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The_White_Crane posted:"No-one in the world can possibly beat ~onee-sama~; he's so great!" Onee-sama would be for a sister, not a brother. You want onii
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MrCinos posted:Wow at such negativity in the thread. So far the first three episodes were quite good. This is the only anime this season which caught my interest. Admittedly, only because I've read a few volumes of the original. I looked through this thread because I was curious if anyone would actually say anything positive about this show, and I was not disappointed. What a bad show. Usually really bad shows have the caveat "but I still would have liked it when I was 15," (like Love Hina or something) but I think that even my 15 year old self would have thought this was dull and been creeped out by the main character's sister. I will admit that the main character crosses a line where he's such a blatant Gary Stu that it becomes kind of funny.
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Apr 27, 2014 02:16
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The_White_Crane posted:"No-one in the world can possibly beat ~onee-sama~; he's so great!" Pretty much this. Geez, now dude is even agreeing with his sister that he is so awesome. He even invented a technique that could possibly upend the power structure of society if word ever got out but he's so awesome that he already thought of that. If feel like if this were a better series those two would be the villains. And I have a feeling we're going to see a lot of the "we're in love.....just kidding!" gag in this series. Also, what is with the character design for that school nurse?
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Apr 27, 2014 06:48
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It's amazing that this has turned out to be even worse than the LNs, and the LNs were basically terrible dross. (Yes, I read them, but I seem to read a lot of crap, so eh.) The LNs are padded to all hell, but without a lot of the stuff that is in the padding a whole bunch of things they're leaving in the anime make no sense whatsoever. As to whether or not they're villains, well... they pretty much are to an extent? I mean, the author probably doesn't intend for them to be viewed that way but: 1) He's a walking talking nuclear weapon. 2) He happily disintegrates people on a regular basis so long as it's not more troublesome to do so than leaving them alive. 3) He has no emotions except sibling love for his sister. The one time he actually shows significant emotion is cackling like a villain as he basically massacres a bunch of people who tried to harm his sister. 4) The reason he lacks emotions is because his mother and his aunt did illegal experiments on his brain to try and make him a better magician. His mother literally programmed him to love only his sister. 5) His aunt is leader of one of the magic clans. This specific clan is viewed as insane and monstrous by all the other clans. She views Gary Stu as a monster kept under control by a thin leash. 6) He's used his nuke powers at least three times. Once on an invading army. Once of a fleeing army. Once on a naval flotilla and entire port city. God knows how many people he's killed with just this one ability. 7) Related to 4) and how hosed up his mother and aunt are, his sister has a superpower where she freezes people's minds so they're in a permanent state of stasis. So basically his one connection to humanity is a loving horrifying person herself. 8) She literally freezes a whole bunch of people who were mind controlled. Who her brother had just disarmed. Of course she didn't know they'd been mind controlled and she felt really bad about it afterwards blah blah blah and thanks to ~magic~ she didn't kill them but still. Her first choice for people who she hates? Human icicle. Honestly the easiest way to understand the dude is to ask "What does anime Doctor Manhattan look like?" and then subtract all humanity and all hope of a family connection giving him any. The only hope for this show is if the action scenes end up being awesome.
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Apr 27, 2014 08:34
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The strange thing is, I'm actually enjoying watching this, at least enough that it's a decent way to kill half an hour in the evenings. It's sort of an education in depth-plumbing, y'know? I doubt that'll sustain itself for an entire season, though.
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Apr 27, 2014 10:09
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SorcerousHam posted:It's amazing that this has turned out to be even worse than the LNs, and the LNs were basically terrible dross. (Yes, I read them, but I seem to read a lot of crap, so eh.) The LNs are padded to all hell, but without a lot of the stuff that is in the padding a whole bunch of things they're leaving in the anime make no sense whatsoever. Seem like I will keep watching then. Even though until now it seemed more boring.
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Apr 27, 2014 12:04
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The_White_Crane posted:I doubt that'll sustain itself for an entire season, though. ...Or two entire seasons. This thing is getting 26 episodes. On a related note, I can't believe I have to wait until July for the OST.
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Apr 27, 2014 12:15
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There's some serious anti-communist social commentary in this series. "The higher income brackets are made up of people whose skills are crucial to society" and "They don't know that using magic required long years of study and training, not just ability?" were good little gems that I took out of this episode.
