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This campaign is going to be all about dolla dolla bills, y'all. I mean, aren't they all? But the Liberals will most definitely be campaigning on their budget, and on their plans to expand infrastructure in the province, especially in Toronto (to the tune of $29 billion), the expansion of the massive deposit of mineral wealth in the north, the so-called "Ring of Fire" which is set at $1 billion, hinging on the feds to provide an additional billion (I wouldn't hold my breath, personally), and the much-touted Ontario Pension Plan, wherein every employee would be paying 1.9% of their salary, matched by their employer, into a fund that would be drawn upon after retirement. Tim Hudak has been pushing his "Million Jobs Plan" for several months, and opposes the Liberals on principle. He's of the mind that we need to cut, cut, cut, and then cut some more, to get the province out of trouble, as if government programs are wild, tangled jungle growth, and he's the guy with the machete. Hudak will likely be campaigning on not only his plan to create a million jobs, but on the plethora of Liberal spending mismanagement stories and scandals, including the $1.1 billion dollar gas plant cancellations (which, as Kafka Esq. pointed out, he was going to cancel as well, but he insists he'd have found a cheaper and more transparent way to do it), the deleted e-mails surrounding the canceled gas plants (which are under police investigation), the green energy program, which Tim Hudak is opposed to and, while he'd be forced to uphold the province's end of existing contracts if he became premier, he says he'll sign no new deals for wind farms or solar panels anywhere else in the province, and the mismanagement of the province's air ambulance service ORNGE. What I'm interested in seeing is whether or not Hudak and the PCs will continue to evoke the name and imagery of former premier Dalton McGuinty. Their last campaign used his name more than McGuinty's did and I'm certain it's partly responsible for their failure to grasp the reins of government. Tim Hudak spent more time talking about what the Liberals DID than what he would DO. And Horwath will campaign on something. I don't know. Her lack of confidence in the Liberals, I guess. Get ready for a fun campaign, everyone! (But seriously, it'll probably be pretty boring.) HackensackBackpack fucked around with this message at 22:33 on May 3, 2014 |
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One MPP is accusing another MPP of blocking the appointment of a Financial Accountability Officer. http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1349111/document-reveals-horwath-misled-on-financial-accountability-officer?relation=org quote:Andrea Horwath made the lack of a new Financial Accountability Officer the centrepiece of the NDP's rationale for an election, but new documents reveal that the vacancy exists only because the NDP blocked the appointment of two qualified candidates. Nothing from the PCs yet today, near as I can tell. Their website isn't even updated with anything new. People are tweeting the link to volunteer for the party on the #onpoli hashtag pretty hard, though.
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May 3, 2014 22:33
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tagesschau posted:None of the three parties' sites seems to reflect the fact that there's an election. Perhaps it's because the campaign hasn't officially started yet. Yeah, I didn't realise it's not officially underway until Wednesday. Hudak had an appearance on CBC today. He wants to "hang an open for business sign on Ontario." http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-votes-2014/hudak-stresses-job-creation-reduced-spending-1.2631191
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May 3, 2014 23:42
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Sashimi posted:There's a pretty good chance someone within the PC ranks is going to make a severe gaffe that the media and the other parties can easily latch on to, sinking their chances. Two elections ago it was John Tory's proposal to have a vote on funding faith based schools, last time I think it was some backbenchers saying some crazy racist nonsense. Part of the PCs fallapart last time around was the viceral reaction to Dalton McGuinty's proposal to change sex ed in elementary and high schools, possibly teaching children that transgendered people are a thing. There were many other proposals in the change, like the correct names for sex organs being taught in Grade 1, I think, and it flipped out the PC base, so Hudak had to go out and denounce it, and it made him look like a bit of a prude, and a bit of a trans/homophobe. Of course later, a former deputy minister of education, Benjamin Levin, was arrested on child porn charges in New Zealand. He wasn't deputy minister in 2011, but there was speculation that he had a hand in the sex ed overhaul, and that it wasn't a benign one. He was also part of Wynne's transition team when she took over. Tim Hudak will be on "The Province" on Newstalk 1010 in Toronto at 1:00 this afternoon, as well as on CKTB 610 in Niagara Falls, CKLW 800 in Windsor and 580 CFRA in Ottawa. There might be something interesting there, but if I was to wager a guess he'll likely just be sticking to his script of "lower taxes, create jobs, corrupt liberals." As far as Horwath goes, I can't figure it out, either... The only people who seemed to me to be happy with her decision were PC supporters who just wanted an election. They're not going to vote for the NDP, and in my anecdotal circles, they're still unhappy that it took her so long to bring the government down in the first place.
