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tanglewood1420 posted:2011 could end up being one of the greatest drafts in NFL history. It's early obviously, but there are several potential Hall of Famers in this team already. The 2011 draft was great I think it only looks so dominant because all of those guys are in their primes right now. I love Cam but most of these other quarterbacks blow him out of the water and there really isn't a run game to speak of for the class. As of right now I don't know that anyone has a better team than 2003. The Puppy Bowl fucked around with this message at 10:23 on Apr 13, 2014 |
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pre:*QB: Kevin Kolb :( *HB: Adrian Peterson *HB2/FB: Marshawn Lynch *WR1: Calvin Johnson *WR2: Dwayne Bowe *TE: Greg Olsen *LT: Joe Thomas *LG: Ben Grubbs *C: Ryan Kalil *RG: Marshall Yand *RT: Joe Staley *DE: LaMarr Woodley *DT:Paul Soliai *DE: Charles Johnson *OLB: Anthony Spencer *LB: Patrick Willis *LB2: Paul Posluszny *OLB2: Lawrence Timmons *CB1: Darrel Revis *CB2: Leon Hall *SS: Dashon Goldson *FS: Eric Weddle *P: Brandon Fields *K: Nick Folk *KR: Jacoby Jones
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The Puppy Bowl posted:It's really quite incredibly early to say that. The run game is going to be just fine for the 5-9 games that Murray isn't injured.
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2010 would be an all time great minus one position. QB: Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow RB: CJ Spiller, Ryan Mathews, James Starks, Joique Bell FB: John Conner WR: Demaryius Thomas, Dez Bryant, Antonio Brown, Victor Cruz TE: Rob Growkowski, Jimmy Graham, Aaron Hernadez OT: Jared Veldheer, Bryan Bulaga, Trent Williams, Rodger Saffold, Russell Okung (Could kick Saffold inside to tackle) OG: Mike Iupati, Jon Asamoah C: Maurkice Pouncey DT: Geno Atkins, Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy DE: Greg Hardy, Jason Pierre Paul, Carlos Dunlap, Lamaar Houston LB: Daryl Washington, Sean Lee (IR), Navorro Bowman, Brandon Spikes CB- Joe Haden, Sam Shields, Alterraun Verner, Devin McCortney (I know he's a safety but yeesh there's too much talent at safety from this year) S-Kam Chancellor, Earl Thomas, TJ Ward, Eric Berry  K/P:: Zoltan Mesko KR: Trinton Holliday That defense would make the 2007 Patriots cry for their mothers.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:It's really quite incredibly early to say that. If there's one thing we've learned about today's NFL it's that you can't win without a run game
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The Seahawks literally just won the Superbowl. It was in all the papers.
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Yeah they could never have won without Lynch's 15 carries for 39 yards
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Intruder posted:Yeah they could never have won without Lynch's 15 carries for 39 yards They don't get that far without Lynch and you know it
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:They don't get that far without Lynch and you know it If you replace Lynch with a league average RB they have a very good chance of making the Superbowl anyway I think that's a less outrageous argument to make than saying that you'd be better off with a top flight RB and Kevin Kolb at QB than Cam Newton and a Murray or Vereen Besides, my point was that you don't absolutely have to have a great running game to be an elite or championship team. Just because the latest team to win the Superbowl had a great RB doesn't mean it's a prerequisite
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Well they didn't exactly win off of Wilson's arm either but whatever.
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Hm if only there were something other than the running backs or quarterback that could explain Seattle's dominant performance
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Intruder posted:If you replace Lynch with a league average RB they have a very good chance of making the Superbowl anyway You also don't need a great QB or Great WRs or a Great O-line or a great pass rush or a great secondary but you do need to have at least some of those traits. QB is more important than RB but running the ball is still an huge part of building a good team and if it's a weakness it'll get exploited.
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Intruder posted:Hm if only there were something other than the running backs or quarterback that could explain Seattle's dominant performance "Defense wins championships" might be the only platitude spouted by sportscasters that has a lick of truth.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:You also don't need a great QB or Great WRs or a Great O-line or a great pass rush or a great secondary but you do need to have at least some of those traits. QB is more important than RB but running the ball is still an huge part of building a good team and if it's a weakness it'll get exploited. Kevin Kolb stretches the limits of "QB isn't best" pretty far though
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With that line and those receivers Kevin Kolb would look like Tom Brady. Well, maybe an early era Tom Brady..
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So then what does Cam look like with his receivers? AJ Green, Julio Jones, Torrey Smith, Julius Thomas And having to spy Cam every play gives Vereen or Murray an easier time of it running the ball
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I'd figure having Calvin Johnson around makes running the ball a bit easier too. 2011 is better overall but not better on offense. It's all moot anyway, I still think 2003 beats up on everybody.
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2002 will be hard to top for worst lineup. QB: David Garrard RB: Clinton Portis, Brian Westbrook WR: Deion Branch, Donte Stallworth, Jabar Gaffney TE: Jeremy Shockey T: Bryant McKinnie, Chester Pitts G: Andre Gurode, LeCharles Bentley C: Melvin Fowler DE: Julius Peppers, Dwight Freeney DT: Brett Kiesel, Albert Hanyesworth, John Henderson LB: Will Witherspoon, Scott Fujita, Larry Foote CB: Lito Sheppard, Quentin Jammer S: Ed Reed, Roy Williams, Chris Hope P: Dave Zastudil K: Jeff Chandler Well, you've got a great pair of ends and running backs!
