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I am pretty confused though - why are people angry about this? I mean I read the Heir to the Empire trilogy (and a few other SW books that were terrible) when I was like 13 and didn't really think about whether it was "official" or not, it was a cool story with some characters I knew and liked. Like, there are a bunch of different King Arthur stories, that can't all be made consistent with one another, but who cares? Thomas Malory is good and so are Alfred Lord Tennyson and T.H. White.
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Effectronica posted:Critics gave bad reviews in the 70s/80s cause they didn't know what the gently caress at first Star Wars did end up getting nominated for Best Picture, though, which in retrospect it should definitely have won.
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Apr 25, 2014 23:55
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Bolian Blues posted:All old material is now part of the Legends™ brand, so they can continue to keep selling all the old poo poo like TOR but say it doesn't count Is that like the WWE Legends brand? Because Hulk Hogan is still canon in that universe.
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Apr 26, 2014 00:43
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cuckold cleanup posted:how will the star wars canon affect me only if you let it
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Apr 26, 2014 02:01
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I believe the high quality of the original trilogy can be explained in four words: "Alec Guinness Harrison Ford"
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Apr 26, 2014 15:37
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CommonTerry posted:Rogue Squadron was good. KOTOR was never good. So am I an acceptable person for not having played any Star Wars games beyond Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight? In my defense I played the HELL out of that game.
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Apr 26, 2014 20:30
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Lumpy the Cook posted:Now we just need to wait for Paramount to announce that everything but the Abrams movies are 'Legends' or whatever and then the lynchings can finally start No they already took care of that in the first movie by saying "this is an alternate universe, some things will be similar, other things will be different, but since it's an alternate universe it doesn't undo the previous stories" or whatever. Of course, in Trek they jump between universes and timelines all the time, so who knows... Alexzandvar posted:the joke is star trek 2009 was a better star wars movie than the prequals ever were Likewise Galaxy Quest is the best Trek movie.
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Apr 26, 2014 20:32
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etalian posted:remember all the cheesy FMV from jedi knight? Don't tell me this isn't canon anymore!! 
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Apr 26, 2014 22:58
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I don't care if it's canon, all I know is that I freaked the gently caress out when we started flying around the asteroids when I went on that ride at age 7.
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Apr 26, 2014 23:57
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What he actually said was "Darth Thicky" and "Darth Thinsanius," i.e. he wanted a fat/thin comedy duo of Sith Lords.
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Apr 27, 2014 00:00
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No way this is canon Terry Crews played FOOTball, not BASKETball
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Apr 27, 2014 03:24
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DoctorStrangelove posted:Samuel Leroy Jackson's lightsaber in the films had "Bad Motherfucker" inscribed on it. This obviously means that Pulp Fiction is canon in the Star Wars universe. actual ridiculous movie trivia: Pulp Fiction and Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion are set in the same universe edit:  
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Apr 27, 2014 03:27
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Frackie Robinson posted:Is this still canon? Well, I should have read your warning first. No surprise that guy was a critic for the National Review, the magazine for people who are well-educated and believe both that they have good taste and that blacks and whites should have remained segregated.
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Apr 27, 2014 05:52
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Fucker posted:[15:23] <@Lord_Emperor> I wonder if you could sue LFL. If there is some legitimate case. Not saying I will, but it will be interesting to know. What the hell does this even mean? Like, how are the books invalidated? In what sense is @Culator using the word "invalidated" in this conversation? Parallax Scroll posted:Isn't this decision more out of practicality than anything else? They're starting to make new movies after Return of the Jedi, and it would be stupid to try and make them compatible with all that EU stuff. Much easier to just push all that aside and just make the new movies consistent with the old movies. Also, this. This is why no one wanted to touch Star Trek, because the Star Trek canon (i.e. all the TV shows and movies) represent like 900 hours of material and the fans all care VERY MUCH about what is "real" and what isn't. Star Wars was always supposed to be a single story with a beginning, middle, and end - it represents a a unified action (μία πράξις per Aristotle) and it represents the entirety of it. Star Wars is like the Iliad: the story starts after the war has been going on for some time already, and it concludes with much more of the war still to fight, but the characters have grown and developed and the plot has undergone many twists and turns.
