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quote:L.A. Clippers owner Donald Sterling told his GF he does NOT want her bringing black people to his games ... including Magic Johnson ... and it's ALL on tape. Additional Facts that don't need to be brought up all the time: Sterling has a long, long history of doing really racist poo poo. He settled in a cases regarding housing discrimination in which it looked like he, in fact, was very discriminatory. Elgin Baylor sued him for a discriminatory workplace (jury acquitted). quote:Players Sam Cassell, Elton Brand and Corey Maggette complained to me that Donald Sterling would bring women into the locker room after games, while the players were showering, and make comments such as, ‘Look at those beautiful black bodies.’ I brought this to Sterling’s attention, but he continued to bring women into the locker room.” and of course:  Lockback fucked around with this message at 16:18 on May 12, 2014 |
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I'm gonna repost the WEREWAIF list of things owners have done/do in acquiring their ownership as context for why the discussions on DONALD STERLING seemed to be more people who don't post much about basketball usually:WEREWAIF posted:Most NBA owners got their money through shady nasty stuff. If there aren't published scandals, you could talk to a writer from the company's hometown paper and get information about all the horrible things they've done. Let's do a rundown, if someone has more info feel free to add on. This isn't to say Donald Sterling ain't done nothing wrong by saying awful stuff to his girlfriend, but y'all should keep in mind when expecting Sterling to be removed for it that you may never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy than a group of professional sports owners. But there's certainly some That Old Guy Is Awful fatigue for veteran ball-watchers. They can also tell you which stars have assaulted their wives/girlfriend and have a developed ability to ignore things in order to watch a basketball game. Google "lockout" if you want to see how a threat of players refusing to play might affect a group such as that as whole. I think the scandal might be slightly surprising to folks who follow all kinds of basketball because they'd known he was a monster for a long time and figured people didn't actually care, what with how they usually don't. Personally I wish all teams were run by the Green Bay Packers, I love the connection that fanbase has to the team, but that ain't gonna happen, and I'm not certain y'all should get your hopes up expecting much more penalty for Sterling than maybe he has to watch games from a tinted owner's box.
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Apr 27, 2014 15:47
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I used to hate the Clippers because of Donald Sterling but now that he's gone all mainstream, he's lost his edge. He's just a racist that makes sounds for the masses now. I'll always be a fan of the glory days of slumlord Sterling. He made most of his best racism back then.
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Apr 27, 2014 16:07
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Sterling is really down with the cucklife That is literally the only new thing we have learned from all of this
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Apr 27, 2014 16:08
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The Asian Oprah posted:I'm gonna repost the WEREWAIF list of things owners have done/do in acquiring their ownership as context for why the discussions on DONALD STERLING seemed to be more people who don't post much about basketball usually: Is this list a joke? One of them is literally "prints junk mail" ...the horror! Also, may surprise you, but not all private equity/finance types are bad people.
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Apr 27, 2014 16:16
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R.A. Dickey posted:Is this list a joke? One of them is literally "prints junk mail" ...the horror! Also, may surprise you, but not all private equity/finance types are bad people. It's completist. And it's actually surprised me how many of them are.
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Apr 27, 2014 16:18
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R.A. Dickey posted:Is this list a joke? One of them is literally "prints junk mail" ...the horror! Also, may surprise you, but not all private equity/finance types are bad people. It's less "look at all these bad people" and more "all of these people have made their money off of the backs of the less fortunate in one way or another if you care to do ten minutes of googling"
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Apr 27, 2014 16:24
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Deadspin claims to have gotten a fifteen minute Donald Sterling tape. It is even worse than the original TMZ one. http://deadspin.com/exclusive-the-e...dium=socialflow quote:DS: It's the world! You go to Israel, the blacks are just treated like dogs.
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Apr 27, 2014 16:28
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The Asian Oprah posted:
A strike is when players refuse to play. Lockouts are entirely owner-driven as they are ready and willing to shut down the league to negotiate more favorable terms with each successive CBA. That probably supports your point even further. Unless you meant the threat to decertify, effectively a threat to stop playing for multiple years, which actually resolved that whole lockout mess up quite quickly.
