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forbidden lesbian posted:i'm not sure how to take this post. These characters and franchises are owned by someone who is not the developer. For a character to appear in the game they have to collaborate with Nintendo to reach an agreement on how each character is implemented, with some development teams even having a say in how they're included. Sakurai has mentioned publicly Pokemon characters take a bit more discussion than most, probably because of the nature of the IP and the Pokemon Company. It's not "Smash HQ" that decided to further sexualize Samus in her design, it was the design they were okayed to use.
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Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anyone link this gallery of new screenshots. Some stills from the Nintendo Direct, but I think a fair amount of new info there. Someone tell me if I'm crazy, but is this item the S Flag from the Tales games? Or is it from something else and I'm not recognizing it? edit: Apparently it's a thing Namco uses in a lot of their games. Wind God Sety fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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Apr 9, 2014 05:39
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Wind God Sety posted:Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anyone link this gallery of new screenshots. Some stills from the Nintendo Direct, but I think a fair amount of new info there. Someone tell me if I'm crazy, but is this item the S Flag from the Tales games? Or is it from something else and I'm not recognizing it? Lot of new item pics in here. Very nice. Not sure about the flag.
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Apr 9, 2014 05:43
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Wind God Sety posted:Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anyone link this gallery of new screenshots. Some stills from the Nintendo Direct, but I think a fair amount of new info there. Someone tell me if I'm crazy, but is this item the S Flag from the Tales games? Or is it from something else and I'm not recognizing it? Wow, there's a lot of info here that wasn't revealed in the Direct. Seems like just about every item from Brawl is back.
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Apr 9, 2014 05:45
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Wind God Sety posted:Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anyone link this gallery of new screenshots. Some stills from the Nintendo Direct, but I think a fair amount of new info there. Someone tell me if I'm crazy, but is this item the S Flag from the Tales games? Or is it from something else and I'm not recognizing it? Some of these really own 
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Apr 9, 2014 05:46
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The ship stealer from Galaga is there too https://www.flickr.com/photos/48280274@N02/13729381833/in/set-72157643678092364
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Apr 9, 2014 05:46
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When Saki appeared as an assist trophy, that's when my heart sank a bit. I know there's gotta be more characters to come (Though not many left) but I was really hoping for Sin and Punishment to be apart of the roster.
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Apr 9, 2014 05:48
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DrPaper posted:These characters and franchises are owned by someone who is not the developer. For a character to appear in the game they have to collaborate with Nintendo to reach an agreement on how each character is implemented, with some development teams even having a say in how they're included. Sakurai has mentioned publicly Pokemon characters take a bit more discussion than most, probably because of the nature of the IP and the Pokemon Company. It was a joke bro
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Apr 9, 2014 05:53
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Oh this reminds me, like someone else already said, why the gently caress doesnt skull kid crash a moon into the stage?!?!
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Apr 9, 2014 05:54
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The first Gamexplain analysis video is up. Watch this if you want to absorb every single detail imaginable from a single trailer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSUmVhX83gI
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Apr 9, 2014 05:55
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Space T Rex posted:Oh this reminds me, like someone else already said, why the gently caress doesnt skull kid crash a moon into the stage?!?! He does. But it only works if the match lasts for 72 hours.
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Apr 9, 2014 05:55
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Space T Rex posted:Oh this reminds me, like someone else already said, why the gently caress doesnt skull kid crash a moon into the stage?!?! It is weird, especially since Palkia does the same thing.
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Apr 9, 2014 05:56
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Countblanc posted:That's more increasing the breadth of matchups, not their depth. Which is really a completely different thing and not inherently good either. I talked about this a bit in the last thread toward the end, but basically one of the most fun things about playing fighting games competitively (by which I mean aiming to win/improve, not literally tournament-level play) is learning matchups and using that knowledge on other people, but if there's too many characters then you can't viably learn all of the matchups, or even the basics of them if the character is rare enough. When every Mario can feasibly be one of a dozen different Mario "builds" then each of them is effectively a different character, to varying degrees. Worse yet, there's a good chance you'd have to learn on the fly and no rematch feature (since random matchmaking rarely has that and lol nintendo online) means each game would just be about trying to outgimmick your opponent since you couldn't really know anything going into the game. I play deckbuilding card games, and the tournament scenes around those don't collapse into quivering piles of goo over the idea of sideboards; it's part of the game to be ready for your opponent bringing out a card designed to hate you, and to hate right back. If it's cumbersome to actually change your moveset around, I can see them insisting on default only, but being able to tune for the fight you're in has been done well before. It doesn't matter that you can't rematch in random matchmaking because alternate movesets are disabled for those.