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Apr 27, 2014 14:50
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nomadologique posted:you think homer's story was the only one set during the trojan war? greeks milked the absolute loving poo poo out of those characters and events. seriously it's no different from EU. playwright wracking his brains for a new play... oo oo god everything's been done, what should i do?... minor made-up character who met theseus one time along the road to athens! this is actually what they did after hundreds of years of the same poo poo. Yeah, and notice how nobody reads those other Trojan War epics anymore? When was the last time a HS English teacher assigned the Aethiopis or the Cypria? poo poo, those stories haven't even survived to be assigned, and I would bet serious drachmas that they were not all that good (much like Episodes I-III). As far as tragedies out of the Epic tradition, like the Ajax or Iphigenia at Aulis - each of those is a self-contained story, not a sprawling mess of fanservice. Moreover, the Greeks didn't give a gently caress about "canon" (unless you mean ὁ κανών, the guidelines for bodily proportions used by sculptors like Polyclitus, according to Pliny anyway) - take, as an example, how Aeschylus' Libation Bearers, Sophocles' Electra and Euripides' Electra are clearly in conflict with each other regarding the details of Orestes' return to Argos and the slaying of Clytemnestra, yet it's not the case that one was considered part of the "official" continuity and the others "non-canon." edit: I guess I'm trying to make 2 points: 1, that Star Wars is at its core a single story, the Luke/Vader/Han/Leia arc, and that all of the levels of detail inserted into the story through the EU (as well as the prequels, but that's a matter more of poor execution than bad ideas, since the Anakin > Vader > Anakin arc has some really compelling elements) are unnecessary, extraneous, and in some ways detrimental to the appreciation of what makes the original films good; 2, that if people can make money writing EU stories and making EU video games, and if other people are entertained reading EU stories and playing EU games, why should it matter if they aren't "official" in the first place if they're profitable and enjoyable? It's not when it came out that Lance Armstrong had been doping the whole time; no one ever thought Star Wars was real (right?). Apollodorus fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Apr 27, 2014 |
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Apr 27, 2014 17:22
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rocket_man38 posted:Citizen Kane of gaming. He's mentioned in Episode 3, so I would imagine so.
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Apr 27, 2014 19:38
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Chucat posted:"gently caress it we're not going to save the original sack of troy because we've got virgil's remake" - some noob in the library of alexandria I think it probably had more to do with the Peisistratid influence over the consolidation of oral poetry in the context of the Panathenaic Festival in the late 5th century, though I am biased in my assessment because at this point I've had two Homer teachers whose advisor was Greg Nagy. edit: Xenophon rules, without him we wouldn't have The Warriors.
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Apr 27, 2014 21:19
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Darth Decent Exposure Darth Cestuous (Luke's Dark Side title if he had turned at the end of ESB)
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Apr 27, 2014 21:33
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Darth Continence Darth Defatigable Darth Defensible Racist Viewpoint Darth Divisible, with liberty and justice for all
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Apr 27, 2014 21:36
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Cat Mattress posted:Darth Ininsanious A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far, Far Away nobody spoke Dutch. They maybe spoke, like, proto-West Germanic, but probably not. Then again "Yoda" is clearly derived from the Dutch "jood" meaning "jew," because Yoda's inverted syntax reflects the way some Yiddish-speakers (or their offspring) use English in informal contexts. Dr. Zoidberg is another example of that ("To induce vomiting, that was the solution! Everywhere it went.")
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Apr 27, 2014 21:41
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blowfish posted:It's the The Wrath of Khan of Star Wars Also, this: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Conan_Antonio_Motti#Naming_origins
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Apr 28, 2014 00:15
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...of SCIENCE! posted:i wonder how many years it will be before star wars threads aren't full of people parroting talking points from the redlettermedia reviews while acting like they made it up themselves I can't even tell what's my original thoughts about the movies and what comes from RLM. I guess my opinions are canon now?
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Apr 28, 2014 05:22
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Tsinava posted:I grew up in the Star Wars EU. I spent 20+ years immersed in it, knowing the how and why to everything that made up Star Wars. It was mine. SW knowledge was my (admittedly lame) super power. And now it's gone. I don't know anything more than anybody else who has seen the movies and it feels like... I don't know. Feels like I imagine a Jedi Master would feel if his connection to the Force just disappeared one day. Where did you pull this from?
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Apr 28, 2014 08:21
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I don't know, I just hope that at the end Adam Driver's character wakes up in bed next to Lena Dunham and he's been dreaming the whole time, because that's the only thing that would make Star Wars EU slaves angrier than they already are.
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Apr 29, 2014 18:13
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I don't care if he hates Star Wars, he's pretty much the number 1 reason I love Star Wars. If I were in his shoes I'd probably hate Star Wars too, though.
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Apr 29, 2014 18:25
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Eh, Palpatine's wrinkliness was contagious through the lightning bolts or whatever.
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