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Orange Devil posted:Hey so I'm a European right, and I just read your OP, and this guy sounds alright. So how do I vote for him? Can you vote for the Prime Minister of the Netherlands?
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May 1, 2014 15:39
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Orange Devil posted:Nope, and that's quite bad. Really? I wish we didn't have to vote for the President so we could concentrate on less personality focused elections, like parliamentary elections.
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May 1, 2014 17:54
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vegetables posted:As a UK person I'm very frustrated that there doesn't seem to be a party which is both opposed to further austerity in the EU and broadly supportive of NATO's presence in Eastern Europe in light of recent developments in Ukraine. It seems to me that these two qualities are both essential to coherently supporting social justice in Europe over the next term, but I have a sinking feeling that there aren't very many people who agree. Yeah it's the same in France.
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May 5, 2014 17:17
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IceAgeComing posted:This is exactly what I think. Its why I don't like many of the "mainstream" left parties in the UK: the Socialist societies at my uni have universally talked about how the Ukrainian government are "Fascists" which is just wrong. It seems as if some in the left are stuck in a cold-war mentality when anything involving Russia is concerned; with Russia being good and the west being bad. NATO's foreign policy is sometimes dodgy: but not in relation to Ukraine... I don't really want to vote for Putin apologists either. World fuktd indeed. I guess I could vote for the Greens. Edit: lol from the Left Party website:  Their editorial basically says "Nato is as bad as Putin". At least they're not strictly pro-Putin I guess. Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 19:43 on May 5, 2014 |
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May 5, 2014 19:30
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Who said anything about a war with Russia? Do you guys really believe NATO is going to go to war with Russia. I don't believe it's just a "war between oligarchs", do you just handwave the whole 'rah rah nationalism' angle Putin is going for? Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 11:07 on May 7, 2014 |
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May 7, 2014 11:01
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mortons stork posted:I'd say western Europe should overall be very concerned over what NATO does in the region because Russia is, after all, on our doorstep, not the US. While diplomatic relations between most EU countries and Russia have been generally lukewarm, Italy has for a while trying its best to hold a friendly diplomatic line towards Russia because of favorable industrial/energy deals, so any NATO/EU declaration w/r/t Ukraine constantly puts pressure on our diplomacy to choose between toeing one line or another. I think there's certainly a lot of people who wish the whole thing just flew under the radar and didn't cause them any unnecessary headaches in foreign policy. I don't think anyone wants to be dragged in a war with a regional power over the interest of the superpower an ocean away, and a lot are already likely losing money because of the whole mess. Seems pretty lovely to just let Putin's invasion go unpunished because we don't want to lose our sweet energy deals. I'm against war, but at least we should do something similar to Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions.
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:I guess we should thank our lucky stars that there are no such threats. The Russian boogie man simply don't exist anymore, it's a propagandist fantasy living on amongst conservatives in a post cold war EU. Putin is more of a conservative/nationalist's wet dream than their nightmare. Also talking about fantasy when it's happening right now in Ukraine on a major scale is pretty surreal. I think it's relevant to the election, i.e the Left Front tract I received this morning said something like 'let's get out of Nato' Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 14:41 on May 7, 2014 |
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May 7, 2014 14:32
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Apparently they lumped the French living abroad with the Ile de France constituency for the European elections, Here are the names of the lists for the IDF/French people abroad: 1. Regions and Solidarity: autonomist parties (Brittany, Corsica, etc repping the land of my forefathers  they're allied with the Greens on the European level).2. Us Citizens: some dude talking about job creators (right wing) 3. Solidarity Europe (I'm not sure what's their deal  )4. Europe Ecology (Greens) 5. Cannabis Without Borders, Stop Prohibition (  smoke weed everyday)6. Europe Degrowth (degrowth movement) 7. UMP (right wing fuckers) 8.Federalist European Party (federalist party duh) 9. Royalist France in Europe (Monarchist party  )10. Together for a Fair Europe (don't know) 11. UDM supported by Bayrou and Borloo (centre right) 12. Esperanto Common Language (esperanto party )13. Communists (some far left party, not the actual Communist Party) 14. Rise Up France! Against the System and Against Extremism! (eurosceptic party, gaullist, I think buddying up with Farage's less fascist group) 15. Blank Vote Citizens ( party that wants blank votes to be counted alongside the non-blank ones) 16. Feminists for Solidarity in Europe. 17. Independent Ecologist Alliance. 18. Choosing Our Europe (Socialist Party) 19. Left Front-Stop the Europe of Finance-People First! (Left Front: Mélenchon and Communist Party) 20. True Democracy (Direct democracy party) 21. For a Free Europe (I have no idea) 22. UPR-IDF 23. Europe From Marrakech to Istanbul (wants to include Mediterranean countries in Europe, but not Switzerland because of their xenophobia, good luck you crazy bastards  )24. Worker's Struggle (Trotskyist) 25. Europirates (ugh) 26. New Deal (splinter from Socialist Party) 27. Europe of Citizens (right wing green party) 28.European Party. 29. Life Force (Christian fundie party) 30. Fuckers National (Fascists) Fun fact: the head of list went in Crimea to assess the validity of Putin's referendum 31. New Anticapitalist Party (trotskyist, Besancenot the mailman is head of list) Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 00:39 on May 11, 2014 |
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Nektu posted:Maybe its lost in translation, but what does that even mean? Exactly.
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May 11, 2014 11:00
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What's with British politicians and those huge cockades. That woman is so angry she looks like she's turning into a tomato, she's probably trying really hard not to vomit racist obscenities.
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May 18, 2014 10:20
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Such loving scum. I hate my country so much right now. Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 17:10 on May 21, 2014 |
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May 21, 2014 16:58
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Sounds like he wants to make a comeback.
