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I had a skitty as my partner so I know that they rock hard. Looking forward to this! 
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:You added an extra h in  I thought I took it out. It's fixed now.Grilox posted:I had a skitty as my partner so I know that they rock hard. Looking forward to this! 
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How Ingratiating! posted:Gates to Infinity and Sky are tied for my favorite PMD game. Gates for the story, Sky for the gameplay (but the story's also pretty great). I enjoy the supporting casts from both. I'm honestly surprised! I thought I was the only one who liked Gates's story. That said, as for why Skitty is Stupidly Hard Mode: Drifblim. For those who have played the game, here's some more explanations that only make sense in context: Unburden. Ominous Wind. Speed. Past that, Skitty has an incredibly shaky start given Explorers' penchant for stacking the early game with Fighting and Rock types, but the differences to the Super Effective equation mean that once it overcomes its slight lag in attack stats, Normalize becomes a boon instead of a burden, with the single disadvantage of never being able to stack multipliers. Incidentally, the STAB equation is part of the reason why Castform is so ungodly broken; it stacks multipliers on Weather Ball like nobody's business. EDIT: For some reason I was spouting wrong information. I thought STAB had a boost in the PMD games, but it's the same as always, the 150%/200% (with Adaptability) boost. That's still better than super-effective unless you're hitting a resistance, though. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 18:14 on May 1, 2014 |
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May 1, 2014 17:58
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KataraniSword posted:That said, as for why Skitty is Stupidly Hard Mode: Drifblim. For those who have played the game, here's some more explanations that only make sense in context: I've gone through as Skitty a lot, but never had her as a partner. I doubt she reaches Eevee levels of suicide in that role, though.
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How Ingratiating! posted:What about all the Agility users, too? I have ways for taking down the speed abusers. Anything that isn't Kecleon doesn't particularly scare me in that category. And who needs attack multipliers when you have pluses? The thing about what I mentioned is that it's a room effect move, and it stacks. It has a 10% chance of proccing per hit, though with the RNG and confirmation bias, that'll sure as hell start feeling like a 50% chance per hit once you're struggling to keep up with stupid balloons getting four attacks to your one with the equivalent of a Nasty Plot under their belt when you're only managing half damage on them no matter what you use. Without items, it's a nightmare. With items it's just a significant hazard to be aware of. Regarding that second part, it's not like those are mutually exclusive.  quote:I've gone through as Skitty a lot, but never had her as a partner. I doubt she reaches Eevee levels of suicide in that role, though. Of course not; she doesn't have Run Away. That said, she's like most of the other partners that lack a decent ranged and/or room-effect move: functionally dead weight. At least she's not actively detrimental like Eevee is, though. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 19:14 on May 1, 2014 |
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May 1, 2014 19:08
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But what if you're so strong, that half-damage is all it takes?  Lacking type coverage is kind of a pain, but that's why we have Babar.I've never had a partner that was dead weight. You must be thinking of escort missions with Truant Slaking. 
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Just wanted to say that you've driven the first purchase of this game due to the LP. ...or you WOULD have if some chucklefuck at Gamestop hadn't entered a trade-in of Explorers of Darkness as Explorers of Sky. But I'll have it next week! 
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May 1, 2014 23:11
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It's been a while since I've played this; is leveling up still an absolute bitch like it was in Rescue Red and Blue?
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May 1, 2014 23:17
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Funky Valentine posted:It's been a while since I've played this; is leveling up still an absolute bitch like it was in Rescue Red and Blue? In Sky, levelling is less important. The Experience curve is about the same as in all the other PMD games, but there's another mechanic in play later in the game that makes that curve less of a thing to worry about.  All in all, it's probably the easiest of the PMD games as a whole, even if Attract now properly works based on gender.
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What's the difference between your normal attack and Tackle, damage-wise?
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I wanna say the difference between the basic attack and Tackle is something like double damage with STAB, but I'm not sure. Skitty having a powered-up basic attack right from the start is still kinda helpful, though.
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May 7, 2014 22:25
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A basic attack will generally hit in the ballpark of 5-6 HP at this point in the game, and Tackle will generally do two to three times that damage, assuming you're hitting something that doesn't resist it. Against one of the Water/Rock types in the Beach Cave, you're looking at more like 6-7 HP per Tackle. (Of course, this is with a non-Skitty pokemon; I don't know if Normalize applies to the basic attack or not.) The gap will get much bigger as the game goes on; a basic attack won't typically do more than 30 damage to an enemy near endgame, but your moves will typically get stronger faster - I think one equation is additive while the other's multiplicative, but I can't be sure of that.
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KataraniSword posted:A basic attack will generally hit in the ballpark of 5-6 HP at this point in the game, and Tackle will generally do two to three times that damage, assuming you're hitting something that doesn't resist it. Against one of the Water/Rock types in the Beach Cave, you're looking at more like 6-7 HP per Tackle. (Of course, this is with a non-Skitty pokemon; I don't know if Normalize applies to the basic attack or not.)