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Apr 27, 2014 16:31
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Spacebump posted:It's crazy to me that any diehard NBA fan knew for years that Sterling is a racist pos but it takes tmz posting a story about it to make national outrage. This is the direction the conversation has been turning to now. A lot of the people speaking out on this are becoming outraged that this should have been dealt with years and years ago. At the very least, this may allow for new rules of ownership be amended if it hasn't already.
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Apr 27, 2014 16:34
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Also Obama has joined the anti-Sterling movement. I have a feeling Sterling is about to get some inexplicable defenders: http://deadspin.com/president-obama...dium=socialflow
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Apr 27, 2014 16:34
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Vertical Lime posted:Also Obama has joined the anti-Sterling movement. I have a feeling Sterling is about to get some inexplicable defenders: "Culture is too big and unknown to bother changing" is a nice encapsulation of a conservative/privileged mindset so the upcoming Fox News defense will actually be quite appropriate
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Apr 27, 2014 16:38
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Vertical Lime posted:Also Obama has joined the anti-Sterling movement. I have a feeling Sterling is about to get some inexplicable defenders: I think this is speaking to the Bundy guy as well. It's a good opportunity to show the world that racism is not yet gone, despite what the Supreme Court has to say about it. So many people like to wave their hands and say everything is fine these days, and the more public ammo you have to show that it really isn't, the better.
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Apr 27, 2014 16:38
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Vertical Lime posted:Also Obama has joined the anti-Sterling movement. I have a feeling Sterling is about to get some inexplicable defenders: quote:"When ignorant folks want to advertise their ignorance, you don't really have to do anything, you just let them talk. That's what happened here," Dude has won several elections this way.
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Apr 27, 2014 16:39
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nachos posted:A strike is when players refuse to play. Lockouts are entirely owner-driven as they are ready and willing to shut down the league to negotiate more favorable terms with each successive CBA. Ah, yeah that was a little unclear. I meant that I don't believe the owners group--who have proven themselves willing to lock out its players and scrap the whole season--is probably not going to feel any acute pressure if 2/30ths of the players said hey we don't want to play a few games.
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Apr 27, 2014 16:40
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The Asian Oprah posted:Ah, yeah that was a little unclear. I meant that I don't believe the owners group--who have proven themselves willing to lock out its players and scrap the whole season--is probably not going to feel any acute pressure if 2/30ths of the players said hey we don't want to play a few games. A strike in the playoffs at the very least would cause absolute chaos. Whether it will accomplish anything else is up in the air, but it would cause absolute chaos at the very least.
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Apr 27, 2014 16:42
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poo poo
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Apr 27, 2014 16:50
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Depressing.
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Apr 27, 2014 16:54
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hitze posted:poo poo Sterling, the benevolent slave master. "ALL GOOD THINGS COME THROUGH ME!"
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Apr 27, 2014 16:56
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The Asian Oprah posted:Personally I wish all teams were run by the Green Bay Packers, I love the connection that fanbase has to the team, but that ain't gonna happen, and I'm not certain y'all should get your hopes up expecting much more penalty for Sterling than maybe he has to watch games from a tinted owner's box. Didn't most of the leagues pass rules forbidding this because of their fear of glorious socialism?
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Apr 27, 2014 17:00
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DeimosRising posted:Didn't most of the leagues pass rules forbidding this because of their fear of glorious socialism? Yes. The Packers are grandfathered in but it will not happen again.
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Apr 27, 2014 17:02
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I'd love to see the Clippers and Warriors players come together before the game today and basically give a joint speech saying "gently caress Donald Sterling." A boycott's probably not feasible since the player's deserve to play, but I'd love to see them take advantage of the stage they have to put a message through
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Apr 27, 2014 17:03
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I do feel good that when 80 year old billionaires date 20 year olds, they need to deal with the same stupid circular arguments that ended up happening when I was 20 and dating 20 year olds. What did Donald Sterling think was going to happen in this phone conversation? I also love this quote:DS: There's no racism here. If you don't want to be... walking... into a basketball game with a certain... person, is that racism? When you define "certain person" as black, yes. That is easily the most clear cut definition of racism.
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Apr 27, 2014 17:07
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It's cool that LeBron just straight up said "gently caress that guy" because you know Jordan would have pulled some weak rear end "white supremacists buy shoes too" poo poo
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Apr 27, 2014 17:11
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Has there been much said by Clippers players about this? Has the team played since it broke?
