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JamieTheD
Nov 4, 2011

LPer, Reviewer, Mad Welshman

(Yes, that's a self portrait)

alcharagia posted:

Oh, I guess I was wrong.

Yeah... Oh well, it'll be a hot time in the cold town this evening. :P

EDIT: WOOOOO!

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Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!

Section Z posted:

You should have not used COMMUNIST MATH, YOU TRAITOR.

No more! I'll squeal!

Scaly Haylie
Dec 25, 2004

JamieTheD posted:

Close. It was Mystique and a gang of other villains co-opted... Then, post Civil War, they became Norman Osborn's goons. Then Marvel gave up on the name license, Irrational snapped that poo poo up, and apparently, there was an Image Comics miniseries. Gotta track that poo poo down!

SPOILER WARNING: Do not look for these comics yourself unless you've played the game, it spoils future characters!

For a minute there I thought you were saying that the game heavily borrowed from the members of Marvel's Freedom Force.

DoubleDonut posted:

Are there any video links? I mostly ask because I think the magic of the voice acting of this game needs to be shared with as many people as possible.

There are! A few are in the previous updates, but today's issue in particular is going to be chock full of 'em!

Scaly Haylie
Dec 25, 2004

Skating on Thin Ice, Part 1


Last time, Mentor promised us some exposition, and today we're gonna get it.


Whoa, nice digs.
I like to think the Freedom Force logo there is because MentorBulbskull Flouncycape is from space-America


I have established it as a base of operations.

Clearly.


For us, Frank Stiles. This planet you call Earth is in danger.
Yes, I know. I'm ready to face the communist hordes...it's the reason I became Minuteman. But why are you here?
These :airquote:communists:airquote: are not the thread I speak of. I will tell you of a race that was once great...but has been descended into villainy and wickedness. They are called :moreevil:THE DOMAIN:moreevil: and they are ruled by a tyrant known only as :moreevil:LORD DOMINION.:moreevil:

Lord who now?
/



You might want to get a snack.



As Man took his first baby steps into the void of space, one question grew more and more important in the mind of humanity:


"Are we alone?"


The dreadful answer was now becoming clear...

Oh, it's dreadful all right.


Glory to you, Lord Dominion! May all your conquests be merciless!
Oh for crying out-- you know simpering can be dignified, don't you?
/



Praetor, how many dimensions have I conquered?


Nearly all of them, my lord.


NEARLY all, except one.

Guess your domain isn't grammar, huh?


Look at that planet. Do you know what it's called? Earth. EARTH! Why, they haven't even discovered that other dimensions exist yet! Can you imagine a planet so primitive?


Lord Dominion! Who is that?
His name is Clubber Johnson. He sits on death row, awaiting execution for a triple murder. Do you know WHY he killed? For a twenty-dollar watch and some costume jewelry. Such small imaginations.
Parenting tip: do not name your child 'Clubber'


What if we were not to destroy this planet Earth?


You cannot be serious, my lord! That puny planet is the only thing that lies between you and utter control of the universe!

The universe contains all dimensions. Good to know.

And the lynchpin to the whole shebang of all reality is Earth, home of Jesus Christ


You have little imagination, lackey. I intend Earth to be destroyed...but it would amuse me if it were to destroy itself.
But how can a planet destroy itself?


We shall give them the power of Energy X.


MY LORD! Have you gone mad?! Give the Earthlings our secret weapon?
Not all the Earthlings, you fool! Seek out the greediest, basest, and most corrupt of their number. To THESE wretches we shall give power beyond their imagination. Make them stronger, smarter, and better than their fellow man.


Earthling has killed Earthling since the dawn of time. Energy X will simply allow them to finish the job.


They will destroy themselves utterly! I will put our scientists to work immediately!


But the warlord and his second-in-command were unaware that their conversation had been overheard. For in the darkness of the imperial chamber...





...there was a spy.

If the warlord destroys Earth, there shall be no dimensions

Planets. :colbert:

left to stand up to his merciless regime. I must not allow it to happen. But how?


He has an entire battle fleet, and I, THE MENTOR, alone dare oppose his dark plans.


That's it! What if I were to steal the Energy X? I could travel to Earth and find worthy men and women to endow with its power. They could stand up to the monstrosities Lord Dominion intends to create.
welp I'm sure that plan is about to get going but so far you just got a paranoid old man who clutched at a glowing symbol of nationalism in his death throes


All I need is a spaceship...AND COURAGE!

:allears:


My starships prepare to cross the dimensional barrier itself to bring their deadly cargo to Earth.
Your scheme is perfect, my lord! Nothing can stand in its way!


