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AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

KOTOR 2 shits all over the force and was retconned years ago because George Lucas got butthurt.

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Jun 5, 2006

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Smellrose

Alexzandvar posted:

The entire reason star wars is successful is because it combines all the basic fantasy story telling elements into one neat package.

Stuck up dumb film critics hate the originals but love the prequels (roger egbert wtf?) because the originals had some sort of basic human elements people can understand and identify with rather than dumb wooden space aliens.

In episode's 1-3 everyone but anakin and that one senator is either gay or asexual. In 4-6 we see leia in a bikini, a brother and sister kissing, han and leia kiss in the belly of a giant worm and so on.

lol did ebert really hate the originals but like the prequels? wtf the prequels are loving turbo garbage

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Jun 5, 2006

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Smellrose

AlmightyBob posted:

KOTOR 2 shits all over the force and was retconned years ago because George Lucas got butthurt.

this is still my favorite star wars thing

NutritiousSnack
Jul 12, 2011

AlmightyBob posted:

KOTOR 2 shits all over the force and was retconned years ago because George Lucas got butthurt.

Yeah that's what made it great, it literally pissed all over the idea of Stars Wars and explained why in great detail why Yoda/Ben are loving assholes.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
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tranime scholar posted:

lol did ebert really hate the originals but like the prequels? wtf the prequels are loving turbo garbage

Critics gave bad reviews in the 70s/80s cause they didn't know what the gently caress at first

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Jun 5, 2006

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Smellrose

Effectronica posted:

Critics gave bad reviews in the 70s/80s cause they didn't know what the gently caress at first

ok i can understand that kinda but did they still hate it in retrospect? i know a lot of people hated 2001 when it came out but it's pretty much universally acclaimed nowadays

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

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Effectronica posted:

Critics gave bad reviews in the 70s/80s cause they didn't know what the gently caress at first

Star Wars did end up getting nominated for Best Picture, though, which in retrospect it should definitely have won.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Ignoarints posted:

the expendables was better

the expandables was a bad 80s movie fan fic

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Effectronica posted:

Critics gave bad reviews in the 70s/80s cause they didn't know what the gently caress at first

ebert actually defended him giving episodes 4-6 lovely scores at the time because he says the acting was a bit bad and the story wasn't intellectually stimulating

Because as we all know 1-3 have top tier acting and deep intellectual narratives

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

tranime scholar posted:

ok i can understand that kinda but did they still hate it in retrospect? i know a lot of people hated 2001 when it came out but it's pretty much universally acclaimed nowadays

People like it a lot. SciFi fans hate it more than critics do probably, barring the sort of person who clucks about genre cinema

NutritiousSnack
Jul 12, 2011
Star Wars IV and V are on his great movies list actually.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

Alexzandvar posted:

ebert actually defended him giving episodes 4-6 lovely scores at the time because he says the acting was a bit bad and the story wasn't intellectually stimulating

Because as we all know 1-3 have top tier acting and deep intellectual narratives

LMAO

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005

AlmightyBob posted:

KOTOR 2 shits all over the force
whats this mean

reallivedinosaur posted:

Han Solo is no longer canon.
i know that laugh

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice
So none of that Yuzong Bong poo poo and Boba Fett died in the sand vagina? Sweet.

reallivedinosaur
Jun 13, 2012

Ogdober subrise! XDDD

Alexzandvar posted:

The entire reason star wars is successful is because it combines all the basic fantasy story telling elements into one neat package.

Stuck up dumb film critics hate the originals but love the prequels (roger egbert wtf?) because the originals had some sort of basic human elements people can understand and identify with rather than dumb wooden space aliens.

In episode's 1-3 everyone but anakin and that one senator is either gay or asexual. In 4-6 we see leia in a bikini, a brother and sister kissing, han and leia kiss in the belly of a giant worm and so on.

The only one I remember being gay was Sam Jackson but I haven't watched them in a while now.

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

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Same as it ever was


Smellrose

Alexzandvar posted:

ebert actually defended him giving episodes 4-6 lovely scores at the time because he says the acting was a bit bad and the story wasn't intellectually stimulating

Because as we all know 1-3 have top tier acting and deep intellectual narratives

Lol

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Ebert gave ep4 4 out of 4 possible stars. :huh:

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

reallivedinosaur posted:

The only one I remember being gay was Sam Jackson but I haven't watched them in a while now.

The prequels have almost no love/sex/implications of any emotion other than anger at all. In 3 when Anakin and Padme are finally in true love and married and poo poo padme dresses like a loving Mormon house wife and they both speak cringe worthy love dialogue poo poo you would find on some libertarians okcupid profile.