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Apr 27, 2014 13:14
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The best part about Episode 4 is where they deemed it worthy enough to not have the actual OP or ED because it was super important and they needed the extra time yet the entire episode was people talking about how awesome the MC was.
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Ep 3. Did the sister literally just murder him cause he was talking about other girls?HiveCommander posted:There's some serious anti-communist social commentary in this series. Seeing as magic seems dependant on those computer thingies it seems like the rich can afford the best stuff thus cementing their superiority over the proles. That is except for the MC who is the word's greatest gear creator but doesn't mass market it or make any for his friends because ???
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HiveCommander posted:There's some serious anti-communist social commentary in this series. Vehemently trashing anything to the left of Ayn Rand like it was some mental extreme concept is not something you see often in anime. Most fun part of an otherwise bad episode by a mile!
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Apr 27, 2014 17:27
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Namtab posted:Ep 3. Did the sister literally just murder him cause he was talking about other girls? The one highlight of this show so far is the sister's ridiculous complex being overplayed to the point where it's basically self-parody. Like in 4 where she repeatedly freezes the room whenever he talks about another girl, and you see another character tapping on the ice in her drink glass. Now if only I could believe the writer actually intended it to be parody and not just all out niche appeal. Probably dropping this show.
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Apr 27, 2014 17:43
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Has there ever been an ADTRW discussion about the whole sister romance thing that is so prevalent in Japanese media? Bizarre fetishes aren't uncommon, but I'm really not sure why this particular one is so widespread. It's basically a cultural fetish.
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Apr 27, 2014 17:59
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Shakugan posted:Has there ever been an ADTRW discussion about the whole sister romance thing that is so prevalent in Japanese media? Bizarre fetishes aren't uncommon, but I'm really not sure why this particular one is so widespread. It's basically a cultural fetish. I believe it relates to how so few of them have one.
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Apr 27, 2014 18:03
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Shakugan posted:Has there ever been an ADTRW discussion about the whole sister romance thing that is so prevalent in Japanese media? Bizarre fetishes aren't uncommon, but I'm really not sure why this particular one is so widespread. It's basically a cultural fetish. Occasionally. The conclusion seems to be that for the socially shut in group that's the primary market for non-children's anime in Japan (remember, the word Otaku actually means "house"), associating with other women is outside their comfort zone but associating with family is not. I can't personally speak for if that's correct, though.
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Apr 27, 2014 18:04
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Haha, for a series that is ostensibly about how elitism is bad, it's pretty fun how the bad guys' stated goal is to change the fact that the upper echelons of society are entirely composed of magic users. At least I think. I wasn't paying much attention. Also lol, Tatsuya was super into that one dude's body at the start of the episode.  [tIMG]http://lpix.org/1665542/[HorribleSubs] Mahouka - 04 [720p].mkv_snapshot_01.01_[2014.04.27_10.33.25].jpg[/tIMG]
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Bremen posted:Occasionally. The conclusion seems to be that for the socially shut in group that's the primary market for non-children's anime in Japan (remember, the word Otaku actually means "house"), associating with other women is outside their comfort zone but associating with family is not. I can't personally speak for if that's correct, though. Hmm. Related to that, I find it absolutely hilarious how many shows there are about shut-ins seemingly without any prospects in life, and how they are secretly the most amazing thing ever. It's pandering to the audience so hard that it's kind of embarrassing.
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Shakugan posted:Has there ever been an ADTRW discussion about the whole sister romance thing that is so prevalent in Japanese media? Bizarre fetishes aren't uncommon, but I'm really not sure why this particular one is so widespread. It's basically a cultural fetish. Sisters are girls who live in your house. That seems to be the logic. The low birth rate probably helps matters. From a more psychological point of view, the idea is related to "I'm know I'm a nice guy, but no one gives me a chance." They think the reason they don't have a girlfriend isn't because they're incredibly boring people, but instead because no girl has been forced to spend enough time with them to realize how nice they are. Therefore someone you grew up with is logically going to love you (ie: the childhood friend fetish), and a sister even moreso since they're "basically a childhood friend who won't move away".
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Apr 27, 2014 18:24
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Does the sister get less insufferable as the plot moves along? I don't think i can take more 20 minutes of ~Nii-sama~.