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May 22, 2014 07:58
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I'm pretty sure it's the principle of the thing. Edit: it's the same in France. Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 20:15 on May 22, 2014 |
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May 22, 2014 20:11
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Junior G-man posted:Welp, it's looking like Wilders/PVV will end up with -1 seat, not a lot of people who expected that. Including myself. Was he leading in the polls? Edit: a quick look at wikipedia tells me he wasn't, what happened here, it looks like he lost 9% points in the polls between April and May? In any case I wouldn't expect the same in France since the far right has been leading the polls very recently. Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 00:10 on May 23, 2014 |
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May 23, 2014 00:02
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I'd say she is, but she keeps her father around for some reason.
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May 23, 2014 09:32
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Just voted, the scrutineers were loudly complaining about "Europe  ", you'd think they should stay neutral, or at least wait until the two voters present then had voted.
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May 25, 2014 09:29
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Teron D Amun posted:there were many local elections too in Germany this Sunday so the rise in participation isn't that surprising I don't understand why France didn't couple its local elections with the European ones, they happened like a month ago.
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May 25, 2014 19:28
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GlennFinito posted:Exit polls from Same for the FN in France.
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May 25, 2014 20:08
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indicate that the Danish Peoples party (Dansk Folkeparti, a right nativist party) is going to gain many seats 
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namesake posted:This is frustrating, I can't start drinking until the first results are in... Hit the bottle and don't stop until you see the light of day.
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May 25, 2014 21:36
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IceAgeComing posted:why can't young angry working class kids vote for the far left like they used too? they at least campaign on broadly good things! Young angry working class kids are afraid of Muslims, or can't be arsed, or both.
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May 25, 2014 23:06
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loving hell, when are the final results posted for the French constituencies? I don't want to wake up to this poo poo tomorrow morning.
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May 26, 2014 01:06
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The fn got first in my town, followed by the Left Front (all left wing parties combined did more than the fn, thankfully) Apparently the only people who vote in seine saint denis are the fascists Edit: I'm really scared for the regional elections next year, turnout is dramatically low for those as well, so I expect the departemental parliaments to be filled and headed by fascists. Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 08:35 on May 26, 2014 |
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May 26, 2014 08:32
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GlennFinito posted:Eurogoons did your right-nationalist party also distance themselves from other countries' right-nationalist party when asked why other right-nationalist were gaining ground across Europe? Yup.
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May 26, 2014 08:38
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dilbertschalter posted:I've heard it's the opposite (as in, turnout was up). 40% in 2009 vs 43% in 2014.
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May 26, 2014 09:30
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Also the fact that Sarkozy veered really hard right to get elected "la droite décomplexée" (the right without hang-ups) basically pushed far right rhetoric into the mainstream. Copé is a tremendous shite so I'd be glad if he fucks off. And gently caress Mitterand for propping up the FN in the first place. He wanted it to have a spoiler effect on the right, well good job you dead gently caress. Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 10:54 on May 26, 2014 |
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May 26, 2014 10:52
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Well I guess if you're pinning for the coming of the Troisième Empire it's a pretty great result.
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May 26, 2014 11:13
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Results from France are almost there, just waiting for the Ile de France constituency to be complete now (they coupled it with the French abroad votes and those take forever to arrive, don't think it will change much.)
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May 26, 2014 11:44
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http://elections.interieur.gouv.fr/ER2014/FE.html This is the people we're sending to Brussels. I'm sorry.
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Baron FU posted:And if they don't they are dumb Nazi babies and their vote doesn't matter anyway since they are dumb and don't know their vote doesn't count. gently caress EU gently caress "Democracy" and gently caress this dumb thread. Their vote doesn't matter because they don't have a majority.
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May 26, 2014 14:33
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It's less fun when you're in the middle of the shitstorm.
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May 26, 2014 14:52
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Mofstok posted:Terrible damage in your one-dimensional socialist perspective on life. You've got your head so far up your own arse you cannot see the wood for the trees: the current system is not working. Cultural integration is a massive failure, the very state of the EU (economically and socially) attests to that fact. Then again, I don't expect you to actually be able to deal with it. Enjoy your leftist apocalypse. What does cultural integration entail?
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May 27, 2014 13:30
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None of them are socialists.
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Reminder that the FN list headed by Daddy Lepen got 29% of the vote in the South-East constituency. After he made the ebola comments. Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 09:31 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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Le Pen and co haven't been able to make their European group, because they don't have MEPs from enough countries (7), so back to the Non-Inscrits they go. Newly elected FN MEP Joelle Bergeron was asked to stand down after she came out in support of giving immigrants the right to vote, instead she left the party and became an independent MEP. She joined Farage's European group. The Sweden Democrats, one of the major allies of Le Pen, decided to join Farage's group. The Italian Five Star Movement also joined Farage's group, now renamed Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy.
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Pesmerga posted:What he said was that just bombing everyone wasn't going to fix the underlying problems, we need a political solution in Syria and means of countering radicalisation. I don't see how it has to be one or the other.
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Pesmerga posted:Concern that it could lead to further radicalisation and bombing doesn't do much to counter ideologies. I don't see how the region could get more radicalized.
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Pesmerga posted:Radicalisation can also include domestic audiences in the UK and France. It's a whole other problem, countering jihadist propaganda is key here, amongst other issues.
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Pesmerga posted:It's part of the same problem, when policies in the Middle East as a great recruitment tool at home Not all policies are the same, you can't compare the bombing campaign against ISIS, who commit massacres and terrorist attacks, to the Iraq War. Countering this kind of idea is important.
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