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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > EuroPol: abide by D&D values or don't post
 
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drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

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V. Illych L. posted:

NATO is poo poo, though, Putin also being poo poo doesn't change that.

How is nato poo poo?

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drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

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V. Illych L. posted:

oh gee i dunno maybe by being the effective enforcer of the currently lovely global status quo

Since Kosovo it's not even really a defensive pact anymore. It's just a huge military club for the US and friends. It's an enormous military organisation with an unclear mandate and a tendency to act as more of less of a blunt instrument for US foreign policy interests. Europe gets to not pay for their defense in exchange for generally toeing the overall US agenda. At best you can say that it limits aggression from actors like Russia, but even that is a pretty difficult claim to back up.

So, yeah, NATO is pretty poo poo. It's a cold-war institution that has to find ways to justify itself long after the cold war has passed. It's a relic of the era of the American superpower, which is what Putin really broke with his flagrantly illegal annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

America is sorta still able to do whatever the hell it wants, and I don't see how Putin annexing a state that isn't in nato has anything to do with it. Also isn't this actually pushing a lot more states into defensive alliances with America? How is that a bad thing for american superpower?

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drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

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Cat Mattress posted:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35453589

Who's job was it to watch these children, how do you loose 38 percent of the children in your care?

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drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

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It's amazing how terrible Europe is at this, it makes American immigration look like a well oiled machine.

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drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

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GaussianCopula posted:



But that will probably not happen anytime soon, because Muslims today see the hijab as an important symbol of resistance against Western culture/values.

As a real life muslim I have to disagree here, friend.

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