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Dan7el posted:Never saw Scrapped Princess. Now I have to go look it up. Scrapped Princess does a pretty funny thing about magic words in the first episode or two, so I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
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Apr 24, 2014 04:02
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I read all of the manga that is available after watching episode 2 and it sort of bothers me that Toru is the intelligent part of the group in the anime, in the manga he is just going with the flow and wants to be useful even though he's really dumb. I'm glad that they decided to go without the heavy incestish vibe even though they are both orphans but I wish they kept in how badly his 'sister' wants to stuff him and sell him. Everything will make a lot more sense when the anime covers what the manga did, basically.
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Apr 24, 2014 04:49
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Liver Disaster posted:I read all of the manga that is available after watching episode 2 and it sort of bothers me that Toru is the intelligent part of the group in the anime, in the manga he is just going with the flow and wants to be useful even though he's really dumb. I'm glad that they decided to go without the heavy incestish vibe even though they are both orphans but I wish they kept in how badly his 'sister' wants to stuff him and sell him. Everything will make a lot more sense when the anime covers what the manga did, basically. Uhh.no. He is just as competent in the manga, what the hell are you talking about. He still takes the lead and comes up with the group's next moves just as much as in the anime.
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Apr 24, 2014 07:18
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The show totally feels like an RPG game but it's done so well that it don't matter. This might be an LN, but all the worldbuilding comes so naturalistically and you don't need a billion lines of exposition. The Gillette group seem like fairly cool guys, they have enough brains behind them that you can look into their motives.
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Apr 24, 2014 12:07
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I like the extra effort put into the monsters. The unicorn in ep. 1 was oddly grotesque, and in ep. 3, I at least wasn't expecting the wolf-things to suddenly shoot lightning. I guess Tooru didn't either. It's nice that I don't know exactly what to expect just from hearing the name of a thing. I have no clue what a Dragoon is going to be.
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I'm kind of curious as to why their driver doesn't wear pants. No one else is running around wearing that kind of thing, so why her?
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Apr 24, 2014 21:12
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Yes_Cantaloupe posted:It's nice that I don't know exactly what to expect just from hearing the name of a thing. I have no clue what a Dragoon is going to be.  
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Apr 24, 2014 23:06
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Yes_Cantaloupe posted:I like the extra effort put into the monsters. The unicorn in ep. 1 was oddly grotesque, and in ep. 3, I at least wasn't expecting the wolf-things to suddenly shoot lightning. I guess Tooru didn't either. It's nice that I don't know exactly what to expect just from hearing the name of a thing. I have no clue what a Dragoon is going to be. He mentions the lightning when he tells Chaika to the speed up, so he knew exactly what was up. I don't know what he expected to do after he jumped off.
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Apr 24, 2014 23:45
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Yes_Cantaloupe posted:It's nice that I don't know exactly what to expect just from hearing the name of a thing. I have no clue what a Dragoon is going to be.
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Apr 24, 2014 23:54
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Lurking Haro posted:He mentions the lightning when he tells Chaika to the speed up, so he knew exactly what was up. I don't know what he expected to do after he jumped off. I pretty sure he was just trying to be enough of a decoy to allow the others to escape. Better one death than three.
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Lurking Haro posted:He mentions the lightning when he tells Chaika to the speed up, so he knew exactly what was up. I don't know what he expected to do after he jumped off. I think the lightning was actually from the car - he had Chaika perform an improper shutdown in order to fry the surrounding area. Unfortunately, it then turned out that an Orthros can store lightning and return it to sender.
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Chaika totally feels like a D&D campaign with the DM frantically trying to keep the party on track by teleporting wizard holograms in, while Chaika fucks around with her magic powers and the sister goes on a derail telling ghost stories. I love it. Hopefully the hero and her dragoon join the party.
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Grim Up North posted:Chaika totally feels like a D&D campaign with the DM frantically trying to keep the party on track by teleporting wizard holograms in, while Chaika fucks around with her magic powers and the sister goes on a derail telling ghost stories. Man, now I wish the creators of this show were closet fans of that horrible D&D cartoon from the 80s. And the antagonists are... reasonable and intelligent? I guess we'll meet the actual bad guys later on. Also, it's neat that there's crazy magical stuff going on that even the main characters don't understand, that's way better than all of the over-explaining you usually see in fantasy anime.
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Apr 28, 2014 00:07
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Grim Up North posted:Chaika totally feels like a D&D campaign with the DM frantically trying to keep the party on track by teleporting wizard holograms in, while Chaika fucks around with her magic powers and the sister goes on a derail telling ghost stories. All the bullshit they went through to get the coffin into that manor is exactly the sort of thing I'd expect a gaming group to do.