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May 4, 2014 16:17
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sbaldrick posted:So I've figured out what is going to sink the PCO this time, Hudak or someone is going to talk about family values at some point and say Wynne doesn't speak for Ontario families, which will come off as an attack because of her sexuality. I really hope that doesn't happen, because that would be a load of garbage. There are plenty of issues facing the province that are way more important than some vague "family values" thing. The keyword lately seems to be more "working families" than "family values." Wynne hasn't played up her sexuality at all since becoming premier, aside from the first couple of days after she was appointed when everyone wanted to talk about it, and I hope the PCs stay away from it, too, because it means nothing in terms of her ability to lead a government or plan a budget, or anything else she'll actually be doing.
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May 4, 2014 21:25
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Hudak's campaign seems to be moving from gaffe to gaffe at an incredible rate. Tim Hudak is trying to balance the budget. Kathleen Wynne and the Liberals? They've wasted billions of your hard-earned money on scandals and boondoggles. The Million Jobs Plan will put Ontarians back to work. Just not photographers. Or musicians. Now, for an awkward anecdote about an old person who doesn't like the price of hydro. (Admittedly, I don't think anyone likes the price of hydro.)
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May 6, 2014 21:27
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Andrea Horwath wants to raise the minimum wage not to $11 but $12, and will even give small businesses a 3% tax cut. http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/05/06/ontarios-ndp-want-to-raise-minimum-wage-to-12-an-hour-offset-with-cut-to-small-business-tax/ quote:In trying to appeal to both sides, Horwath said New Democrats are “sensitive” to the effect a higher minimum wage would have on job creators. So there's something from the NDP, playing both sides of the coin here. I like that the CFIB seemed a bit thrown off there. "Well, we LIKE the tax cut... Hmm, minimum wage, though... but the tax cut is good. Taxes are bad. But minimum wage... Can we just get the tax cut? We'd be fine with just the tax cut." I don't know if Horwath herself specifically said "job creators" or if that was just the writing of Canadian Press reporter Diana Mehta.
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May 7, 2014 17:46
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Heavy neutrino posted:At this point I'm honestly really annoyed by the skills training canard being used to distract from efforts to make essential but low-pay jobs earn a liveable wage. You don't fix the issue of retail service and garbage pickup paying like poo poo by training workers for better jobs unless you'd like to take your trash out to the dump site yourself every week. Nevermind the fact that part of the problem is that we've been pushing this idea that the path to economic success for everyone is to go to college/university/trades apprenticeship, and then everyone will have a good job. But you're right, there will always be a need for shelf stockers, cashiers, and burger flippers, and those jobs aren't always going to be staffed by teenagers 100% of the time. I also think that because entry-level retail work is considered to be where the failures end up, it can be difficult to talk about improving the lives of the people working those jobs. I think the general narrative around jobs like that is that everyone who has one wishes they didn't, so the solution is to get them out of there as fast as possible and into something better. There are some retailers who pay their employees well. Costco is always a go-to example, and I'm pretty sure the LCBO gives a decent wage. I know I've heard angry people complain that the kids at the LCBO get paid "too much", but it could be the  tax dollars angle more than the injustice of a shelf-stocker having the audacity to make more than 10 bucks an hour. I get the argument that increasing labour costs will put a financial burden on businesses that employ people. I get that. But nobody ever says, "hey, maybe diversify your business, or seek out new customers, or find another way to 'increase efficiency' rather than just cutting hours and letting people go." How many people can you lay off before you can't run your business anymore? A store needs employees, they can't all be replaced by self-service cash registers, as the memes would say. (And on that note, aren't those things more expensive than a minimum wage cashier in the long run? Don't they cost a year's salary or more to buy and install, and then they use electricity the whole time, and you have to pay an even more expensive person to fix them if/when they break?) Maybe I'm naive. I'll admit I've never owned or managed a business before. Never "created a job." I'm a taker, not a maker, a deckhand of industry. But a captain can't run an entire ship on his own. Also, as an aside, is there any place I can get some hard facts on what the Liberals have done re: the Drummond Report? Because I keep hearing that they've either enacted 80% of the suggestions or they've COMPLETELY IGNORED IT.