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Apr 27, 2014 20:39
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In your heart, you already know the answer to that question.
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Apr 27, 2014 20:41
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This is the lamest loving power fantasy in that the main dude seems content to fly under the radar about being wizard god instead of owning everyone all the time.
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Namtab posted:This is the lamest loving power fantasy in that the main dude seems content to fly under the radar about being wizard god instead of owning everyone all the time.
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Namtab posted:This is the lamest loving power fantasy in that the main dude seems content to fly under the radar about being wizard god instead of owning everyone all the time. Oh, you seem to have missed the point. Tatsuya is so cool and detached that he only reluctantly shows off that he is a wizard god when circumstances force him into it. The reluctance is the key which is supposed to keep him from being a conceited braggart. Of course, there is no real reason why some dumb school fights where Miyuki isn't involved would force him to reveal such important secrets. Well, aside from how if Tatsuya didn't show off and then explain why he was so awesome there would be no reason for people to worship him like a god. I guess it sure is a good thing that a magic high school filled with magicians mostly from families full of magicians doesn't have a single person who knows anything about magic cancelling. Otherwise showing that stuff off might have been kind of dumb, huh?
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Stall_19 posted:Also, what is with the character design for that school nurse? Well you see, she's got to be a totally hot and flirtatious older woman that the Gary Stu rejects at all turns in favor of the romantic interest character (who in this happens to be his sister).
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Apr 28, 2014 02:00
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Yo so when does the blatant racism and/or Japanese nationalism kick in because that poo poo is never not hilarious to me.
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Apr 28, 2014 02:34
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I saw ep. 4. 1-3 were like, meh Gary Stu fantasy. 4 was baaaad. It really was people slobbering over the MCs dick and his sister was the worst offender, which is awful. That said, part of me wants to see how much worse it gets.HiveCommander posted:There's some serious anti-communist social commentary in this series. e:Also like the dig at political movements in general. "They use magic even though they're against it. Hypocrites  "Amstrad posted:Well you see, she's got to be a totally hot and flirtatious older woman that the Gary Stu rejects at all turns in favor of the romantic interest character (who in this happens to be his sister). Rangpur posted:Yo so when does the blatant racism and/or Japanese nationalism kick in because that poo poo is never not hilarious to me. They've already started with the "Someone( Postal Parcel fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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Rangpur posted:Yo so when does the blatant racism and/or Japanese nationalism kick in because that poo poo is never not hilarious to me. It may have started in the most recent episode when they were talking about blanche and about how the people behind the people were trying to tear the social/economic/military structure of Japan down. Or I am misreading what they said, but that is how I saw it.
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In the manga and LN(I'm still only up to the magic duel with Hanzo and am probably going to stop reading there), it's noted that the counselor looks at him a weird way and he thinks she might be trying to be flirtatious with him. I was spoiled on this, but she's actually a ninja and is there for a secret purpose I forgot. I still like the series but this was certainly the weakest episode.
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WickedHate posted:In the manga and LN(I'm still only up to the magic duel with Hanzo and am probably going to stop reading there), it's noted that the counselor looks at him a weird way and he thinks she might be trying to be flirtatious with him. I was spoiled on this, but she's actually a ninja and is there for a secret purpose I forgot. From what I've read of the manga, the spoilered part is spot-on. She was being flirtacious to try and control him (what straight guy wouldn't do anything that a provocative older woman wanted unless their brain was re-wired so they're incapable of any emotion aside from platonic love for their sister?)
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Shakugan posted:Has there ever been an ADTRW discussion about the whole sister romance thing that is so prevalent in Japanese media? Bizarre fetishes aren't uncommon, but I'm really not sure why this particular one is so widespread. It's basically a cultural fetish. Nerds have a tough time meeting and interacting with girls. Add Japanese culture on top of that and JP nerds have an ever tougher time. But a sister (and childhood friends, and people in your same cultural club) is someone who is already used to you so you don't have to do the  . Notice how in the typical fantasy the sister is the one that takes the initiative anyhow. Besides, most of them don't have a sister so they don't realize that living with one of those beasts is not sexy at all (yes, I do have 2 sisters. And they kinda look like my dad, ahahahaha)Like, you wouldn't believe how unbelievably shy around girls most young (non-drunk) JP dudes are. trucutru fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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Apr 28, 2014 08:48
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is this worth watching ironically or is it just complete garbage
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It's pretty bad. I would recommend only watching it with friends who you can make fun of it with.
