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Nerdfest X posted:The movie was entertaining, however some of the issues I had were: quote:The idea that one could hack into the system, and change poo poo like "I'll just cut/paste the current president's name with my own name, and that makes me president! Right? Brilliant!" Same thing with making everyone a citizen. I will allow that the automated hospital ships attempt to go down to earth to cure everyone, because maybe it's how they are programmed, but by the time they got halfway down to Earth, someone could recall them. The Surgeon General of Elysium would just put a loving stop to it. "I did not authorize this." For all those ships to take off is not routine traffic. It would not go unnoticed. The fact that the system can be hacked is totally believable though. quote:Turning Matt Damon into Space Jesus. Why? They could have left out the "whoever downloads this program dies" aspect, but this was probably the one factor that the entire film was built around since day one. quote:Foster's death and refusal of help at the end needed some explanation, as well. What was the motivation? Tired of living forever? Did she atone for her sins at the point of dying? Afraid she would have to go to trial/jail for her actions? Would the government of Elysium strip her of her citizenship and exile her to earth with the rest of the lowlifes, and she just wouldn't be able to cope "If I cant live in paradise, I refuse to live at all" kind of thing? The first time I saw the film, I read the scene wrong, and didn't like the way it actually was when I saw it the second time. Originally I thought that Foster was refusing help because she literally didn't believe this dirty immigrent could help her, and didn't want to be touched until a robot doctor showed up. Like she had literally forgotten that humans could actually get help directly from each other, rather than help being something that is purchased. I thought it was really thematically appropriate and fit with a lot of the other things going on. When I rewatched it, it turns out it really wasn't like that at all, and it is kind of strange. I can make two guess as to her motive for dying: the first is as you said, that she is tired of living this hosed up immortality. The second is that she doesn't want to live now that her dream has crumbled.
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Black Bones posted:As for the system hacking, obviously the download is permanent. The robot guards prevent the human soldiers from threatening to arrest Che, because they are all equal now, immediately and forever. I imagine that the system would reject any attempt to tamper with who is or is not a citizen. Like even if the new president is also an engineer with executive passwords and poo poo and is like "no, medical robots, stop helping others that's an order" they would just gently push him out of the way and ignore him, since medical aid is the right of all citizens. It's also kind of implied that William Fitchner's character was basically the only one in a unique position to be able to hack the system, because he had both the security clearance to access it and he was one of the people that designed it (I think). So with him dead, anyone who wanted to change it would have to pull a super-wizard class hacker out of their rear end AND be able to get them into the place guarded by robot soldiers.
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Nov 10, 2014 17:57
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Nerdfest X posted:Any system can be hacked, funds transferred, data stolen etc., but if I hack into the White House and replace "Barak Obama" with my own name, NerdfestX is NOT going to be president, no matter what Our Computer Overlords say. But you could do that with voting machines.
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Nov 10, 2014 19:51
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Nerdfest X posted:Interesting aspect, I didn't make this connection the 1st time. I saw it more as a "in order to defeat my enemy, I must become my enemy" motif. Yeah, there's not much a crucifixion metaphor, but the imagery is definitely there. Note that the exoskeleton is literally bolted into his body.
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Nov 11, 2014 18:59
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Young Freud posted:Yeah, it's a rhetorical question. Honestly, when she said that, I could easily seeing Michelle Bachmann or Sarah Palin saying that to Obama or some other opponent during a political debate, even though they would know full well he does have children. I doubt her name was changed, they did the redub because test audiences didn't like her French accent.
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Nov 17, 2014 22:05
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Young Freud posted:No, it was changed. Her name was originally Rhodes, but was changed at some point in production. Some of the concept art even associates her and the character with the name Rhodes. Even some of the embossed dossier props that were put up for auction had the name Rhodes, so it makes me wonder if the briefing with Patel (where those dossiers were used) was a reshoot. I stand corrected.
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The Peccadillo posted:Why does anyone even want a Halo movie? The games already happened, they were fun as poo poo. Dude there are Halo books...
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