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The 'jerry-rigged' version doesn't even make much sense, since German engineering during WWII was recognized by the Allies to be generally superior. British soldiers constantly stole German gas tanks, jerry cans, because the ones their own army produced were awful in comparison.
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To be (more than) fair, there aren't many explicitly right leaning shows on the networks for that audience. Things like Family Guy and Two and a Half Men have the same tired, 'politically incorrect' misogyny and racism for punchlines, but those shows masquerade under liberal banners and occasional jabs at Republicans inbetween rape and illegal immigrant jokes. And if you don't vote for the right people, you're not a real American, no matter how much you hate women.
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May 13, 2014 21:19
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I'm not talking so much about characters. As these reviews have shown, the political and social beliefs of the creators inevitably insert themselves in the creation and solving of storylines. Last Man Standing isn't too subtle about it, and neither was King of the Hill. But something like Mad Men is making a statement about the misogyny and grossness of its characters by showing these people are ultimately wrong as the world moves on around them. This is hidden under a layer of period piece, but the attitudes their commenting on haven't disappeared in 50 years. Edit: and wait, are you saying Tim Allen's character in this isn't right leaning?
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May 13, 2014 22:37
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Irish Joe posted:Yes, and no. If Mad Men was just about women's issues, no one would still be watching it seven years later. Misogyny on Mad Men is a surface detail, like period clothing, music and cultural references. The show is actually a treatise on aging and the difficulty we have dealing with, and adapting to, change. Yeah, Peggy fought the patriarchy, but the biggest battles she fights are against herself. Misogyny didn't stab her boyfriend, she did. In other words, hers is a deeply personal story and attributing political undertones to it is more a reflection of your politics than it is the show's. Misogyny is only one aspect, yes. I was using it as an example of the politics in the show. We do filter entertainment through our own biases, but writers and actors inevitably do the same thing. If a man is writing a woman character, something about how he feels about women is going to creep in there. The best writers make fully fleshed out people, though not many of them work for television, but how they view the world is going to color how they write. Nothing is completely apolitical.
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May 13, 2014 23:47
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He's also an executive producer for the show. If he fundamentally disagreed with anything he was saying, he has the power to swing it the Carroll O'Connor direction and have his character made out to be in the wrong. Instead, he pours money into a show where he says racist and misogynist stuff that is portrayed as fundamental truth.
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May 21, 2014 19:44
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It's probably less "let's stick it to Native Americans" and more, "PC bullshit is taking away my free speech to romanticize the genocide of millions!"
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May 21, 2014 19:58
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Lycus posted:It's a Zimmerman joke coupled with a "Florida sucks" joke. I think the confusion is that it's coming from the opposite angle you'd expect from this show.
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