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They should really just make this a ultra gritty serial cop drama. Like Se7en: The Series or something. If the characters are well drawn enough they won't have to keep going to the well of Batman villains to keep people watching. And yeah the trailer did look pretty good. It at least provides some hope that this isn't going to be another Birds of Prey.
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Xealot posted:This is honestly the best option, though, because it suggests there's some idea driving things outside of the Batman references. If it could be its own show and totally drop the Batman connection, it presumably has themes and characters it wants to explore in its own right. I wouldn't mind a bait-and-switch if the product they switched in was actually good. Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:It's a great option until all your initial audience quits because they were sold a Batman show and get a weird Wire-esque network drama. That's always a possibility but what other choice do they have, really? They're not going to get the rights to have Batman in it and I would think that it would be pretty obvious to everyone going in that we won't be seeing Batman for various reasons not the least of which is that Bruce Wayne is being played by a 12 year old. The alternative is just a lot of wink-wink fan service. And no one wants a repeat of Birds of Prey or Smallville. They had another option. They could've done, basically, what Arrow did, gone with a Bruce Wayne in his late teens, who's just returned from the far east to begin his grand plan to bring justice to his city and honor his parents memory by engineering Gotham's phoenix-like rise from it's own ashes. He soon finds it won't be so easy. His company has been stolen out from under him and he has to navigate the diseased hydra of corrupt cops, corrupt city government, corrupt businessmen and nearly third world levels of crime all of which are in bed with each other and have roots that are so deep into the foundation of the city that they are practically the standard. The city hangs by a thread with a few honest individuals desperately trying to hold it together. Bruce's plans begin to form. He enters the game as a minor anonymous player, a kind of Oracle/Harold Finch/Deepthroat style character, and begins pulling string from behind the scenes. Along the way he forms shaky alliances with a young James Gordon, eager to change the system, and a burnout detective named Harvey Bullock. This is where we see the origins of Batman the strategist, his plans within plans. He makes low level contacts within the criminal underworld, orchestrating chain reactions that lead to chaos among the rival organizations. His enemies destroy each other. Eventually he takes to the streets in black tactical gear; a precursor to his eventual uniform to fight crime up close. All of this is interspersed with flashbacks to his ninja/detective/Houdini training at various locations and under various masters. And if it were done right it wouldn't matter that we never got to see him in full costume, because the show would be about more than just the Batman characters and universe. It would be about more than just the writers trying to figure out which obscure Batman villain they can make references to this week. It would be, relatively speaking, a slow burn. A Game of Thrones. A Sopranos. A drama. There's no reason you can't have well drawn characters the likes of Breaking Bad and The Wire or fantastic  plot like The Shield in a show based on comic book characters.They could have gone this way, and they arguably would have done a better job of it than Arrow because 1: Batman is a far more interesting character than Green Arrow and 2: At least to me, CW produced shows always seem to have a weird fake almost cartoony look to them. I guess it's something with the way their shot and the sets. But Fox produced shows always seem to look great and realistic. But that's not what we're getting. For one thing I can't see a 12 year old Bruce Wayne having any real effect on the shows universe. Unless the writers/producers wanted to do something like Fresh which would actually be pretty awesome. Ultimately, I think that a good, gritty, neo-noir serial crime drama is exactly what this show needs to be. Like others have suggested, basically, Gotham Central/Gotham Nights/GCPD. By all means make use of the Batman-Villains-Before-They-Were-Batman-Villains characters but use the Batman universe as a foundation for great dramatic television where all of the characters and the plot can stand on their own. Anyway, I think it will be interesting to see how the show is formatted and it's nice to see it at least generating some interesting discussion. -Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 08:46 on May 9, 2014 |
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