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How Ingratiating! posted:Normalize turns the basic attack from non-typed to Normal type, so Skitty gets STAB on it. The type resistances apply to the Normalized basic attack, as well. Yeah, I can see Shedinja being an utter nightmare, in that case. Does it affect items, too?
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The EXP bonus for finishing off enemies with Moves is a good incentive for using them, plus a mechanic that hasn't been showcased yet.
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KataraniSword posted:Yeah, I can see Shedinja being an utter nightmare, in that case. Does it affect items, too? no it doesn't, which is why you should always have a healthy supply of rocks.
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Chapter 2: The New Guild Recruits (Part 1)   This is Wigglytuff's Guild. Then you have to train until you become a first-rate exploration team.  Isn't there something just a little odd about this place?Besides the giant pink bunny leering down at us?   I have to be brave. *: Pokemon detected! Pokemon detected!  *: Whose footprint? Whose footprint? *: The footprint is Phanpy's! The footprint is Phanpy's!   Babar trembles in place.  N-no. I have to be strong... *: Someone's with you! So get that stranger to stand up THERE!   They probably meant you, Michael. They said to stand up here.  (There's a grate covering the hole... It's made so that no one can fall through...) (Still, it's really strange... It looks like it will tickle my feet or...)*: Hey, you! Stranger!  *: Get on the GRATE!  *: Pokemon detected! Pokemon detected! *: Whose footprint? Whose footprint? *: The footprint is... The footprint is... Um...  *: What's the matter? Sentry? Sentry?!  *: What's wrong, Sentry Diglett?   Umm... Er... Umm... The footprint is... *: What?! MAYBE?!   B-but... it's not a footprint that you normally see around here...*: UGH! That's pretty crummy! Checking the footprints of visiting Pokemon... That's your job, ISN'T it, Diglett? Yes, but... I don't know what I don't know. What? Are they arguing?*: ...Sorry to make you WAIT.  *: Well, it's TRUE that you don't see any Skitty in these parts... But you don't SEEM to be bad...  *: OK, good enough! ENTER!    I'm so nervous! So jittery! But I'm glad we're finally allowed in. My heart's pounding, though... OK, let's go in.  Th-there's a hatch that leads underground here!      So many Pokemon! I wonder if they're all on exploration teams?*: Excuse me!     It was you two that just came in, right? Y-yes! I'm Chatot! ♪ I'm the Pokemon in the know around these parts! I am Guildmaster Wigglytuff's right-hand Pokemon! ♪ N-no! That's not why we're here! We want to form an exploration team... That's why we came. We want to be trained as an exploration team.  Wh-what?! Exploration team?  It's rare to see a kid like this want to apprentice at the guild. Especially given how hard our training is! Surely the steady stream of Pokemon that run away from our rigorous training proves how true that is!What is this, an exploration sweatshop?  Excuse me. Is the exploration team training that severe? What?! It's not true in the slightest! Our training program for exploration teams is as easy as can be!  Well, well, well! ♪ I wish you had told me up front that you wanted to be an exploration team! ♪ Hee-heeee! ♪ His attitude suddenly changed, didn't it...? OK! Let's get your team signed up right away. Follow me! ♪   Oh, anything wrong? Come on! Over here! ♪ Quickly, please! ♪  This is the guild's second underground floor. This is mainly where the apprentices work. Team registration is this way. Come along, please.    Wow! We're two floors under the ground, but you can see outside! Oh, please! Hush now! The guild is built into the side of a cliff. It's only natural that you would be able to see outside. Oh. On no account... I repeat, on no account should you be discourteous to our Guildmaster. Guildmaster! It's Chatot! ♪ I'm coming in! Guildmaster! I present to you two Pokemon who wish to join our guild as apprentices. Guildmaster... um... Guildmaster?   I'm Wigglytuff! I'm the guild's Guildmaster! You want to form an exploration team? Then, let's go for it! First we must register your exploration team's name! So tell me your team's name? Oh? Our team's name? We didn't think of that. I'm leaving the team name up to the thread. Post a name you like, 10-character limit, and whatever gets the most votes/the one I like the most will be Michael and Babar's exploration team name.  For now, we get a preschool pull-ups team name. It can be changed at any time, so the shame won't last forever.  "How could you, Michael?!" I mean... Team Pokepals! He headbangs in celebration.  Yeah... That's a good name! It suits us!He'd be overjoyed with Team AAAAAAAAAA. Babar is literally a puppy.  Registering! ♪ Registering! ♪ All registered...   Congratulations! From now on, you're an official exploration team! I present you with this in commemoration. Wigglytuff set down a Pokemon Exploration Team Kit!  Babar's hearing voices.  Yup. It's what every exploration team needs. Quick, open it up.  Babar opened the Pokemon Exploration Team Kit.  There was an Explorer Badge inside... And a Wonder Map... And a Treasure Bag! Yeah! There are all sorts of great items in here! That's your Explorer Badge! It's your official team identification! And there's the Wonder Map, which is a wonder of convenience! Finally, there's a Treasure Bag. It lets you carry items you find in dungeons. Your successes as an exploration team can lead to bigger and bigger space for your Treasure Bag. It's a very wonderful bag! ♪ Have a peek inside your Treasure Bag.Babar peered into the Treasure Bag. The Special Band was inside! A Lime Bow was also inside! Those two items are special. I'm sure they will help you on your adventures! ♪ Th-thank you! We'll do our best! Yup. But you're only apprenticing right now. So do your best... to train! We will!  Michael headbangs in solidarity.  We're a legit team now, go us! A little later...   This is your room! ♪  Babar bounces on the straw.  You will live here while you work for us. Things will start getting busy for you tomorrow! ♪ So rise early and start living up to our code! Don't stay up late. Get to sleep early tonight! ♪ That is all.    ...Oh, are you still awake, Michael? My heart's been racing all day over every little thing... But I'm glad I finally made myself come here. I thought Wigglytuff would be scary, but he seems pretty friendly. We're going to experience all sorts of things starting tomorrow, but I'm not very scared. In fact, it's the other way around. I'm super excited about the adventures we'll face! I'm feeling a little sleepy... Let's give it our all tomorrow. OK, Michael. Good night. (Um... Now I'm suddenly apprenticing at the guild...) (I gotta admit, it's pretty exciting to be in an exploration team. And it's fun to be friends with Babar...) (But first thing's first... Who am I? How did I turn into a Pokemon? How did I end up unconscious on that beach?) (I'm feeling sleepy too... Well, thinking about it won't help right now. I'd better focus on the guild's work for now... If I do that, well, everything should become clear eventually... I'll surely get to the bottom of this in time.)