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Apr 27, 2014 17:15
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Newf posted:Has there been much said by Clippers players about this? Has the team played since it broke? CP3 thinks they should put their heads down and play and Doc Rivers said it's disappointing. They play tonight where it most definitely will not be mentioned every five minutes
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Apr 27, 2014 17:16
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Newf posted:Has there been much said by Clippers players about this? Has the team played since it broke? quote:Clippers coach Doc Rivers said players discussed boycotting Game 4 of their first-round playoff series during a 45-minute team meeting but quickly decided against it. Just basically that. The team doesn't want to get bogged down into this discussion with a game today.
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Apr 27, 2014 17:18
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MourningView posted:It's cool that LeBron just straight up said "gently caress that guy" because you know Jordan would have pulled some weak rear end "white supremacists buy shoes too" poo poo He did? Points for LeBron, as painful as that is for me to say. You can be the face of a franchise and still avoid being a parrot. Wish it happened more often.
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Apr 27, 2014 17:19
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Lockback posted:Just basically that. The team doesn't want to get bogged down into this discussion with a game today. I do like the idea that protesting is easy but not doing anything is hard.
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Apr 27, 2014 17:21
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Doc Rivers looks really lovely in all of this so basically he's going to do whatever he can to make sure he's out of the spotlight
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Apr 27, 2014 17:23
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Magic on inside the NBA eviscerating Sterling.
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Apr 27, 2014 17:41
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Declan MacManus posted:Doc Rivers looks really lovely in all of this so basically he's going to do whatever he can to make sure he's out of the spotlight Will the new nickname for the Staples Center be "The Plantation" or "Uncle Doc's Cabin"?
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Apr 27, 2014 17:43
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AsInHowe posted:Will the new nickname for the Staples Center be "The Plantation" or "Uncle Doc's Cabin"? 2/12/09 11:30am Baylor: Clippers Were Like 'A Vision Of A Southern Plantation' quote:Baylor claims the team has "egregious salary disparities" based on race. Baylor claims he was told to "induce African American players to join the Clippers, despite the Clippers' reputation of being unwilling to fairly treat and compensate African American players." Baylor says the owner, Donald Sterling, has a "pervasive and ongoing racist attitude."
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Apr 27, 2014 17:46
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CharlestheHammer posted:I do like the idea that protesting is easy but not doing anything is hard. I really hope there was some mitigating context to that because goddamn. All those lazy loving civil rights protesters, if only they'd done the hard thing and continued shutting the gently caress up and being a convenient underclass, racism would be over by now.
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Apr 27, 2014 18:00
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I don't agree on Doc Rivers looking lovely here. Things are happening fast and he's said what he needs to. No one on the team is happy about this but they've still got a job to do.
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Apr 27, 2014 18:01
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We can all agree that it would be pretty awkward to imagine Silver handing the O'Brien trophy to Sterling as everyone looks disgusted.
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Apr 27, 2014 18:02
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MourningView posted:It's cool that LeBron just straight up said "gently caress that guy" because you know Jordan would have pulled some weak rear end "white supremacists buy shoes too" poo poo Jordan must released a statement. He is disgusted. My other favorite thing about this whole situation is Sterlings response. Which is basically I'm not saying it was me on the recording, but if it is, I don't agree with what I said and it's not who I am. I just went on a long rear end rant about it though. soggybagel fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Apr 27, 2014 |
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Apr 27, 2014 18:04
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R.D. Mangles posted:We can all agree that it would be pretty awkward to imagine Silver handing the O'Brien trophy to Sterling as everyone looks disgusted. The Los Angeles NAACP was just about to give Sterling an award.  http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/04/donald-sterling-los-angeles-clippers-naacp-award
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Apr 27, 2014 18:07
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So what does the league do in this situation? Ideally he'd not be the owner of the team anymore, but they couldn't just buy the team away from him or force him to resign, could they? This is one hell of an awful situation and is also the epitome of gently caress That Guy, but I have no idea what the league can an cannot do here.
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Apr 27, 2014 18:09
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prefect posted:The Los Angeles NAACP was just about to give Sterling an award. lmao the dude lost a court case about kicking out minorities from his slum housing
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