Guy DeBorgore posted:

That's assuming you actually want the NDP to win, which most NDPers do. If you just want the NDP to sit in 3rd place and keep the Liberals scared then yeah, I guess you'll be disappointed.

Janderbuilt posted:

If Hudak wins and the OLC gets privatized, would that mean that lottery winnings would then be taxable, like in the States?

Lobok posted:

Are the NDP going to go after Hudak at all because his plans for the TTC are much easier to explain in their crappiness. He wants Ontario to take the money-making subways and leave Toronto with money-losing buses.

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‎BARRIE — Progressive Conservative Leader Tim Hudak says a Tory government would cut 100,000 jobs from the Ontario public sector.
Hudak said the 10 per cent cut will affect all workers, except for nurses, doctors and police, and will bring employment back to 2009 levels.
“Our government is growing bigger than we can afford,” he said in a news release prior to speaking to party supporters at a campaign stop.
“We’re spending more and more with money we don’t have, and piling up enormous debt,” stated Hudak, adding that the cuts would save $2 billion.

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vyelkin posted:

loving what a shambles this campaign is.

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

This election is one of the silliest I've ever seen in terms of pie in the sky promises. Usually we don't hear this kind of stuff from parties until the last 2-3 days before the vote.

e: Have a link on that HST promise? I can't find it.

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Andrea Horwath, Leader of Ontario's New Democrats, joined Thunder Bay—Superior North candidate Andrew Foulds and Thunder Bay—Atikokan candidate Mary Kozorys to talk about the NDP's plan to put money back into the budgets of middle class families by taking the HST off hydro bills.

"Middle class families are getting squeezed like never before and nothing squeezes them harder than hydro bills. Taking the HST off hydro bills is a simple achievable step that will put money back into the pockets of every Ontario family and help make life more affordable," said Horwath.

An NDP government will take the provincial portion of the HST off of hydro bills starting in 2016 saving a typical Ontario family about $120 every year.

Leofish posted:

What would be the most effective ways of bringing hydro rates down? I got a flier from Bob Chiarelli about removing the debt retirement charge, a savings of $70 a year, and now Horwath says she'll cut the HST to save $120 a year. Hudak's plan to end the feed-in tarrif and cut green energy subsidies will save the provincial government $20 billion but he says he can't lower the rates themselves, but don't worry, 40,000 jobs!

Also in that Star story is Wynne promising the Liberals would save money by not building new nuclear plants!

Kafka Esq. posted:

I'm not an expert in bond markets, but is that how it works? I thought the vast majority of it was bought at a fixed rate and servicing the interest happens at that rate only.

Kafka Esq. posted:

It's over 20 years.

Ikantski posted:

But you wouldn't compare it to the entire budget. How much are we spending more than we're making? 12 billion dollars. How much would we be spending more than we make if interest rates went up 1%, 15.5 billion dollars.

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New Democrat Leader Andrea Horwath says an NDP government would appoint a cabinet minister specifically responsible for savings.

She says the minister of savings and accountability would be tasked with finding savings of 0.5 per cent a year.
That's about $600 million annually.

Horwath says if she's elected premier, she would count the pennies.

She also says the Liberals have been wasteful with tax dollars.

The NDP would merge ministries and government agencies as part of a plan to cut spending.

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

I've always wondered about those signs, in general. What's the purpose of them? I'm already getting sign-fatigue just walking around and seeing dueling Matt Young and John Fraser signs at every intersection in my neighbourhood. Are they intended to convince people, or help canvassers know which houses to skip over?

bunnyofdoom posted:

Ha ha holy poo poo.

tagesschau posted:

The Liberals have a full slate of 107 candidates.

Aagar posted:

DynamicSloth (or anyone): I'm confused - how can you cut cabinet ministers but keep the ministries? Do they just operate as autonomous departments and are accountable to the Premier? I just can't picture how it works. Especially:

Badger of Basra posted:

Why does ONDP do best among people with only a high school education? Are these the much spoken of "yokels"?

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According to Freedom of Information documents obtained by the Ontario Liberals, the socialist leader and her assistant have charged taxpayers for muffins, bagels, Tim Hortons lunch combos and even a 25-cent Oshawa parking tab.

In the period from January 2011 to December 2013, Horwath and two assistants made well over 100 food claims as she travelled the province.

The chits handed to taxpayers show they ate well with more than 60 receipts for seafood — calamari, mussels, perch, pickerel, salmon, shrimp, trout, sea scallops and lobster bisque, the documents show.

Hand Knit posted:

I told him that my family, which has traditionally voted straight NDP because they are the leftest of the three major parties, are considering voting OLP because of the direction Horwath is campaigning. He implied that we're not the only people in Toronto who feel this way. The "in Toronto" qualifier struck me, making me wonder how well what Horwath is doing is playing with "yokels in Sarnia."

vyelkin posted:

iirc all the indications we've gotten are that labour wanted them to support the Wynne budget, so in a sense this entire election is the NDP turning their back on labour even if none of their specific policies are anywhere near as anti-union as the PCs.

Solis posted:

I think the NDP have pretty much given up trying to win. I got a call in the middle of the day asking for support and when I responded that thanks to Horwath's pandering to the right I was decidedly less interested in going NDP provincially they didn't even try and engage at all, just said 'thanks for your time.' If the people trying to drum up support for your party aren't even that excited by it that's not a good sign.

tagesschau posted:

The video says that it's possible to get a majority of the votes under an AV system and not win. This is completely false. It's possible to get a plurality and not win (this would have happened to a lot of Tories in GTA ridings in the 2011 federal election if AV had been in place).

tagesschau posted:

In which race did that occur? I don't have time to check 150 races to figure out which one you're talking about.

bunnyofdoom posted:

Did I hear correctly that the OPP released their first ever political ad saying don't vote PC?

bunnyofdoom posted:

40% actually.

Remember, there is another city in Ontario that has more than a million people. Why aren;'t we getting our rear end kissed too? (I actually know why)

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In Vaughan this morning, Kathleen Wynne said that if Tim Hudak’s Progressive Conservatives win a plurality of seats in a minority legislature, she’ll let them govern rather than try to team up with Andrea Horwath’s New Democrats to hold on to government.