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1998 is pretty great but if you put Takeo Spikes on the team I guess you'll never make the playoffs
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2011 is real nice and everything but Chris Conte and Rahim Moore in your safety spots? barfffff Go deep all day.
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Miko posted:2011 is real nice and everything but Chris Conte and Rahim Moore in your safety spots? barfffff It doesn't matter if they go deep. Sherman and Peterson aren't losing their man.
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Chichevache posted:It doesn't matter if they go deep. Sherman and Peterson aren't losing their man. Especially since aside from Megatron there's no one to really be afraid of 
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1992 produces an amazing team. QB: Brad Johnson, Jeff Blake RB: Edgar Bennett, Amp Lee FB: Sam Gash WR: Jimmy Smith, Carl Pickens, Robert Brooks TE: Mark Chmurra C: Jeff Christy G: David Dixon, Jay Leeuwenburg T: Bob Whitfield, Leon Searcy DT: Chester McGlockton, Keith Hamilton DE: Robert Porcher, Marco Coleman ILB: Levon Kirkland, Robert Jones OLB: Eddie Robinson, Ed McDaniel CB: Troy Vincent, Ashley Ambrose S: Darren Woodson, Darryl Williams K: Jason Hansen KR: Michael Bates P: Pumpy Tudors Pumpy never played a down as far as I can tell, but I could not resist the name.
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Holy balls, QBs/RBs in that draft  I actually went and looked to make sure you weren't just picking lovely players on purpose for some of those spots. You really weren't... other than Pumpy. God drat.
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That's actually a very good defense. That offense though...eugh.
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So this weekend I'll pick up football mogul and figure out if it'll work for us. Next Sunday or Monday I'll close this thread and open the voting thread and we can start voting on rosters. Gerneral consensus seems to be: Roster 14 offensive players, determine base personnel, * for base personnel. 15 defensive players, base and nickel?, * for every down. KR, K, P, LS if available Yes to Free Agents and SD. 3 years of experience Any last second arguments? Good idea. VVVV Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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Can we expand defensive rosters to 15? That way we could field a dime DB as well. There's definitely enough offensive firepower to warrant running a dime. (Or even a quarter but finding 7 decent DBs in a draft may be pushing it.)
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Kalli posted:2002 will be hard to top for worst lineup. I always forget that Westbrook was drafted in 2002. I keep thinking 2003, but it 2002 when he and the Eagles' super bowl secondary got drafted. I'd consider replacing one of the cornerbacks with Sheldon Brown. Take your pick, really. Badfinger fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Apr 18, 2014 |
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:Jammer was pretty solid for a long long time Yeah. He was never a world beater, but he was drat good for several years before a rather sudden drop of a rather steep cliff. Was it injuries, or just age? I mean he is 34 now, but I really don't know the whole story there.
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Fenrir posted:Yeah. He was never a world beater, but he was drat good for several years before a rather sudden drop of a rather steep cliff. Was it injuries, or just age? I mean he is 34 now, but I really don't know the whole story there. Age. He just wasn't fast enough to keep up with anyone anymore. I was hoping the Chargers would convert him to Strong Safety and pair him up with Weddle, because Jammer is still a great tackler and really good against the run, but financial reasons wouldn't allow that. He was the longest tenured Charger on the roster after Tomlinson left, and I really wanted him to end his career here. Really awesome, standup guy.
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This is what I came up with for 2005. Still not sure about Darren Sproles; I might have slotted him over Braylon Edwards but I figured having a solid return guy wouldn't hurt. 2005 QB: Aaron Rodgers HB: Frank Gore FB: Ronnie Brown WR1: Roddy White WR2: Vincent Jackson TE1: Heath Miller WR3/TE2: Braylon Edwards LT: Jammal Brown LG: Logan Mankins C: Chris Myers RG: Evan Mathis RT: Michael Roos DE: Justin Tuck DE: DeMarcus Ware NT: Jay Ratliff OLB: Shawne Merriman MLB: Derrick Johnson MLB: Lofa Tatupu OLB: Trent Cole CB: Carlos Rogers CB: Corey Webster Slot Corner: Antrel Rolle S: Nick Collins S: Kerry Rhodes P: Dustin Colquitt K: Mike Nugent KR: Darren Sproles Beer4TheBeerGod fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Apr 21, 2014 |
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Only Stafford can find a way to mess this offense up 2009 draft QB- Mathew Stafford HB- LeSean McCoy Arian Foster WR1- Michael Crabtree WR2- Mike Wallace TE- Jared Cook WR3/TE2- Percy Harvin LT- Sebastian Vollmer LG- Louis Vasquez C- Alex Mack RG- Andy Levitre RT- Michael Oher DE- Brian Orakpo DE-Michael Johnson DT- B.J.Raji Ricky DT-Jean-Francois OLB- Clay Matthews MLB- James Laurinaitis MLB- Rey Maualuga OLB- Brian Cushing CB- Vontae Davis CB- Lardarius Webb Slot cb- Jason McCourty S- Jairus Byrd S- William Moore K- Ryan Succop P- Thoms Morstead KR-Percy Harvin
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