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May 8, 2014 16:42
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How Ingratiating! posted:
I'm bad at naming things. Team Pi(n)kablu
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May 8, 2014 18:59
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Can we be Team YOOM...TAH please?
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May 8, 2014 19:15
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Stay as Team Pokepals.
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May 8, 2014 19:50
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I always name my team Team BlastCorps, even though I never use Blast seeds. This game has a lot of cute animations, like Chatot's metronome tail. I thought for the longest time, partly because I had played Gates to Infinity first, (anti-spoilers for stuff that doesn't happen?) that Wigglytuff turns out to be the vilain. Nope, he's just cool. Wigglytuff is a pretty cool character.
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May 8, 2014 20:17
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If we're sharing team names, my save file has the best one. Team Wizards Yo. 
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May 8, 2014 20:27
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I called myself Team Skybound when I first played. It fit quite nicely I thought, but I'm not too good with names anyway. So I'll just say Wigglytuff.
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May 8, 2014 20:33
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Team Fortress 2
Aesculus fucked around with this message at 20:45 on May 8, 2014 |
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May 8, 2014 20:41
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Charm Quake
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May 8, 2014 20:53
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MightyPretenders posted:Charm Quake Which would be 11 characters.
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May 8, 2014 20:55
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We've just met the worst character in the game and the best character in the game.
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May 8, 2014 21:00
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Lizard Wizard posted:Which would be 11 characters. Remove the space then.
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Strong Mouse posted:I'm bad at naming things. Team Pi(n)kablu This is good.
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May 8, 2014 22:07
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Team Normalize 
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How Ingratiating! posted:He'd be overjoyed with Team AAAAAAAAAA. Babar is literally a puppy. Fine then, let's make him happy! Team AAAAAAAAAA.
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May 8, 2014 22:13
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Remember your past, Michael! Team America! Kind of weird words from the Diglett there. Skitty's not an available partner?
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Skitty can be your partner. Diglett always has trouble recognizing the starter's footprint at the beginning of the game, though.
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Funky Valentine posted:We've just met the worst character in the game and the best character in the game. Somehow I complete forgot about Chatot, but as soon as he appeared I remembered how terrible he was.
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Dr. Dos posted:Somehow I complete forgot about Chatot, but as soon as he appeared I remembered how terrible he was. Not sure what you're talking about, Chatot is great. PMD has an amazing track record of good, well characterized NPC. Maybe this kind of "My favorite pokemon is objectively the best" discussion is better in PMD since these pokemon have actual characters, personalities and dialogue, I hope? Maybe?
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Chatot is sort of a massive rear end in a top hat.
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Funky Valentine posted:Chatot is sort of a massive rear end in a top hat. Eh, kind of. The game makes it pretty clear, I think, that despite Chatot's... attitude, shall we say, he really does care about the guild and its members. Rather than continue to defend the personality of a character we literally just met, though, I'll just say that this guy: Benach posted:Not sure what you're talking about, Chatot is great. PMD has an amazing track record of good, well characterized NPC. has the right idea. Anyway, I'm putting my vote down for Team Meanies. We are Gengar; Gengar is us.
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Glazius posted:Remember your past, Michael! Team America! Seconded! America! gently caress Yeah! quote:Kind of weird words from the Diglett there. Skitty's not an available partner? It's probably just a generic "there's something special about our
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Team PokeGoons. They live in a basement, they are too nervous to join activities, and they'll spend day after day mixing with only a few friends. Sure, they go out for adventures now and then, but it's in a virtual safe world with no risk!
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Going to get the obligatory Team Rocket out of the way. Seriously looking forward to this LP!
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