmail accounts seems to be what was causing it to crash ande screw up, unfortunately.

waffle
May 12, 2001
HEH
Fair enough. Guess I'll wait till the weekend to update, when I'll have time to fix things as necessary, then.

OldPueblo
May 2, 2007

Likes to argue. Wins arguments with ignorant people. Not usually against educated people, just ignorant posters. Bing it.

Partycat posted:

it didnt seem to eraase anything but it did reinstall apps. i reset my phone and that lost contacts and a bunch of poo poo. it came up and asked me if i wanted to restore by entering a code to my email. i picked later, now i cant find thata again. having two gmail accounts seems to be what was causing it to crash ande screw up, unfortunately.

If you say later I could've sworn there's a way to do it, but I don't recall how. Maybe when you sign into the store for the first time?

Factor Mystic
Mar 20, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction
I just noticed you can swipe down to close on the multitasking screen. Neat.

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible
I do like how the Mobile Data option is now a toggle switch instead of a drop-down list, even though I wish it was supported on the Quick Actions bar.

Also from checking around Google, I haven't seen anyone else comment on Podcast downloads resetting when the app loses focus, so I wonder if it's just me, or if most people can just finish downloading an episode before the 1-3 minute timer auto-locks the screen. Can anyone else with 8.1 try and reproduce this?

1: Open the Podcasts app, load an episode list for a podcast, then select an episode and hit the download button.

2: Watch the status on-screen for it to say Paused > Downloading, then hit the Windows Logo key to go back to the home screen.

3: Open the Podcasts app again (either from task screen or from the app icon).

If it's like mine, you're back at the episode page, but now the download status is gone, and the download button is available again. Despite this, the wifi status claims that the phone is transferring data, but I have no idea what specifically. If I leave it alone long enough, will this podcast end up in my on-phone list, or is it just stuck in a temp folder somewhere?

LentThem fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Apr 17, 2014

MyFaceBeHi
Apr 9, 2008

I was popular, once.
Out of all the things wrong with xbox music, the fact that you can't change the audio settings in the app is probably my biggest thing against it. Why is it an option in the menu in freaking Nokia MixRadio yet it's not an option in the stock music app where you would expect it to be? Sure this is something that the music app in iOS does as well but surely they want to be seen as being better than the competition by adding such things!

Also, if you want to ask Cortana something funny, ask it what it thinks about Google, Apple, Android and iOS.

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost
So when 8.1 was released I put my sim card back into my Lumia 920 and started using it as my main device... that lasted all of three days. It's back in my iPhone. I'm still going to develop for it, but once you use something like an iPhone 5S or Nexus 5, it's really hard to go back to that 920 hardware, even if the OS is improved. If/when there is an update to the 1020 with a better screen I would be interested in picking it up and trying again.

Beyond the hardware there, there are a few other software issues at the moment really holding me back from fully committing too. Xbox Music drives me insane. I get that's the old beta version, but even when those bugs are fixed I have a feeling I still won't like it as much as the iOS and Google Play music apps. Also having to use US English really impacts my workflow when making apps. Having to switch just to test my Cortana hooks is annoying, and I wish there was an option to just enable it no matter what language your phone is set to.

Also, it's more fun to speak with Siri in Japanese. :shrug:.

Edward IV
Jan 15, 2006

Oh great. It looks like Internet Sharing has become more temperamental with Windows Phone 8.1. I haven't been able to reliably reproduce the problem yet but it seems that within a day of after using Internet Sharing it will no longer work. My attempts to initiate the connection from my Windows 8.1 tablet will fail and the Internet Sharing setting page will fail to load and crash back to the settings menu. The only way I've found so far to get Internet Sharing to work again is to restart the phone. It's not exactly an elegant solution, though.

EDIT: I didn't even need a day. WiFi sharing broke within a few hours after heavily using Internet Sharing. This time, I also found that WiFi and Airplane Mode settings were just as broken. So I'm starting to wonder if this is an OS issue or a firmware/driver issue. Perhaps next time, I'll see if I can work around the problem by manually turning off WiFi first and then activating Internet Sharing. It's still not an elegant solution either.

Edward IV fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Apr 17, 2014

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

WPCentral claims XBox Music is getting patched next Tuesday :toot:

quote:

If you're interested to know what's on the way, here's what Microsoft is looking to include in the April 22nd update:
  • Numerous stability fixes, including many of the reported black screens
  • Cortana integration is complete and now supports playing playlists by name
  • UI polish to improve animations and transitions between UI views
  • Improved messaging for encountered errors, such as unplayable content in collections
  • Background initial sync of local and cloud content

And more to come after that, too!

quote:

As noted above, there will be bi-weekly releases after the first update has rolled out, which are set to include the following:
  • Continued focus on Stability and Performance
  • Live Tile integration
  • Quickplay improvements, including “recent” lists
  • Kids Corner Support
  • UX improvements (Search result grouping, creating new Radio Stations, improved Network status messages, Blue UI language alignment, now playing improvements and more)

Will this fix the lovely performance? It had loving better! :toot:

Partycat
Oct 25, 2004

Excellent! The issue with the 8XT wasn't multiple Google account like I thought it was, but, rather, there appears to be general instability reported regarding WiFi and these units, either in general, or regarding secured networks. It will crash the phone, reboot, freeze, or the WiFi part craps out and it says that I "Can't do this right now" when I press on the WiFi turn on.

Good to see updates are coming.

joebuddah
Jan 30, 2005
Has any other Toyota owners noticed that after the update you can no longer browse the device for songs from the in dash radio?

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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joebuddah posted:

Has any other Toyota owners noticed that after the update you can no longer browse the device for songs from the in dash radio?
It's not Toyota specific. There was a large Bluetooth overhaul and this was a parity regression from WP8. Known issue, CXE is aware -- hoping they fix it because it impacts me also :)

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Jewmanji
Dec 28, 2003

xylo posted:

It's not Toyota specific. There was a large Bluetooth overhaul and this was a parity regression from WP8. Known issue, CXE is aware -- hoping they fix it because it impacts me also :)

Xylo, per your comment about a lot of the core features being compartmentalized into separate apps for faster updates- does this apply to Cortana too? I'm assuming the updates to the Cortana app will be somewhat regular- how much of logic of that system is built into the OS, and how much is inside of the app? Put in simpler terms, as I get used to her (that feels weird to say), I begin to wonder about what the next logical features for "her" will be, and whether they can be tacked on as simple app updates, or if they will require major OS revisions. For instance, right now any directions she provides are done through Here Drive- theoretically how simple is it to then tack on regular Here Maps directions for public transit/walking?

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