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May 7, 2014 20:35
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Hey Nepean-Carleton! Take a walk on the WILD SIDE!
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May 8, 2014 23:06
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There are plenty of people in Ontario who will gleefully cheer Hudak on in this plan, and who honestly DO believe getting rid of teachers and government workers will be a boon to the economy. It's like the time Reagan fired those air traffic controllers! Except these people aren't getting their jobs back at reduced pay, they're not getting their jobs back at all! EVEN BETTER! However, the number of people who would be keen on this plan is not great enough to give Mr. Hudak the majority (or even minority) he so craves. How long before other PCs start to sharpen their knives for him (again) do you think? Before or after the election? Maybe some new poll numbers need to come out. If he blows this one, I can't see him getting another chance. CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Pfft why do we even need class "rooms"? Just shove all the kids into the gym with 1 teacher. Think of the savings! It worked on Little House on the Prairie! Remember the good old days when schoolhouses had ALL the kids in them?
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May 9, 2014 20:47
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I got a card in the mail saying the Liberals are going to save me  $70 a year by eliminating the debt retirement charge on my hydro bill!MAKE IT RAIN, KATHLEEN WYNNE! They're actually campaigning on this.
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May 10, 2014 03:03
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Helsing posted:That's how our Parliamentary system works. She's no more nor less legitimate than any other Premier in this country. You're free to complain about how our system works, God knows there are plenty of flaws, but this is a pretty ridiculous reason to single out the Liberals when pretty much every party has, on at least a couple of occasions, ended up switching leaders between elections. Heck, Ernie Eves came to power under similar circumstances, and he didn't even have a seat in the legislature at the time. So, Eastern Ontario PCs are angry at Nepean-Carleton Liberal candidate Jack Uppal... Apparently he posted some lovely copypasta to Facebook in January about how men and women think differently, and they're all calling him out for sexism. Jack Uppal on Facebook, January 30 posted:Human Brain Analysis - Man vs. Woman......! It's like he got this from The Funnyman with Jokes and Laughing or something. Like, it's stupid, and it's one of those "clean up your social media" things, but it's Nepean-Carleton... Lisa MacLeod has that place on lockdown. She's been getting over 50% of the vote since 2006, and it was John Baird's riding before that. Uppal is just a warm body for the Liberal ticket. It was a dumb thing to post, and if this guy knew he was running, you'd think he'd have cleaned up his profile a bit, but it's set to super-private for me... I can't even see anything. Maybe he changed it after this started trickling out, though.
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May 10, 2014 19:07
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:He really is a true believer. Just lower taxes and corporate taxes and the jobs will create themselves. Why? How? They just will! His candidates are on the same page in many ways. Joanne Chianello from the Ottawa Citizen was tweeting some campaign launches yesterday. Former Citizen columnist Randall Denley is running for the PCs against Bob Chiarelli in Ottawa West-Nepean. He says the promise to cut 100,000 jobs is Tim Hudak "being 100% honest with people." Matt Young in Ottawa South says, "If you're working for a LHIN, you won't be" after the PCs win the election. This isn't a Liberal scare promise, this is a crowd rallying Tory promise.  (He later clarified to say you'll probably still keep working for the health ministry, just not at a Local Health Integration Network.) For the Liberals, Bob Chiarelli continues to summon the ghost of Mike Harris' government, saying "We saw the ghost of Mike Harris in Tim Hudak" with the 100k job cut promise. He says they're facing a "Triple-H threat: Harris, Hudak, and Harper." So it looks like Kathleen Wynne's jabs at the feds are A Thing now. Today, Kathleen Wynne will be hosting Bell Media's The Province on AM radio in Toronto, Windsor, St. Catharines and Ottawa. I'll bet she mentions Stephen Harper more times than Tim Hudak. Andrea Horwath is headed to the 807 to visit Thunder Bay and other NDP-leaning northern Ontario communities. Tim Hudak will be in Toronto today. And Jack Uppal, the guy I mentioned in my previous post who had put up something on Facebook that your uncle would probably post, which some P.C.s called out for being sexist, has apologized "unreservedly" for the posting. He didn't mean for it to be taken literally. 
