|
Yep, and they have innate digging and shafting.
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 05:42
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 25, 2024 22:55 |
|
|
Internet Kraken posted:So are Formicids really ant people? I want to play as an ant that punches people in the face. I demand you refer to them by their original name, "Dwants". (dwarf ants)
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 05:52
|
|
|
nrook posted:You're making me want to found "team bad players who have played a really long time but haven't played very much recently, also are bad" We should do this for the next tournament Got a good name for it?
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 06:02
|
|
|
I'm just going to call them ants probably. Or punch ants. Because the mental image of an ant wearing boxing gloves highly amused me as a child and still does. Though thinking about it now, permastasis blocks off basically every traditional method of escape. I guess you really need to rely on stealth, which I've never been a big fan of.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 06:03
|
|
|
Yeah stasis is a huge drawback, they are pretty hard to play. You gotta make do with shafting and walking away.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 06:04
|
|
|
Internet Kraken posted:I'm just going to call them ants probably. Or punch ants. Because the mental image of an ant wearing boxing gloves highly amused me as a child and still does. Though thinking about it now, permastasis blocks off basically every traditional method of escape. I guess you really need to rely on stealth, which I've never been a big fan of. You can still use lucy's blink. Infinite digging also allows you to effectively always fight things 1 on 1 with no interference from ranged, casting or smiters. Just take your time and play safe.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 06:42
|
|
|
Circle Nine posted:Ummm I'm pretty sure you meant to put this rockin picture of Gastronok at the top of the first post instead of that lame old thing? Oh poo poo, I actually did! (The current OP is actually my second attempt - the first one died to a browser crash.  )
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 06:52
|
|
|
Add elephant slug as a playable race in the next version. uPen posted:You can still use lucy's blink. Infinite digging also allows you to effectively always fight things 1 on 1 with no interference from ranged, casting or smiters. Just take your time and play safe. Huh. That might be a good reason to worship her even as something other than a AK, though finding an altar on purpose is pure luck so hardly a reliable strategy. Does stasis prevent you from developing mutations that change your speed? EDIT: Since you have infinite digging and can make tons of 1x1 corridors, maybe summon butterflies would actually help a lot. EDIT 2: Formicid is such a terrible name, I'm just gonna call em ants. Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Apr 11, 2014 |
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 07:01
|
|
|
Internet Kraken posted:Add elephant slug as a playable race in the next version. I think they took out the mutations that could make you faster/slower. A perk of being a Formicid is that berzerkitis/teleportitis don't affect you at least.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 07:03
|
|
|
Yeah fast/slow mutations are gone. As fun as my centaur who got fast 3 was, I think it's for the best.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 07:05
|
|
|
I see. You know, if Ants can't suffer from teleportitis and berserkitis, playing mutation lottery with them is probably not such a bad idea. You're less likely to end up with a set of mutations that is literally unplayable.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 07:11
|
|
|
Mutation lottery is pretty much always a good idea on dwants. You can get some ludicrous stuff going and turn into a walking tank if you're careful enough and use your tools effectively early on.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 07:13
|
|
|
Internet Kraken posted:Huh. That might be a good reason to worship her even as something other than a AK, though finding an altar on purpose is pure luck so hardly a reliable strategy. FoAK is decent (for a formicid), but the blink is not the reason. (As with most AKs, the reason is banish, corrupt, and worst-case, self-banish.) Lucy's blink is not especially strong, even for a race that can't blink otherwise.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 07:14
|
|
|
Well, it would be useful to make a gap when you need to get away from something. The reason Lugonu's blink isn't that great is because its inferior to basically every other kind, but when its the only one you can use you'd probably appreciate it a lot! So if ants have 4 arms, can I hold two small shields/one tower shield and not have it impact my unarmed in a negative way? Or do shields still gently caress with unarmed for them?
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 07:34
|
|
|
Internet Kraken posted:Well, it would be useful to make a gap when you need to get away from something. The reason Lugonu's blink isn't that great is because its inferior to basically every other kind, but when its the only one you can use you'd probably appreciate it a lot! Despite having a billion extra arms, formicids can only use one shield and one weapon, and still get the same penalties for using a shield with unarmed or archery. They do get a couple nice bonuses, though: they can wield 2-handed weapons with shields and they get the same reduced shield penalties as other "big" races (trolls, ogres and centaurs). A formicid only needs 15 shield skill to eliminate the penalty from large shields, instead of the normal 25. Combine that with the +3 aptitude and you should basically always be using a shield.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 07:47
|
|
|
So Yredelemnul is ridiculously fun if you can get past his rocky early game. The game I'm playing right now started as essentially an exercise in box-checking; I've never won a Fo, never won a Fi, and never seriously played with Yred, so I decided I'd play a FoFi of Yred. After dying a whole bunch early, I finally got a character fairly far in and wow, is this easy so far. I don't think I've ever had the ability to just go charging into the Snake or Elf vault, spam an ability a couple of times, and then hit tab until all the enemies are dead. Profane Servitors and Bone Dragons good minions.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 07:47
|
|
|
Never Not Use A Shield On Formicid. They used to be able to use GSC's, but that was removed in favor of the boosts to shield use for them which I really liked since it opened up a lot of options for the species instead of everyone rushing a GSC on them and then complaining that they were just Ogres that can wear normal armor and can't blink/haste/tele/whatever. e: also, get hype for the tournament Johnny Joestar fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Apr 11, 2014 |
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 08:00
|
|
|
Internet Kraken posted:I see. You know, if Ants can't suffer from teleportitis and berserkitis, playing mutation lottery with them is probably not such a bad idea. You're less likely to end up with a set of mutations that is literally unplayable. Formicids can still get Blurry Vision, which is by far the most dangerous mutation you can possibly have.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 08:39
|
|
|
Viashino_wizard posted:Formicids can still get Blurry Vision, which is by far the most dangerous mutation you can possibly have. Uh, why? I mean not being able to read blink and teleport scrolls is bad but Formicids can't use those anyway.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 08:44
|
|
|
LogicNinja posted:Uh, why? I mean not being able to read blink and teleport scrolls is bad but Formicids can't use those anyway. It could cause problems if you're using fear or fog as an escape, but that doesn't seem like "most dangerous mutation" territory.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 08:45
|
|
|
Just found out about the new version and have not played since the last tournament. Anyone have space for a novice level Berserker win on their team?