The only person who seems like a not a robot is the senator dude from alderan who has a wife he seems kinda concerned about for 3 seconds in the last 20 minutes of episode 3.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

reallivedinosaur posted:

The only one I remember being gay was Sam Jackson but I haven't watched them in a while now.

C3PO and R2D2 are gay as h*ck

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Jun 5, 2006

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Smellrose
wait i thought there weren't any gays in star wars

AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

the light says doesn't let you love, like it's part of the jedi philosophy not to have emotions

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

AlmightyBob posted:

the light says doesn't let you love, like it's part of the jedi philosophy not to have emotions

so is Luke going to get excommunicated from the force for kissing his sister and then giving han solo a high five for loving her?

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

tranime scholar posted:

wait i thought there weren't any gays in star wars

that was the tyranny of the EU

now 3po, r2, luke, obi-wan, Yoda, jabba, boba fett, and half the background characters can be out and proud

AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

Alexzandvar posted:

so is Luke going to get excommunicated from the force for kissing his sister and then giving han solo a high five for loving her?

I didn't really read any of that poo poo after elementary school but I guess Luke reformed the Jedi and made them not loving stupid.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

AlmightyBob posted:

I didn't really read any of that poo poo after elementary school but I guess Luke reformed the Jedi and made them not loving stupid.

the whole jedi can't love/show emotion thing is just some dumb poo poo Lucas made up so he didn't have to write emotions for like 20 characters.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

Alexzandvar posted:

so is Luke going to get excommunicated from the force for kissing his sister and then giving han solo a high five for loving her?

Luke managed to reconcile light and dark at the end of Jedi, which is how he won.

Fireless Phoenix
May 4, 2012

by Lowtax

Alexzandvar posted:

the whole jedi can't love/show emotion thing is just some dumb poo poo Lucas made up so he didn't have to write emotions for like 20 characters.

QFT. If anything, jedis should be all lovey-dovey, happy hippies since the dark side is giving into your anger/hate.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib
Basically, light=Spock, dark=McCoy, and Luke=Capt. Kirk

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
okay I give up fire all star wars into the sun

Machai
Feb 21, 2013

rocket_man38 posted:

Pretty much ya. No more Boba Fett being cool.

OH gently caress, is Boba Fett dead now? Disney killed Boba!

Berious
Nov 13, 2005

Effectronica posted:

there were some cool books with lando as a space libertarian
When did he make Goonfleet?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Machai posted:

OH gently caress, is Boba Fett dead now? Disney killed Boba!

Falling into a big pussy is a one way tri[

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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AlmightyBob posted:

KOTOR 2 shits all over the force and was retconned years ago because George Lucas got butthurt.

shouldnt it have been reinstated though because disney bought star wars (making anything lucas said irrelevant) and TOR is out right now and treats both KotoR and KotoR 2 as canon plus since it is constantly expanding technically counts among the "games" going forward that are canon
:goonsay:

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe

Effectronica posted:

C3PO and R2D2 are gay as h*ck

What the gently caress is h*ck. Where do you think you are?

c3p0 was a huge flaming human being, but r2d2 hosed tons of bitches, I'll hear nothing otherwise.

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose

Effectronica posted:

that was the tyranny of the EU

now 3po, r2, luke, obi-wan, Yoda, jabba, boba fett, and half the background characters can be out and proud

oh, right. for some reason i thought george said that, turns out it was just bioware being their usual retarded selves

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Fojar38 posted:

shouldnt it have been reinstated though because disney bought star wars (making anything lucas said irrelevant) and TOR is out right now and treats both KotoR and KotoR 2 as canon plus since it is constantly expanding technically counts among the "games" going forward that are canon
:goonsay:

lmao you think an abortion of an MMO like SWTOR should decide if somethings canon. Bioware should be banned from every touching star wars again, Disney should file a law suit against them for making a game so poo poo it destroyed any chance of anyone taking star wars games seriously ever again.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Alexzandvar posted:

lmao you think an abortion of an MMO like SWTOR should decide if somethings canon. Bioware should be banned from every touching star wars again, Disney should file a law suit against them for making a game so poo poo it destroyed anyone taking star wars game seriously ever again.

lol

Fireless Phoenix
May 4, 2012

by Lowtax

Alexzandvar posted:

okay I give up fire all star wars into the sun

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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tranime scholar posted:

oh, right. for some reason i thought george said that, turns out it was just bioware being their usual retarded selves

i couldve sworn it was lucas who said "no faggots in my universe" (paraphrasing)

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Oct 10, 2007

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This is just proof that the minds of people are nothing but cash driven trash now days. A flat out psychotic decision to just ignore the majority of 30 years of stories all in the name of the dollar sign. I guess this means no Mara Jade heh? Then you can GO SCREW YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really disgusting Disney.

lol so many loving nerds crying about their space waifu.

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