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May 11, 2014 13:47
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So, he's just trying to lose at this point isn't he? I knew it. I knew Tim Hudak was a long-game secret Liberal plant all along. He infiltrated the PCPO during the Harris years and has been taking orders from the LPO ever since. Either that, or he wants to embark upon a Starve-The-Beast strategy for the education system, but he decided to tell everyone before he got elected, instead of just doing it afterward. Beautiful.
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May 11, 2014 17:02
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MagicCube posted:Tim Hudak is a Simpsons fan and is taking all his campaign ideas from there, Wynne rebuts with "Simpsons did it! Simpsons did it!" while walking down an empty residential street: "If you have three public sector jobs and you cut one, how many private sector jobs are created? Yes, the redhead in Kapuskasing?" "Job creators?" "Partial credit!"
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May 11, 2014 22:41
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Fojar38 posted:Theoretically you could have a 60 kid classroom with huge expensive renovations and investments in training, technology, and manpower that I'll bet Hudak would totally support paying for. This is how he'll create those jobs! We will need carpenters, masons, architects, electricians, and all kinds of other construction trades-related jobs to expand every school in the province. OF COURSE! Kathleen Wynne's Province radio show was a shitshow. Apparently they're in a new studio and the phones weren't working properly. But she brought her mom on for Mother's day near the end. Awwwww.  She took a shot at Hudak about his tax cuts saying it'll cost the province 3 billion dollars in revenue if he goes through with the corporate tax cut. Horwath is promising an NDP government will inject a one-time 100 million dollar boost into licensed child care spaces for the province. (Happy Mother's Day!)
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May 11, 2014 23:49
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Kreez posted:As I haven't seen anything else on it, I assume that the 60 kids in a class thing posted earlier wasn't actually a think Hudak said? The podcast is here: http://www.cbc.ca/thehouse/2014/05/10/john-gomery-calls-pmo-chief-justice-spat-bewildering/ Hudak comes on around 18:30. He does say increasing class sizes could be a thing, but I didn't hear him say 60 kids to a class.
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May 12, 2014 01:28
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What would be the most effective ways of bringing hydro rates down? I got a flier from Bob Chiarelli about removing the debt retirement charge, a savings of $70 a year, and now Horwath says she'll cut the HST to save $120 a year. Hudak's plan to end the feed-in tarrif and cut green energy subsidies will save the provincial government $20 billion but he says he can't lower the rates themselves, but don't worry, 40,000 jobs! Also in that Star story is Wynne promising the Liberals would save money by not building new nuclear plants!
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May 12, 2014 16:56
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Ikantski posted:A lot of people think buying cheap green hydro from Quebec would be a good start. Have any of the parties said anything about this? If the infrastructure exists, certainly the Liberals have had the chance to do it this whole time, but could this not be a win? Eastern and Northwestern Ontario would certainly immediately benefit from Quebec and Manitoba hydro, and I imagine the grid is set up in such a way that the rest of the provice would be able to take advantage as well. What's the motivation against it, beyond the article's statement of "lack of political will"? Rutibex posted:Reform Ontario Hydro and set the rate. I'll admit that my knowledge of how the electricity system works in Ontario is limited. The big cities like Ottawa and Toronto have their own hydro companies, and then the rest of the province is on Hydro One... Except Cornwall which has contracts with Quebec (and cheap rates, so I hear!) So would the undertaking then involve the folding-in of the municipal corps back into Hydro One, and then fixing rates to a certain level? Bob Chiarelli himself has said the rates are going up 40% over the next 4 to 5 years, as if the province has no control over it at all... So how would this plan of reforming the hydro company and setting the rate be undertaken?
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May 12, 2014 17:54
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sliderule posted:For all the bitching Hudak is doing about the high pay for senior staff at hydro, I was shocked to learn that his own salary is $180,000. Is he proposing a 10% cut to his own pay if he's so interested in reducing spending? He won't be cutting salaries, but he will freeze them for everyone in the public sector for two years, including politicians. So presumably he won't be getting a raise, but he won't get a cut either.