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Apr 9, 2014 05:57
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A few other things from that album that I think are worth highlighting, because I don't recognize them. I'd post them directly, but I can't manage to do that with Flickr. There's a Tanooki leaf, a chest, a drill cannon (from Megaman, maybe? I don't know), an eye cannon, a hornet's nest (possibly from the Villager), and a boomerang. There's also a picture of Chespin, presumably form a Pokeball; I don't remember if he was in the Direct.
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Apr 9, 2014 05:57
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Bobnumerotres posted:
Because Sakurai's brain will explode and then we won't have any smash bros 
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Apr 9, 2014 06:01
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Wind God Sety posted:Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anyone link this gallery of new screenshots. Some stills from the Nintendo Direct, but I think a fair amount of new info there. Someone tell me if I'm crazy, but is this item the S Flag from the Tales games? Or is it from something else and I'm not recognizing it? Correct. That's the Special Flag from a ton of Namco games, originally a racing game called Rally-X. It's even been in Star Fox Assault, as Namco made that. Still, there's a TON of info, including a lot of items, both new and old. However, consider both the S Flag and the Galaxians are from Namco's arcade days, perhaps we'll be getting a Namco rep from that era? My vote's on the Dig-Dug Guy. FighterKnuckles fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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Apr 9, 2014 06:07
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I'm pretty sure that's the Drill Arm from Kid Icarus: Uprising, now alongside the Ore Club as an item in Smash.
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Apr 9, 2014 06:08
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Heatwizard posted:I play deckbuilding card games, and the tournament scenes around those don't collapse into quivering piles of goo over the idea of sideboards; The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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Apr 9, 2014 06:10
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Franklin Badge's still there too 
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Apr 9, 2014 06:14
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Let's take a moment to acknowledge how effin' pretty the new Final Destination is. It's a better looking Metroid stage than the actual Metroid stage. When they showed off the 'Alternate Destinations' I noticed some of them had slanted edges, and some of them had walls. How exactly does that work?
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Apr 9, 2014 06:15
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So with the 3ds version, what button's going to relate to the z-button on the gamecube version? Just have the right trigger be for blocking and dodging and the left trigger for grabbing/grappling?F. Lobot posted:Let's take a moment to acknowledge how effin' pretty the new Final Destination is. This looks like it fell out of Soul Calibur.
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Apr 9, 2014 06:17
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Smoke Ball is back 
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Apr 9, 2014 06:17
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So I know that your online rank is equivalent to how many people you've bested, but is that all there is to it? Just +1 per win? Or we we think it will also -1 for a loss? And someone was complaining that there seems to be no way to control how many people per match, are we just assuming that because all the matches showed 4 people in them? Or did I miss him saying that there is no way to choose these things? I really hope you can choose your number of opponents, I think 1 V 1 is the most fun way to play. E: I am speaking strictly about online matches. I know obviously its very simple to control the number of players offline.
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Apr 9, 2014 06:17
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The eye cannon is also from Uprising, but there was also a Lightning Bolt, some weird flag thing that seems familiar but I can't place it right this second, and a poo poo ton or returning items. Like a good chunk of Brawl's returning items. I have to say, i'm impressed that the majority of Mario Kart's standard items are in the game.
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F. Lobot posted:Let's take a moment to acknowledge how effin' pretty the new Final Destination is. God this looks amazing. This is my new wallpaper and i love it MorningMoon fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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Heatwizard posted:I play deckbuilding card games, and the tournament scenes around those don't collapse into quivering piles of goo over the idea of sideboards; it's part of the game to be ready for your opponent bringing out a card designed to hate you, and to hate right back. If it's cumbersome to actually change your moveset around, I can see them insisting on default only, but being able to tune for the fight you're in has been done well before. It doesn't matter that you can't rematch in random matchmaking because alternate movesets are disabled for those. Card games aren't remotely comparable, since you have an entire 20+ minute match to adjust and notice patterns. MOBAs are in the same boat. A fighting game match is over in 60-90 seconds in real time. It isn't literally impossible to adjust, but I dunno, I think you'd struggle to find many people who play competitively who think that sort of thing is good for a game's long term growth versus short term gimmick value.
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Space T Rex posted:So I know that your online rank is equivalent to how many people you've bested, but is that all there is to it? Just +1 per win? Or we we think it will also -1 for a loss? And someone was complaining that there seems to be no way to control how many people per match, are we just assuming that because all the matches showed 4 people in them? Or did I miss him saying that there is no way to choose these things? IIRC the pro mode shows your win/loss record? And yeah I don't think they mentioned any sort of filtering for public online play which is a shame. I really hope the standard play is a 3 stock match instead of a 2 minute timer.... 