The entire supply of Energy X is aboard this freighter. Mustn't let myself be seen...
:cthulhu:: Hey! Who's there?


That should really say "Vrang!".


My lord! Somebody is hijacking the ship!

Ahaha you guys don't even have an enslaved warrior race? Terrible Dominioning going on here.
/



Scramble the fleet! Stop him with your very lives! I'll have his corpse...OR YOURS.







The Mentor's ship speeds away from the home planet, through the dimensional gate! Hot on its heels is a fleet of the Domain's starships, firing all the while!


I've taken severe damage...I just need to get to Earth. They dare not follow me there and reveal their secret plot!

Okay, this is bullshit of the highest order. Lord Dominion planned to send his entire battle fleet to escort the Energy X shipment to Earth, so why this sudden and supposed pragmatism on the part of the Domain?

It makes more sense if you think of MentorSmoothpate Badideas as the Domain-equivalent of an idiot redneck


At the last second, a lucky shot hits the rear stabilizer of the Mentor's ship!


It breaks apart over the Patriot City area, and he is forced to eject.





Canisters of Energy X land all across the thriving metropolis.


At this point the music from the main menu started playing, which is a thing that should definitely not happen. :psyduck:


Uh- hello? Pretty sure it's explained pretty solidly by the whole souls of bygone patriots thing, buddy.

But we have to wait until it's activated- by which time it could be too late!

:frogsiren:

We shall not have to wait long, I fear...


Observe the awesome power of Energy X!

Mentor, you are the most fantastic douche.

You're making a believer out of me, space man. To action!























Aaaand I've just remembered that I got to level up BEFORE the cutscene, not after it. So instead of reformatting this bugger, let's just take a little trip back in time.


This is actually outright false if you got the XP canister in the second mission, as Minuteman does have enough to level up. Anyway, let's take a look at Mentor.


Eesh, Mentor's stats kinda blow. Strength contributes to melee attacks and your capability to lift things, Speed determines how fast you move, Agility how often you dodge, Endurance your hit points, and Energy your total stamina pool and regen.


Attributes are basically just perks that heroes get, and we can mouse over them to see their effects. Mentor starts out with Disciplined, which gives him resistance to a few status effects as well as the Mental damage type.



We could buy Mentor another resistance skill if we had the CP, but we don't. Over to Minuteman, then!


I'm not sure when we'll have to deal with mental attacks, but we might as well buy Disciplined now. Why?


To pave the way for the next attribute, of course! You can only ever see the next attribute available, so purchasing them is a bit necessary if you want to plan ahead. You can always buy it and delete it right away, but we're keeping this one.


Heroic confers an extra hero point but costs 750 CP, which is too rich for our blood, so I decided to pour some points into Strike For Freedom. It's now got a magnitude of 26, putting the initial impact on par with Smash, at least for now.

Aw hell yeah, by the time we're done, the commies won't even need a space program what with all the Ivans we'll be putting in orbit

The only thing we could afford now is to level National Guard, and since that would literally do nothing, we're just going to squirrel away the rest of our points.


Anyway, time for the mission.


Sup empty character slot how's it goin'.


Click for Soundtrack
Click for Cutscene

Allow me to break the ice!
"So hey there gate, crazy weather we're having, right?"




Stars and bars! The whole park is frozen over!

As is only now evident, apparently.

hahaha waitwaitwait, 'Stars and Bars'? As in first official flag of the Confederate States of America Stars and Bars?! I mean I kinda figured old Frank Stiles for a conservative, but holy poo poo

Hmmm...Sukhov bore the mark of Energy X...perhaps the liquid nitrogen...we'd best neutralize this threat.



Whuh-oh.
looks like the Soviets are recruiting from downtown hipster bars


Time to make these commies see red!


They'll be busy for a while. Reapply rage as necessary to keep the infighting going...



...and send in Minuteman to clean up.


Thank you game, that is very correct.


Yes game thank you.
well some of us weren't born with your encyclopedic knowledge of Freedom Force, confused by this senseless and arcane knowledge until 2002 when it all clicked together


So let's rescue this dude.


a little heavy on the eyeshadow there, dude
The boathouse, huh? We'll see to that in a minute.


Right now, though, we have a pressing secondary objective to the north.



We got this.


The cop here goes Panicked, which is basically your bog-standard fear effect.


Cortical Suppression sets 'em up...


I gotta express my love for MM's windup poses



...giving our heroes plenty of time to knock 'em down. :clint:


The lady and the cop just offer generic thanks, so let's check out the boathouse.


Approaching it triggers some amusing dialog.


You know what dudes with guns call for by now.


And oh yeah, they can do that too. Frozen characters can't act until they thaw out, but they can't be damaged either. It's a pain.