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The show might be bad but a thread about the historical and sociological origins of a lot of anime tropes and trends from WW2-present day might be pretty cool, so long as we made a big effort for it not to degenerate into casual racism and tvtropes.txt-style shitposting.
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Pierson posted:tvtropes.txt-style shitposting. Wait, so TV tropes also has its very own text file creed-type bullshit now ? I mean, I dislike the site for the retarded (and completely unwarranted) self-importance that a good chunk of the users carry as if it was a badge of pride of some sort, but I didn't know it had devolved into full-on shitlord wretched hive. Oh, well. There's a word that came to me when thinking about this thread, but since I'm somewhat unfamiliar with this aspect of USA/UK humor, I thought I'd ask: Is this what is normally known as roasting? On show-related news: Finally powered through the first 3 episodes. I have now confirmed that this thing has worse pacing than Index. Hardly the best achievement, I'm sure, but coming from Madhouse, it feels a tad bit disappointing.
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Now that I think about it, no one at any point learns anything about magic from the magic high school curriculum. Tatsuya comes pre-loaded with his special range of bullshit abilities, but anyone else uses some combination of figuring stuff out on their own, family specialties, and/or slobbering over Tatsuya's cock until they reach enlightenment.
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Wark Say posted:Wait, so TV tropes also has its very own text file creed-type bullshit now ? It's less of a wretched hive than it used to be (because of the death of troper tales, fetish fuel and the banning of some paedophiles due to goon mockery) but it's still a website where people categorise everything that happens, no matter how bland, into "tropes" and then don't bother to examine how the use of said tropes works. It's like taking a radio to bits, labelling each piece, but not knowing how each piece interacts to form a working radio. Back to this, I've been reading the first light novel. I don't know whether it's the baka-tsuki translation (which is admittedly more than I could do, but the english used is appalling) but somehow the MC is even more obnoxious in the books. Also it's implied that he's aware that his sister fancies him but doesn't want to make an issue out of it. Serious Frolicking posted:Now that I think about it, no one at any point learns anything about magic from the magic high school curriculum. Tatsuya comes pre-loaded with his special range of bullshit abilities, but anyone else uses some combination of figuring stuff out on their own, family specialties, and/or slobbering over Tatsuya's cock until they reach enlightenment. Well the deal with the class 1 and 2 system is that only the class 1s are actually physically taught magic, whilst class 2s are just given access to books and rooms and left to get on with it. This results in the class 1s becoming more adept at magic as time goes on, thus furthering the divide Namtab fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Apr 28, 2014 |
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tvtropes.txt isn't really just single lines of awful loving opinions like gamers.txt or bitoins.txt is (although it certainly has that too). It's a dude proudly showing off twenty paragraphs outlining a novel - nay, a whole quadrilogy - of their space-opera epic including cosmology, character breakdowns from prologue to finale, loving descriptions of technology and entire reams of 'world-building', without ever putting down a single chapter of the actual story, because writing is really loving hard you guys. There's a great quote from Larry Niven I like to whip out that used to be about amateur sci-fi authors but applies to TVT just as well; they don't want to be writers, they want to have written. The PYF thread is a little long in the tooth but there's some amazing examples there of people who can spend months writing thousands of words without writing anything at all.
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It does, however, have the greatest opening line of any novel. The dickgirls opened fire.
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Pierson posted:tvtropes.txt isn't really just single lines of awful loving opinions like gamers.txt or bitoins.txt is (although it certainly has that too). It's a dude proudly showing off twenty paragraphs outlining a novel - nay, a whole quadrilogy - of their space-opera epic including cosmology, character breakdowns from prologue to finale, loving descriptions of technology and entire reams of 'world-building', without ever putting down a single chapter of the actual story, because writing is really loving hard you guys. So many tropes, not a single line written Phobophilia posted:It does, however, have the greatest opening line of any novel. Different troperwork, although that one was much more horrifying. Anyway, the troperthread is here although it's a lot blander than previous troperthreads.
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