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MMania posted:Man, now I wish the creators of this show were closet fans of that horrible D&D cartoon from the 80s. paragon1 posted:All the bullshit they went through to get the coffin into that manor is exactly the sort of thing I'd expect a gaming group to do. Thanks for these posts. I was on the fence about this show until reading your posts and seeing the latest episode, and those statements are entirely correct about this show, whether the writer and director intended it or not. Approaching this show as though it's a dnd session with a bunch of people just loving around is exactly the mindset I was missing, and Chaika being a character made by that one guy you know who's weird but still kind of fun to be around justifies her. She's a total nerd bait mishmash that makes no sense, but is executed well enough that she's still fun. Also the various magical wildlife are interesting, and dragoon lady looks cool. Hopefully she'll join the party.
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You're correct on this one, she's not versed in moonspeak so she speaks in broken Japanese which is quite adorable in it's own right. Of course she thinks in her native tongue so is actually coherent. The OP needs to add in that Akari (It hasn't been made super obvious, but it will next episode) is a total brocon, but she loves the 'hardass sapper' side of him, not the unemployed slacker that he's portrayed as occasionally in the first few episodes. She also has a fascination with taxidermy, especially when it involves her beloved Tooru. Edit: Dan7el posted:I have to admit, the whole idea of the saboteur thingy is pretty interesting. They say the magic words and they become these uber-warriors. I'd like some backstory on that. Also, are the two really brother and sister? I get the idea they're not flesh-and-blood siblings. From what's released of the manga, the Iron Blood transformation is a family trait, not a technique inherently trained into all saboteurs. I think of saboteurs as more like breaching specialists but it appears their skillset also includes infiltration and assassination. HiveCommander fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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MMania posted:And the antagonists are... reasonable and intelligent? I guess we'll meet the actual bad guys later on. Lurking Haro posted:He mentions the lightning when he tells Chaika to the speed up, so he knew exactly what was up. I don't know what he expected to do after he jumped off. HiveCommander posted:From what's released of the manga, the Iron Blood transformation is a family trait, not a technique inherently trained into all saboteurs. I think of saboteurs as more like breaching specialists but it appears their skillset also includes infiltration and assassination.
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Dan7el posted:
Exactly what happened, because he was simply getting them off the tail of the carriage, which as a large object would have a rather hard time dodging lightning. As for competence, if I recall correctly he has a long running battle with them and manages to kill quite a few in the printed versions, before basically getting run down and exhausted, so possibly laziness and time constraints on the part of the animation staff? Dan7el posted:
Though it's possible they'll toss up a background episode later on, I'm pretty sure the anime just ran over the segment where their past is mentioned. Still, in a way the truth is actually more depressing than that. No, they're not blood-related at all. They were both raised in a village whose explicit purpose was to raise saboteurs for the war. It took in orphans and children sold to the village for money by their parents and they were all raised together, which is where the whole family thing comes from. Incidentally, I'm pretty sure the war ended before Toru and Akari were sent out, so they've been stuck with a singular learned skill set with little use in a peaceful world. There's more to Toru's apathy than that, but that's the gist of it.
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Lord Koth posted:Exactly what happened, because he was simply getting them off the tail of the carriage, which as a large object would have a rather hard time dodging lightning. As for competence, if I recall correctly he has a long running battle with them and manages to kill quite a few in the printed versions, before basically getting run down and exhausted, so possibly laziness and time constraints on the part of the animation staff? Oh, fer gently caress's saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake  I really liked the first two episodes because of the intelligent, proactive protagonists, dynamic fight scenes and the really sparse, confident direction overall. Episode three left a bad taste in my mouth largely because it didn't have much of any of that (alright, I guess it was still pretty fast-paced). Is the manga worth checking out? (I know it was an LN series originally)
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It definitely seems the antagonists are going to realize their employers want the body parts for themselves to rule the world or something. I think they were kind of hinting at it in the last episode.
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Lord Koth posted:[...] so possibly laziness and time constraints on the part of the animation staff? It's only running for 12 episodes and they probably wanted to show the Dragoon woman at the end of the episode.
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Lurking Haro posted:It's only running for 12 episodes and they probably wanted to show the Dragoon woman at the end of the episode. Only 12? Scrapped Princess was 26 right? It's a bit odd that it's not getting the same treatment judging by how similar the two have been so far.
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ViggyNash posted:Only 12? Scrapped Princess was 26 right? It's a bit odd that it's not getting the same treatment judging by how similar the two have been so far. Yeah, unless they're doing a split cour that sounds crazy. I mean, it's three episodes in and they only have a hand. Can they even collect the rest of his pieces in 9 more episodes without it feeling rushed as hell? Scrapped Princess meandered a bit in the middle but you wouldn't have been able to tell the story in 12 episodes. I'm a little worried now.