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May 13, 2014 03:58
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bunnyofdoom posted:Completely unscientific, annecdotal preference data follows It's odd, because it's Bob Chiarelli and Randall Denley again, but the NDP made a big fuss a year ago that they had Alex Cullen, who held the now-defunct Ottawa West riding as a Liberal before, as well as being a long-time city councillor. Chiarelli won by 1009 votes over Denley in 2011, so it was fairly close. Looking over old vote results on Wikipedia, it looks like the NDP has been pulling single-digit vote percentages for much of this riding's history until last year when Wendy Byrne managed over 14%. The only Cullen sign I've seen so far is next to the Harvey's at Baseline and Merivale. A lot of Chiarelli and Denley signs though. I've had mailers from Chiarelli and Denley so far, too, but nothing from the NDP this time around.
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Huge Liability posted:To which non-English speaking country did you farm out the web design? The United States. http://www.citynews.ca/2014/05/15/ontario-ndp-launches-new-website-with-help-of-u-s-company/ quote:Ontario’s New Democrats launched a new website on Thursday, which was created with the help of Los Angeles-based software developer NationBuilder.
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May 15, 2014 17:10
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FowlTheOwl posted:You could say they don't care about the Canadian "job creators" either, since I would assume many Ontario tech firms could do the job and it would show that the NDP support local jobs/businesses. I think they DID want to pull an Obama, what with the going to the guys who helped Obama's online campaign. That dude got elected twice.
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May 15, 2014 19:56
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Helsing posted:Big things you say? What the hell are they doing? At this point, I think everyone is working for the Liberal party. Kathleen Wynne must have pictures of all of them.This is like quitting your job, after planning for months, because your boss is an rear end in a top hat and then your family asks, "so what are you going to do now?" and you go, "I'unno. I got six weeks. I'll figure something out."
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May 15, 2014 23:23
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This is the dumbest election ever. IN OTHER NEWS: The Leaders' debate will be June 3rd on TVO, CBC, CTV, Global, Sun and C-PAC. It will be hosted by Steve Paikin. This appears to be the only one we'll be having, nine days before the election and in the middle of advance polling. So get your Twitter fingers ready for all the fun that #ondb8 hashtag will bring, y'all!
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May 18, 2014 16:36
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Does Kathleen Wynne deserve time in the penalty box? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SitiWyAeQ0M
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May 18, 2014 19:01
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So. The advertising blackout has been lifted for 20 minutes. Anyone seen any ads on TV yet?
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Journos on Twitter are reporting the NDP platform is coming down in the morning. 
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May 22, 2014 05:49
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vyelkin posted:I have to say that I'm resigned to hoping it's a trainwreck because I really, really don't want vote splitting to hand Hudak a government. I hope it's a 1.1 million jobs plan! 
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May 22, 2014 06:36
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I bet you all wished you picked "A Comedy Option" in the poll NOW, eh Dippers? Aha! Ahahaha! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Haaaa......  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__HBBf_eDLM HackensackBackpack fucked around with this message at 16:37 on May 22, 2014 |
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Do party leaders get severance pay if the party strips them of leadership? Maybe Horwath wants out but doesn't want to quit so much as force herself to get fired. Anything is possible in this brave new world we call Ontario!
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May 22, 2014 16:42
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JohnnyCanuck posted:Nothing about Ottawa or Eastern Ontario at all, huh? Figures. :P Hell, even Hudak said Ottawa and Kitchener-Waterloo LRT would continue under a P.C. government, even though he's scrapping trains in the GTHA.
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Yesterday Kathleen Wynne dismissed the NDP as "irrelevant" and Andrea Horwath laughed it off. Today, she has made a commitment to that irrelevance, with a platform seemingly designed to alienate everyone. NDP supporters (as extrapolated from this thread) are upset at her apparent shift to the right, with all the "job creators" talk, left-wing swing voters who don't want a Hudak government are now more likely (in my opinion) to swing back to the Liberals, and right-wing voters typically don't have a second choice anyway, but also Horwath wants to  raise corporate taxes so, good luck with that!
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May 22, 2014 17:58
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sbaldrick posted:Every poll is all over the place this year. I more trust that CFRA isn't on-board with Hudak for the way the election is blowing. Who at CFRA is calling for Hudak's head?
