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I feel it really nails the long-form story and character development arcs that most shows are going for now but better. The payoffs are so good and rewarding and only available if you're already invested in the show. Rewatching the last season right now and there's too many examples - Freddy being the guy who saves Don from loving up his last chance at work, Sally's relationship with Don and going for the nerdy boy over the jock, ^ Bobby's relationship with Betty, how understandably bitter she is yet uncomprehending of why, Peggy and her tenant's boy , etc. There's not any twists or shocks like Breaking Bad or anything, though, I agree.
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robot roll call posted:Lane's death was pretty shocking! The great thing about that was that you knew it was coming. It was shocking how grim it was, especially when they showed it on screen.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 01:28 |
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"This is where I grew up" to me was a moment. That and the start of Season 7 where Don doesn't appear until halfway through the episode, but then you realise that he was actually giving the monologue at the start through Freddy was another.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 01:35 |
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We derive our shock from our office lawn mower mishaps
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 01:59 |
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Also journalists getting shanked by homemade spears.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 02:10 |
The popularity of Mad Men decreased as Don Draper's and the 1960's perceived coolness did as well. Plus the near two year gap didn't help. It's a much better show than Breaking Bad though and routinely leaves me much more shocked than that show ever could. And I really like Breaking Bad.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 02:18 |
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I also think Mad Men is better than Breaking Bad, but I think Breaking Bad is a pretty dumb and overrated show so These long gaps do suck balls, though.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 02:38 |
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twistedmentat posted:I have a theory that we've entered an era of TV where people watch shows for moments and Mad Men doesn't have shocking character deaths, or huge major twists that make people go HOLY poo poo! Pete probably has loads more relatives that can be killed in train derailments, bus explosions, helicopter crashes, slip on ice and fall into the bear pit at the zoo, and so on.
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Sash! posted:Pete probably has loads more relatives that can be killed in train derailments, bus explosions, helicopter crashes, slip on ice and fall into the bear pit at the zoo, and so on. The end of the series will be an Unbreakable-style montage of Pete causing all the major catastrophes of the 1960s. And it'll end with him saying. "You could say that I was... a mad man"
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:The end of the series will be an Unbreakable-style montage of Pete causing all the major catastrophes of the 1960s. And it'll end with him saying. "You could say that I was... a mad man" November 22, 1963. JFK has been shot. The gunman is at large. We zoom in to the window of the book depository where Pete Campell is holding a department store rifle, the barrel still smoking. "Chip n' Dip, Mr. President."
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robot roll call posted:November 22, 1963. JFK has been shot. The gunman is at large. We zoom in to the window of the book depository where Pete Campell is holding a department store rifle, the barrel still smoking. MLK has just been shot. The camera pans around 180 degrees from his balcony to a window on the opposite side of the street, where Pete stands. "I'm your king". It was a shameful, shameful day.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 06:56 |
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You have to include chip n dip in that. He's the chip n dip killer.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 15:12 |
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The rifle has to be fired (in Pete's face).
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 15:50 |
I really hope it never is.
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robot roll call posted:November 22, 1963. JFK has been shot. The gunman is at large. We zoom in to the window of the book depository where Pete Campell is holding a department store rifle, the barrel still smoking. This is too perfect for Weiner to NOT have as the ending.
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twistedmentat posted:I have a theory that we've entered an era of TV where people watch shows for moments and Mad Men doesn't have shocking character deaths, or huge major twists that make people go HOLY poo poo! for me mad men doesn't have those shocking moments of depression and instead replaces them with great character moments that actually leave me hopeful for their future. It's really a feeling I prefer after a decade of soul crushing intensity in prestige dramas
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# ? Apr 1, 2015 00:59 |
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twistedmentat posted:I have a theory that we've entered an era of TV where people watch shows for moments and Mad Men doesn't have shocking character deaths, or huge major twists that make people go HOLY poo poo! I thought the way they handled Joan sleeping with Herb the Scumbag Car Salesman was a moment. The way Don tried to talk her out of it, followed by her going through it intercut with that incredible Draper pitch and then showing that Don had been too late all along was just gut-punch after gut-punch.
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I'm sort of surprised that Don was so against the idea, given that he fired Sal for not doing the same thing (albeit with a much bigger client).
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Steve2911 posted:I'm sort of surprised that Don was so against the idea, given that he fired Sal for not doing the same thing (albeit with a much bigger client). Maybe he had remorse from firing Sal.
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Steve2911 posted:I'm sort of surprised that Don was so against the idea, given that he fired Sal for not doing the same thing (albeit with a much bigger client). I'm sure it's a combination of gender poo poo and the fact that he likes Joan way more.
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Cojawfee posted:Maybe he had remorse from firing Sal. I think it might be more than Don feels a sort of paternal responsibility to Joan, like he would for Peggy.
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Don has loads of issues with women and sexuality, he learned and grew up in a whorehouse! One of the girls became his defacto mother and then slept with him, that is why he empathized w/ Joan. That situation is very different than his relationship w/ Peggy, Betty, or Megan, He knew what he was doing by trying to talk her out of it ... an excellent bit of storytelling. I love this show.
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# ? Apr 1, 2015 18:39 |
I'm looking forward to and will deeply miss the opaque trailers the coming episodes. I kinda hope the finale's trailer is just a black screen or something.
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# ? Apr 1, 2015 18:41 |
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Miss Lonelyhearts posted:Don has loads of issues with women and sexuality, he learned and grew up in a whorehouse! One of the girls became his defacto mother and then slept with him, that is why he empathized w/ Joan. That situation is very different than his relationship w/ Peggy, Betty, or Megan, He knew what he was doing by trying to talk her out of it ... an excellent bit of storytelling. I love this show. But it wasn't empathy so much as it was trying to protect her, which isn't a subservient role.
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Max posted:I'm looking forward to and will deeply miss the opaque trailers the coming episodes. Are there links to these trailers anywhere? YouTube's come up empty. Also not sure if it's been mentioned but AV Club's been doing a week of Mad Men articles, and some of it's really great. Their essay on Don's character is a cracking read.
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# ? Apr 1, 2015 19:00 |
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Steve2911 posted:Are there links to these trailers anywhere? YouTube's come up empty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJDj2ZFR-kI This is pretty typical - just a wonderful mish-mash of big dramatic line readings, single lines taken from the middle of conversations, and silent shots of characters in mundane situations.
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Steve2911 posted:Are there links to these trailers anywhere? YouTube's come up empty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdhBE6LfYQ8
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Steve2911 posted:Also not sure if it's been mentioned but AV Club's been doing a week of Mad Men articles, and some of it's really great. Their essay on Don's character is a cracking read. They nailed Don's character to a T.
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And on that note, the new thread is up... see ya there: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3710867
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