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Since the LN is still running (Volume 9 was releases this month) they're probably only covering the first plot arc or so. That or we'll get a terrible original ending.
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Autonomous Monster posted:Oh, fer gently caress's saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake If you can read Japanese, maybe. The english manga scanlation is pretty goddamn slow. Next episode will probably catch us up to it.
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Lurking Haro posted:Since the LN is still running (Volume 9 was releases this month) they're probably only covering the first plot arc or so. That simultaneously makes sense and reduces my enthusiasm considerably. Well, decent chance at a second season at least unless it bombs, I guess.
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Grim Up North posted:Chaika totally feels like a D&D campaign with the DM frantically trying to keep the party on track by teleporting wizard holograms in, while Chaika fucks around with her magic powers and the sister goes on a derail telling ghost stories. Aren't there several classic fantasy anime that really are based on the creator's long-running D&D (or other similar game) sessions? Just saying it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility. ninja edit: Thinking specifically of Record of Lodoss War, but I'm pretty sure it's not the only one.
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Slayers also got started that way iirc.
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I read up to the latest chapter in the Chaika manga. While it has its merits, the show does action scenes much better and the director made the extremely wonderful decision to cut down Akari's brother complex. I was honestly shocked how much the manga plays that poo poo up compare to the show. So big props to them for that.
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Episode 4: Still fun. I'm glad they got a kitty- I'm looking forward to when they encounter one of the body part-toting heroes and, upon asking for said body part, are simply given it. "Oh that thing? I always thought it was pretty gross. Please dispose of it properly."
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Only thing I didn't like about the episode was that the dragoon turned into another little girl. And even that I don't really care too much about, I just don't want this (pretty good so far) show to devolve into dumb harem junk. 
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glomkettle posted:Only thing I didn't like about the episode was that the dragoon turned into another little girl. And even that I don't really care too much about, I just don't want this (pretty good so far) show to devolve into dumb harem junk. Pretty much this. I'm not ecstatic about the addition of another loli to the cast but they have been pretty tasteful so far, they could have turned that bath scene into fanservice but it wasn't at all so I have hope that they won't go that route, or if they do they will play it for comedy more than anything else. Toru continues to be surprisingly intelligent and his "sister" is hilarious, the way she deadpanned out that overwrought forbidden love story was great.
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glomkettle posted:Only thing I didn't like about the episode was that the dragoon turned into another little girl. And even that I don't really care too much about, I just don't want this (pretty good so far) show to devolve into dumb harem junk. This made me groan a bit. I would have liked it better if she still looked like Dominica, but took on her (his? its?) own personality. There's something that I haven't been able to put my finger on that has been irking me since the first episode, and I just figured it out: the background art is really drab. The characters and important focal bits all look great, but everything else is rather plain and unimaginative. I still like the show, but visually, especially compared to world of Scrapped Princess, the setting doesn't look all that interesting.
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I much preferred the character of mature Dominica to cat-lady Dragoon, but I can see the meta-reasons for changing her. If Saber joined the cast, she'd be vying with the protagonist for leadership of the party. I would, however, have preferred if the dragoon was a dude, or less of a harem-bait character design. Judging by the 360 degree scar on her neck, It does seem like Chaika Gaz has died at least once. I have a feeling that 'Daughter of Gaz' is a symbolic title bestowed on reanimated corpses. Some outside force is reanimating the dead, giving them unholy purpose and a magical trinket, and using them as pawns.
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I love that Chaika continues to use her Awesome Sniple Rifle for the most mundane poo poo like trying to cook or heating tubs. It kind of gives more to that "D&D group just loving about" feeling. I could see the practical reasons behind it but it's certainly not what that thing was designed for.
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ViggyNash posted:This made me groan a bit. I would have liked it better if she still looked like Dominica, but took on her (his? its?) own personality. Well, the dragon didn't want to be constantly tied to it's dead master so getting rid of the appearance and personality of Dominica seems fitting. Doesn't justify the dragon turning into a loli though.
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Huh. Given what's out of the manga so far, I expected this episode to be very, very different, so now I'm completely and utterly stumped about what's going on in the manga side of things. I mean, the current scanlations end right before they fight Dominica, so here on I'm largely clueless, but the setup was almost entirely different.  Still a solid episode and getting a shape shifting dragoon seems like a fun addition to the team.
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Yeah, I'm starting to get the feeling that Sakaki Ichirou just wants to keep making the LN version of the one really awesome D&D campaign he played in highschool.
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