Time for Minuteman to dispense some pain.


dammit
well it wouldn't be the first time a goon was disappointed with the outcome of a hot dog venture


Well, your communist pal is right there, so have some rage.


Good. Now that he's preoccupied...



:byewhore:


And as for you-


That's okay, I can wait. Let's just twiddle our thumbs for a bit.


Now you're gonna get it.





:argh:


Whatever, I still smash him. And hey, thank goodness for that energy stamina power canister!


More commies, more combat.


Let's have Mentor blank this last guy just to be safe.



Or that.


Nothing we can't fix with the Staff of Patriotism.




And these guys give us enough breadcrumbs for a chicken dinner.




After mining another mook deposit clean (and partaking of a health canister), we stumble upon some thugs with amusing dialog, who we then knock out with extreme prejudice.


Of note is one of the enraged thugs turning on a trash can. I've never seen that happen before. :haw:
whatever, MinuteMan was doing that before it was cool


We'll just be taking this car with us!






Communists: not known for their situational awareness.


Geez. You're welcome, lady.
I dunno when there are some dudes running around freezing people and other dudes huckin' cars around, that's a pretty reasonable question


It's still good!






See? Also, note the red damage bubble, indicating someone has been hit with their weakness. In this case, it's fire damage from the exploding car.



Here we have an Ice Warrior whose gun backfires, freezing him. He actually dies upon unfreezing, oddly enough.
if only he had bought American, then he could have murdered our heroes


Ice woman, eh? Well, let's get moving.


...oh. Or she can come to us. That works too.
y'know, it's just adorable when trust-fund bohemians turn communist

I can't hit a woman...!
Good, dahlink...as I vill happily hit you!


So as to preserve your immersion, Mentor will be taking on the Ice Queen while Minuteman beats that Ice Trooper to death.
MentorIncel Creepystare is actually trying to flirt here but it goes horribly wrong


All right, time to interrogate her.


We seek information regarding your master!
Running dogs, your death awaits you at the pumphouse! Prepare for your doom, materialistic fools! Prepare for...NUCLEAR WINTER!


Minuteman: not gonna hit a lady but totally going to leave one alone and unconscious in a frozen park
Dude, he can't help her. That's practically amnesty.
right, right, I momentarily forgot that our hero is a frothing dittohead FReeper

Next time on Freedom Force, our heroes walk right into a trap.

Scaly Haylie fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Jun 1, 2014

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
Huh. Freezing actually makes you invulnerable?

Rabidredneck
Oct 30, 2010

Not pleasant when angered.
Most attributes are passive bonuses like extra resistances or revives. Some characters can pick up attributes that can almost completely change their gameplay, like unlocking new movement modes. There's a couple characters we'll meet later on that will really benefit from going that deep into their attribute list, even though that gets expensive really fast.

Loxbourne
Apr 6, 2011

Tomorrow, doom!
But now, tea.
One of my few criticisms of Freedom Force is that the game is rather niggardly with the prestige. You can only really keep one squad of A-listers fully levelled up at any one time. Heaven forbid you toss in a custom hero - that'll mean serious shortfalls elsewhere in the lineup.

The idea very much seems to be that the player picks some heroes they like, and then forgets about the rest. We'll get a steady stream of "show off the new hero" missions, but it takes thousands of prestige to get them up to the level our first four will be by then.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
Okay, so I feel I need to ask here: in either this or the next mission (maybe two, I don't remember the pacing), one of the civilians will tell you about an experience canister hidden in a trashcan. I remember taking hours of going through the map with a fine teethed comb to no avail - has anyone actually managed to find the thing or did the devs just forget to put it in?

I also maintain that "running dogs" is one of the best insults ever voiced.

Rabidredneck
Oct 30, 2010

Not pleasant when angered.

anilEhilated posted:

Okay, so I feel I need to ask here: in either this or the next mission (maybe two, I don't remember the pacing), one of the civilians will tell you about an experience canister hidden in a trashcan. I remember taking hours of going through the map with a fine teethed comb to no avail - has anyone actually managed to find the thing or did the devs just forget to put it in?

I also maintain that "running dogs" is one of the best insults ever voiced.

I have found it, it took me awhile though. I believe it is close to the civvie's position, I can't be sure. Been a long time since I've played this.

sulovilen
May 6, 2013

anilEhilated posted:

Okay, so I feel I need to ask here: in either this or the next mission (maybe two, I don't remember the pacing), one of the civilians will tell you about an experience canister hidden in a trashcan. I remember taking hours of going through the map with a fine teethed comb to no avail - has anyone actually managed to find the thing or did the devs just forget to put it in?