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You mean the government isn't like tuna casserole night? We've been having the same tuna casserole every Thursday for the last ten years. It's time for a change! I don't like the colour of the drapes. Let's go out and buy blue drapes. It's time for a change! HackensackBackpack fucked around with this message at 05:40 on May 23, 2014 |
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Has Hudak or any other Tory mentioned recall legislation recently? I seem to recall one of the PCs... Rick Hillier was it? who wanted to put forward legislation to recall a premier if the People of Ontario didn't like them very much. If they're in sight of the finish line it's doubtful they'd bring it up now, but I have to wonder if that's not still in the works within the PC system. EDIT: It was Rick Hillier, and it was for MPPs and mayors so it wouldn't bring down an entire government but it could cost a premier of cabinet minister their seat, maybe. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ontario-torys-bill-would-allow-recall-of-misbehaving-mayors-mpps/article15533939/ Anyway, yeah, nothing on that so far, but I wonder if the PCs would still do it if they got into office. HackensackBackpack fucked around with this message at 20:19 on May 23, 2014 |
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May 23, 2014 20:14
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I'm sure there are leadership contention channels within the party. As regular citizens we're kind of stuck with the party leaders we have, but you can always pressure your local riding association, maybe, with letters, e-mails, or phone calls, or other avenues of communication that don't involve kidnapping and murder. If you care to get involved with a party there's that option too, and then you'd be able to vote in a leadership race.
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May 24, 2014 03:44
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This election gets stupider every day. I get that nobody likes to be criticized but saying, "they're not real NDPers" is the dumbest poo poo. Besides, if they're so against corruption, why did they wait until now to bring down the government and not the budget before? I mean, maybe they figure the votes they can pick up with their shift would be greater than the votes they'd lose. Maybe they think being the party that's a little bit Wynne and a little bit Hudak will offer voters the best of both worlds.
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I know part of Horwath's reasoning for the NDP not supporting this budget as opposed to the last one is that the Liberals didn't give her everything she wanted last time. She did say that, but now it seems like the ONDP is campaigning along the corruption and waste angle that the PCs tried in 2011. It's the NDP that's talking about government corruption and wasted tax dollars, while Hudak and the Tories just keep throwing darts at a dartboard, multiplying the score by 1000 and saying "this is how many jobs we'll create with this policy. " "We'll cut corporate taxes and create... THUD THUD THUD... 40,000 jobs!" Hudak is doing exactly what he should have done last time and is campaigning on a platform of what his party would do if it became the government, instead of just saying "McGuinty Bad!" over and over again. But now, it seems, the NDP is saying, "Wynne Bad!" and this is their thing. Horwath has mentioned child care spaces and school funds on campaign stops before. She mentioned a $12 dollar minimum wage I think the first day of the campaign? But it doesn't seem to be a sticking point. All day Wednesday, every news org's story on her platform was leading with "the NDP will raise corporate taxes!" So, the spin still seems to go against the right-wing "lower taxes, create jobs" grain, but the platform has millions of dollars in grants to "job creators" in it. Meanwhile, her campaign co-chair is throwing accusations of Liberal tampering around. I get Helsing's point that we, in this thread, are not the target audience for most, if not all, of what parties are doing in the campaign. I get that. But Horwath was in a pretty good place before this. A lot of left-wing policy was being put into place or was being seriously considered because she held the keys to the government. It was her choice to prop the Liberals up or bring them down. The only people who were genuinely upset, as far as I can tell, were conservatives, and that's only because their team wasn't calling the shots. There were some items that didn't happen this time around, and so she said something about "oh, well if we can't trust them with these three little promises we can't trust them at all!" ignoring that a good chunk of the province has been calling for the Liberals' heads ever since McGuinty raised taxes after saying "no new taxes." But again, I read the politics threads every day, so I'm probably in too deep.
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vyelkin posted:Hypothetically, what do the people in this thread think will happen if Hudak wins a slim minority and puts forward a budget that is the Million Jobs Plan in budget form? Would either other party be willing to support it? Recall of course that it would be a budget and therefore a confidence matter, so if they rejected it that would mean another election. If it's a slim minority, I would like to think the PCs would be smart enough to trim some of the fat off their Million Jobs plan to ensure it passes. They're unlikely to get support from the Liberals, but I can easily see the NDP propping them up in exchange for at least something like Andrea Horwath's pet auto insurance rates cause or something. Hudak may have to settle for only 750 thousand jobs. If they throw it all down exactly as-is and the opposition parties both refuse, I'm pretty sure we'll see another election before we see a coalition. A Lib-NDP coalition immediately after a PC minority win would have the shittiest optics for both parties, considering that's almost effectively what we've had since 2011 anyway. I wonder if Hudak would prorogue.
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