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Apr 9, 2014 06:22
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Blackheart posted:Franklin Badge's still there too So's Mr. Saturn! I wasn't exactly worried that we wouldn't get Ness but it's still reassuring to see.
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Apr 9, 2014 06:23
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bef posted:Because Sakurai's brain will explode and then we won't have any smash bros Also cause it might be a fun as heck sandbox for casual players. It's more customization, which I love, but is being intentionally left out of competitive play, which I think is better.
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Apr 9, 2014 06:24
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bef posted:I really hope the standard play is a 3 stock match instead of a 2 minute timer.... Oh my god I didn't even think of this. If you can't even customize game format...I don't even know. Suicide? Probably suicide tbh. You know, with all the effort Sakurai has put into allowing players to play anyway they want to this time, I can't imagine him stopping at just "for fun" and "for glory", surely he went all the way and let you choose number of players and game type. Right?! Please? Space T Rex fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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Apr 9, 2014 06:25
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Have we actually seen Ridley yet? Besides his shadow in the direct
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Apr 9, 2014 06:26
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Bicyclops posted:Also cause it might be a fun as heck sandbox for casual players. It's more customization, which I love, but is being intentionally left out of competitive play, which I think is better. Good point, dunno why it doesn't have its own matchmaking lobby. I'm sure we will have a pretty large group of goons just trying crazy stuff so i'm not too worried Space T Rex posted:Oh my god I didn't even think of this. If you can't even customize game format...I don't even know. Suicide? Probably suicide tbh. The game sounds pretty amazing so far but if they somehow gently caress up the pubby customization while getting a lot of things right..i just..  bef fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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Apr 9, 2014 06:28
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Electric Phantasm posted:Have we actually seen Ridley yet? Besides his shadow in the direct No, Sakurai knows how much people want him and he's just screwing with us. I kinda love it because I'm fine with Ridley just being a big guy who sets people on fire in the Metroid stage.
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Apr 9, 2014 06:29
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Electric Phantasm posted:Have we actually seen Ridley yet? Besides his shadow in the direct I think you could maybe make out one of his claws in a picture of the metroid stage.
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Apr 9, 2014 06:35
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TARDISman posted:No, Sakurai knows how much people want him and he's just screwing with us. I kinda love it because I'm fine with Ridley just being a big guy who sets people on fire in the Metroid stage. Is Ridley in the game? Unfortunately, he won't be showing up this time around. ... Nah! I'm only kidding! His shadow will be featured in one of the character movies! ... Kidding again! Ridley is too big.
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Apr 9, 2014 06:37
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Bicyclops posted:Is Ridley in the game? Unfortunately, he won't be showing up this time around. 
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Apr 9, 2014 06:38
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Bobnumerotres posted:I really can't believe the 3DS version is releasing several loving months before the WiiU version. I guess they're REALLY in a hurry to see the WiiU fail and die. Thanks Nintendo. Agreed. I don't regret my Wii U purchase but I really cannot fathom the marketing strategy behind it. If they want to rely on big name first-party titles to keep it afloat, that's fine but they actually have to develop and release said titles. We are only just getting Mario Kart now at the end of May, SSB in Nov-Dec, no ETA for Zelda game and no word at all on a Metroid or Starfox title (which at this stage of the game likely means a complete no-show on the Wii U). I really did enjoy Mario World 3D but it's the only game I have bought for the Wii U so far since I picked one up last last year. I just cannot work out the wisdom behind dragging their collective asses on making and releasing the games people by Nintendo systems for in the first place. I cannot imagine this new plan is making them much in the way of actual money so far.
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Apr 9, 2014 06:39
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Bicyclops posted:Is Ridley in the game? Unfortunately, he won't be showing up this time around. This is it, this their strategy. "Super Smash Bros. comes out next month on the Wii U version, among the several features it has over its handheld companion, we are proud to announce that its amazing HD technology allows it to exclusively fit Ridley directly for you!" Everyone tosses their 3DSes, the Wii U is saved and Iwata swims in money forever.
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Space T Rex posted:Oh this reminds me, like someone else already said, why the gently caress doesnt skull kid crash a moon into the stage?!?! Should be DK's final smash.
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bef posted:The game sounds pretty amazing so far but if they somehow gently caress up the pubby customization while getting a lot of things right..i just.. I was just rewatching some bits, and the Kirby Air Ride...power up...Battle Royale...thing is described specifically as a "4 Player Battle Game". If all game types online were always 4 player, that would be redundant right? Its making me more optimistic at least.
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