I also maintain that "running dogs" is one of the best insults ever voiced.

Yeah, it's the trashcan next to the civ - IIRC you need to break it instead of just picking it up. The OCD part of me has to look in every nook and cranny for missable stuff, my soul dies a little if I complete a game without 100 % it.

Scaly Haylie
Dec 25, 2004

anilEhilated posted:

Okay, so I feel I need to ask here: in either this or the next mission (maybe two, I don't remember the pacing), one of the civilians will tell you about an experience canister hidden in a trashcan. I remember taking hours of going through the map with a fine teethed comb to no avail - has anyone actually managed to find the thing or did the devs just forget to put it in?

It's there, but I think the placement is random and, if I recall correctly, doesn't show up until you have the quest flag. I've never had to destroy the trashcans myself, but we'll cross that bridge when Christmas Present comes to it.

That's enough on the topic for now.

Scaly Haylie
Dec 25, 2004

Christmas Present has been bethump'd with real life obligations, so the next update is unfortunately going to take longer than anticipated. Hang tight, everyone!

Holepunchio
May 31, 2011
Good thing Freedom Force was there to teach those vandals about respecting other people's property. That citizen's car might've...


...oh.

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!
I absolutely loved Freedom Force, I never got tired of making enemies fly away, I literally broke a couple of stages by using knockback attacks to send enemies I had to kill flying out-of-bounds or into unreachable locations without killing them, leaving me unable to ever actually finish them off.

Scaly Haylie
Dec 25, 2004

Hello, Freedom Fans! I've been mulling over just how to best cover the various custom campaign mods, which come in varying levels of length and quality, and have come to the conclusion that occasional marathon streams would be the best way to handle them, so you can look forward to that!

On a related note, the official editor for the game is still available for download. Do with this information what you will.

PurpleXVI posted:

I absolutely loved Freedom Force, I never got tired of making enemies fly away, I literally broke a couple of stages by using knockback attacks to send enemies I had to kill flying out-of-bounds or into unreachable locations without killing them, leaving me unable to ever actually finish them off.

I've actually seen cars drive around other cars outside the boundaries of the map myself, so I'm not surprised.

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



Hey everyone, just checking in to ensure that my ardor for FREEDOM hasn't waned; just that a combination of more hours at work, nice weather, and Tropico 5 has made it a bit more difficult to get into the habit of doing these. The communist plot to bring down the forums once and for all didn't help, either.

Expect an update over the weekend, though!

JamieTheD
Nov 4, 2011

LPer, Reviewer, Mad Welshman

(Yes, that's a self portrait)
Looking forward to the harebrained (and awesome) plots I know are coming, guys!

Scaly Haylie
Dec 25, 2004

Christmas Present posted:

Hey everyone, just checking in to ensure that my ardor for FREEDOM hasn't waned; just that a combination of more hours at work, nice weather, and Tropico 5 has made it a bit more difficult to get into the habit of doing these. The communist plot to bring down the forums once and for all didn't help, either.

Expect an update over the weekend, though!

You better stop blowing off updates to play Tropico 5 and start blowing off updates to play Payday 2 with me. :colbert:

Sneaky Fast
Apr 24, 2013

Yo what's the haps? Is this canceled like MTV raps?


seriously awesome LP so far

Scaly Haylie
Dec 25, 2004

Sneaky Fast posted:

Yo what's the haps? Is this canceled like MTV raps?

We're still doing this thing, but me and Christmas Present are sometimes the worst at time management, and Christmas Present has been busy having a part-time job, a broken car, and various other poo poo to do. Things look to be settling down on his end, though, and we're working on getting something out.

Ilanin
May 31, 2009

Smarter than the average Blair.
Since the last update, I have gone to visit my parents for one of their birthdays, hunted out my old copy of Freedom Force while I was there, installed it, got it working, and am now like two supervillains on from Nuclear Winter. I guess you can view this post as congratulations for getting somebody who'd given up on the game at a horrendous mission you're just approaching to give it another go...

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



To be fair, I said 'the weekend', not which weekend

Scaly Haylie
Dec 25, 2004

Speaking of the weekend, me and Christmas Present are going to be doing a thing round about then! I believe I've mentioned it before, but seeing as there are so many varied and horrible Freedom Force mod campaigns out there, at about 4 or 5pm central this Friday we'll be having a streaming, steaming cavalcade of unofficial content on display for y'all.

Be there and watch us suffer probably!

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Scaly Haylie
Dec 25, 2004

Welp, I'm just going to officially declare this project dead. The collaborative-LP thing was a nice idea, but it wasn't meant to be.

I'll probably be doing this again some time as a solo venture. Just...later.

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