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 08:55
|
|
|
Viashino_wizard posted:Formicids can still get Blurry Vision, which is by far the most dangerous mutation you can possibly have. Blurry vision is hardly a disaster. Blurry vision is only a small (at level 1) chance for you to gently caress up reading a scroll. Potentially fatal if you need a scroll to bail you out of a bad situation, but most of the time its just a nuisance. Compare that to say, teleportitis throwing you into the middle of a vault full of dragons. That said, blurry vision is even less of an issue for an ant. Whats the situation in which you need to read a scroll right loving now? When you need to teleport or blink. Except ants can't do either of those in the first place. RPATDO_LAMD posted:Despite having a billion extra arms, formicids can only use one shield and one weapon, and still get the same penalties for using a shield with unarmed or archery. They do get a couple nice bonuses, though: they can wield 2-handed weapons with shields and they get the same reduced shield penalties as other "big" races (trolls, ogres and centaurs). A formicid only needs 15 shield skill to eliminate the penalty from large shields, instead of the normal 25. Combine that with the +3 aptitude and you should basically always be using a shield. Feh, lame. Oh well, I'm to committed to the idea of an Ant Monk to not try it at least a few times.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 09:10
|
|
|
Got a request. The official Crawl screenshots page is embarrassingly out of date, so I figured I'd update it. So if you're feeling helpful, take screenshots of yourself dying in stupid ways during the tournament and then send them to me.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 09:24
|
|
|
Viashino_wizard posted:Formicids can still get Blurry Vision, which is by far the most dangerous mutation you can possibly have. Then again, they also don't have access to the best two panic scrolls, Blink and Teleport. So even that is slightly less bad than normal.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 09:24
|
|
|
My team isn't showing up on the tournament clan list, and this is my RC file for 0.14 stable on CAOcode:edit: It's because i have a questionmark and spaces isn't it ugh editedit: it was busb fucked around with this message at 09:40 on Apr 11, 2014 |
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 09:31
|
|
|
Seriously, mutate the poo poo out of yourself when playing Formicid. It improves everything forever.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 09:33
|
|
|
Inspired by all of this mutation roulette talk, I made a Formicid to mess around. The first sky beast chunk I ate gave me mutation resistance.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 10:48
|
|
|
Attestant posted:Inspired by all of this mutation roulette talk, I made a Formicid to mess around. The first sky beast chunk I ate gave me mutation resistance. that doesn't actually affect mutations from potions/chunks
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 11:16
|
|
|
Elyv posted:that doesn't actually affect mutations from potions/chunks It's still amusing, tho.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 12:40
|
|
|
The worst mutation for Formicids is Frail, and will be the one I always aim to cure as fast as possible. Stasis does not combine well with low HP.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 15:10
|
|
|
Vine Stalkers need more context or something. I think they're a cool idea, but they don't have any analogues in the dungeon, or really any reason to be there other than being a cool idea.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 15:11
|
|
|
They're the thing that crawled out of the Forest.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 15:21
|
|
|
Fitzy Fitz posted:Vine Stalkers need more context or something. I think they're a cool idea, but they don't have any analogues in the dungeon, or really any reason to be there other than being a cool idea. I mean, that is or used to be true for a lot of the races. Where do Halflings hang out, for example?
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 15:22
|
|
|
I dunno, Halflings are pretty standard fantasy fare. And yeah it used to be more true of other races, and they've done a good job incorporating them into things. I'd just like to see the same with VS.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 15:29
|
|
|
Elyv posted:I mean, that is or used to be true for a lot of the races. Where do Halflings hang out, for example? Small villages.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 15:34
|
|
|
To me, being standard fantasy fare is an argument in favor of removing something, not keeping it. I wish they would rename deep dwarves to something other than dwarf. Halflings are cool though, I'd rather they remove kobolds than them.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 15:35
|
|
|
Yeah, I don't understand vine stalkers as flavor, and I hope that Lava Orcs get reskinned as salamanders cause I like salamanders and I like things I like.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 15:44
|
|
|
Tournament start-time is 4pm in Gods one true time-zone, right?
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 15:45
|
|
|
bisonbison posted:Yeah, I don't understand vine stalkers as flavor, and I hope that Lava Orcs get reskinned as salamanders cause I like salamanders and I like things I like. Mutations&Weirdness: 'Your bizarre plant/animal fused parts make you immune to rotting' 'You have very sharp teeth made of wood or something' 'For reasons beyond your leafy comprehension, healing wands and potions have no effect' Drinking a potion of magic: 'you feel magical energy course through your ...roots(?)' Kekekela posted:Tournament start-time is 4pm in Gods one true time-zone, right?
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 15:54
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 25, 2024 22:55 |
|
|
It's amazing how much of a difference being able to start with a level 2 weapon makes.
|
|
#
?
Apr 11, 2014 16:02
|
|
